User talk:Diogenes1066

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! Ecphora (talk) 11:43, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jamaica 1956-58 £1 chocolate and violet

I revised your article on the unissued Jamaican stamp to make it conform more to Wikipedia form and to be consistent with other Philatelic articles. You might review the edits to see what I did. If you are interested in working on philatelic articles you might check out the WikiProject Philately Welcome. Ecphora (talk) 11:43, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image help

Hi, I saw your message on User talk:Ecphora, and I thought I'd offer a little advice. Firstly, the {{helpme}} template is normally for your own talk page, to draw in an outside user (that's why I'm answering). If you want a specific user's help, just ask them on their talk page. Now, in answer to your question, most of the images on Wikipedia are freely licensed or in the public domain. This could be because they have been taken by Wikipedians and released (for instance, I recently took and released this image) or because they are from a free image resource- for instance, some images on Flickr are free (those released under a Creative Commons license that allows both commercial use and derivative works). Many images are in the public domain because of age- this can depend on a great number of things, but, for instance, Mona Lisa is now in the public domain, and so can be freely used. I'm afraid that we are not able to simply assume images are free- instead, we need evidence. Some images on Wikipedia are not free, but may still be used within the very strict confines of our non-free content criteria (see our non-free content guidelines for some examples of how these are usually applied). This is the reason you are able to use the image in Jamaica 1956-58 £1 chocolate and violet. Which images were you looking at in particular? There are too many considerations to go over in a single post, but I'm happy to explain specific cases. (Feel free to reply on my talk page.) J Milburn (talk) 13:36, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The abolition of slavery stamp, if it was publicly distributed at all, can be considered public domain and tagged with {{PD-US}}. The same probably applies to the other. If an image was published before 1923, it can be considered PD as far as Wikipedia is concerned. J Milburn (talk) 13:57, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are really several questions here.

First, when can stamp images be uploaded to Wikipedia or to Wikimedia Commons?

Wikimedia Commons, or “Commons”, is a location for images that are public domain world-wide. To upload a stamp image there, you must be certain that it is PD world-wide. A list of countries with their different rules is found at commons:Commons:Stamps/Public domain Some general pointers:

1. United States stamps pre 1978 are PD world-wide.
2 British Commonwealth stamps are generally PD 50 years after issuance.
3. For others, it gets more complicated. See the Commons discussion. Sometimes, 70 years after issuance is ok; sometimes it’s 70 years after the death of the artist who created the stamp which is usually hard to impossible to find out.

In figuring out whether a stamp is PD world-wide, it’s also helpful to look at the commons PD license page.

If a stamp image is not PD world-wide, you can’t upload it to Wikimedia Commons, but you may be able to use it on Wikipedia (which is located in the United States and it is understood US copyright law applies) . For example, stamps printed before 1923 are PD in the US. For help with this, consult the PD tags at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Public domain#General, several of which specifically reference stamps.

It is also possible to use stamps on Wikipedia (but not Commons) under fair use principles. It is generally accepted that the use of a stamp image to illustrate a philatelic article discussing the stamp itself can be fair use. (It is not generally acceptable fair use to use a stamp to illustrate an article about someone illustrated on the stamp.) To up load a fair use stamp, you must describe the fair use rationale and you must have an article where the stamp is used. See discussion fair use and look at the explanations on the image page of some stamp images used in philatelic articles. (Although I uploaded the Jamaica stamp as fair use, on second thought, I think it might be PD world-wide under the 50 year rule for British Commonwealth. If so, it can later be moved to Commons.)

Second, where can you locate stamp images to upload?

This is less a problem. You can make a scan yourself if you have the stamp or you can generally copy the stamp from the web if you can find it. If you will use it as fair use, you must make certain it is in low resolution before posting.

One source is Europeanstamps for European stamps; the file size is not too big but the quality is quite good and they are all mint stamps.

Hope this helps. Ecphora (talk) 14:46, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Jamaica 1sh inverted-frame error s.jpg

I might have misled you by treating the tobacco stamp as fair use, but this one is definitely PD world-wide, as it was issued by a British Commonwealth entity more than 50 years ago. It can be transferred to Commons. Ecphora (talk) 15:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image copyright

Actually the three Jamaica images would have been covered by crown copyright that expires after 50 years per commons:Commons:Stamps/Public domain templates. So a fair use rationale is completely unnecessary as they are int public domain. Later on I will reupload them to the commons so they are available to everyone, on all wikis, and then substitute the new image for these which can then be deleted by an admin. BTW the images uploaded are not the largest available on either site. I will use the largest image I can find. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 17:53, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File source problem with File:Jamaica human rights stamps.jpg

File Copyright problem

Thanks for uploading File:Jamaica human rights stamps.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged.

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October 2009

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary, as you forgot on your recent edit to Jamaica 1sh inverted-frame error. Thank you. Just a friendly reminder that helps us know what you did without having to always review the actual edit. Also mark your edits as minor, if what you change does not affect the end result, such as a small spelling or grammer correction. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 18:00, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Verify your data

Where did you get the figures from that you used in this edit to Jamaica 1sh inverted-frame error? We prefer to have verification using WP:RS. Can you please add this information? Thanks ww2censor (talk) 13:33, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing that out. The information was taken from the 2010 SG catalogue and the Postal Corporation of Jamaica web site. As a result the sources/ references are not new. Diogenes1066 (talk) 20:05, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I like to keep discussion together, so am moving this back here. You must have missed the two notices about keeping discussions in one place. Anyway, despite the reference not being new, one should place reference anywhere that confirms data that might be questioned, so I have added the jamaica post reference to the quantity and value but the Stanley Gibbone reference is basically useless. If you are referencing a book, please give the complete details including page number, publisher and isbn. Just referencing the wiki page for Stanley Gibbons does not help anyone verify the data if they want to look it up because they have no clue which volume, which year, which page, etc., so perhaps you can do that. It is suggested you use the citation templates, which you will find at WP:CIT that contain many fields and format the data entered properly. A good example of this is the Scott catalogue reference used in Pagsanjan Falls stamp as an ideal. Hope that helps because we do not like to be criticised for being an unreliable encyclopaedia and providing reliable sources that verify what we write is one way to do that. Please continue adding philatelic material as we need more. Would you be able to write the Jamaica Post article? This is missing and Postage stamps and postal history of Jamaica could certainly do with a clean up and references too. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 21:32, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

License tagging for File:KC logo.jpg

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Orphaned non-free image File:KC logo.jpg

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