User talk:Divadwg

Hi Divadwg - I can appreciate your viewpoint. The reference was gratuitous, and not germane to the topic of Pinterest. Wists did not inspire, inform, or geminate Pinterest.

I totally understand the pride of foundership. But in this case, for Wikipedia, it is not includable.

Mcenedella (talk) 04:25, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Divadwg (talk · contribs) -- I received your comment on my talk page. I'll point out that Wikipedia's Wikipedia:Etiquette practices discourage personal attacks, and asks that editors "recognize your own biases, and keep them in check"." If you have substantive third-party attested facts as to the Founders of Pinterest consciously basing Pinterest on your prior work, please share them. Comments such as yours on my talk page -- "if you bothered to read up on the history of this stuff, which you clearly haven't" -- are unproductive. Mcenedella (talk)(contribs) 13:20, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mcenedella 'Wists did not inspire, inform, or geminate Pinterest.' How do you substantiate that claim?

Hi Divadwg (talk · contribs) -- First off, we can't disprove negatives. So, for example, it can't be proven that Gilligan's Island did not inspire Pinterest. The burden of proof is a positive one -- you'll need to show the evidence that exists, from third parties, that Wists was the specific inspiration behind Pinterest in order to claim such. Internet research yields no indication that the Founders took their inspiration from your prior company, but does yield several examples of independent, or fortuitous, inspiration, such as: "An Idea That Stuck".

In any event, the compromise reached with CatCotton, another user, was to move the Wists reference to the Business section with this sentence: "Although the founders of Pinterest have not cited any specific influences, a number of companies preceded Pinterest in the development of visual bookmarking, including Yelp co-founder David Galbraith's invention of Wists in 2005." Which is, too my tastes, worded too neutrally -- I think the evidence suggests specifically that Wists was not an inspiration -- but that does work in the mention of Wists and its precedence. I think this implies more than the facts bear, but I'm open to reading your facts about the specific circumstances of Pinterest's genesis. Mcenedella (talk)(contribs) 13:48, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mcenedella Re: "it can't be proven that Gilligan's Island did not inspire Pinterest" Exactly my point, your statement was an absolute, claiming that something was true that can't be proven.   Re CatCotton post: "Although the founders of Pinterest have not cited any specific influences" that qualifier seems unnecessary, since of course they wouldn't. that is like saying, although the Google founders don't site any specific influences to suggest that they might have invented search engines.