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Welcome!

Hello, Dewelar! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing!  Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 08:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC) Getting started A tutorial • Our five pillars • Getting mentored How to: edit a page • upload and use images Getting help Frequently asked questions • Tips Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and guidelines Neutral point of view • No original research Verifiability • Reliable sources • Citing sources What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Policy for non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The community Build consensus • Resolve disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community Portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Writing articles Be bold in editing • Develop an article The perfect article • Manual of style Stubs • Categories • Disambiguation Pages needing attention • Peer review Miscellaneous User name • User pages • Talk pages Clean up: General - Spam - Vandalism Join a WikiProject • Translation Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

Updates to Dan Fogelberg

Thank you for your recent additions to Dan Fogelberg. I noticed a couple of the songs you added had chart positions that were in the 41-100 range. I added the original chart but my information source only included songs that made it to the Top 40, and it's quite possible he had other songs released before 1985 that made it to the Hot 100 but never made it as high as the Top 40. If you have information on these songs and could add them, it would be great addition to the article. (Also, he did a cover of Rhythm of the Rain somewhere around 1990 that got enough airplay that I'd be surprised if it didn't chart.) --Mwalimu59 (talk) 00:41, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Fixed references section to wiki guidelines

Howdy,

You said: "Fixed references section to wiki guidelines"

According to these "Wiki guidelines":

This is not how you format a reference.

<ref>http://www.allearsnet.com/tp/ep/okilter.htm All Ears Net's Off Kilter Page</ref>,

Also:

Place <:references/> or {{reflist}} in an otherwise empty "Notes" or "References" section near the end of the article—the list of notes will be automatically generated here.

Ref tags and punctuation

Material may be referenced mid-sentence, but footnotes are usually placed at the end of a sentence or paragraph. Footnotes at the end of a sentence or phrase are normally placed immediately after the punctuation, except for dashes, as recommended by the Chicago Manual of Style and other style guides.[3][4] Some editors prefer the in-house style of journals such as Nature, which place references before punctuation. If an article has evolved using predominantly one style of ref tag placement, the whole article should conform to that style unless there is a consensus to change it.

Recommended section names to use for footnotes in Wikipedia are:

   * ==Notes==
   * ==Footnotes==
   * ==References==

So, changing "References" to "Notes" and {{reflist}} to <references/> is NOT "Fixing references section to wiki guidelines". It is just make work and it is not accurate for what you are doing.

Please read: Wikipedia:Citing sources before spouting "Wiki guidelines".

Thanks,

IP4240207xx (talk) 07:14, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Gabe Kapler

Good enough, sorry to be such a stickler over it. -Phil5329 (talk) 02:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

RE: Bob Ingersoll (baseball)

It is just tagging, you are free to remove them if they're not appropriate any more or even if they weren't when I put them on.

It's just the general way I do things when I patroll new pages, you'd be surprised by the number of pages which start off like the one you have and hten there's no work done on them.

It's not a reflectio on your work to the article it's just how I go through stuff. As I said if I've been too overzealous then feel free to remove them if you're about to add the relevant info BigHairRef | Talk 02:34, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Tables for the List of MLB Players

Thanks for helping complete that. With my workload of late I kept pushing it back and leaving it a mess, glad it looks good now. Wizardman 00:01, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Frank West notability

I'm wondering, how is playing one major league game notable? If Frank hasn't done anything else, I don't think the article is suitable for Wikipedia. RobJ1981 (talk) 07:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Notability guidelines are on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball page. Any player who appeared in a game for MLB is notable.Dewelar (talk) 16:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Jim Tatum

Thanks for your good faith edit trying to correct the Kinston baseball people page link of Jim Tatum to the baseball player of the same name, but it was the Jim Tatum who became a Hall of Fame football coach who was a Kinston Eagle. So the link was already correct. It's there in his bio. Take care. Kinston eagle (talk) 11:52, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Caution

As I've been warned by others, that one guy (you might know who I mean) is a troll who just wants to keep the conversation going. It's an endless loop. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 23:25, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

10-Roger. You're taking a bullet for us. We appreciate it. d:) Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 23:45, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

I notice he made at least 5 entries since saying he was going to quit. But if he doesn't get a response at all, he goes away until someone answers. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 04:14, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

And since no one has engaged him recently, he's stopped editing. All of it, troll-like behavior. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 22:36, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Since our discussion has scrolled off your page, I'll add here...I'm going to guess that now that he's been cornered, in the sense that he appears unable to produce the proof of his earlier discussion, that is why he's disappeared. My guess is that he was hoping to score some kind of symbolic victory by getting his "new wording" in there, because for the life of me I still can't figure out how it's any less ambiguous than the current wording. Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised to see him pop up under a new name in a few weeks/months and start the whole thing over again. As I mentioned on his talk page, I'm sympathetic to the view that the "streak" was 11, but not for the reasons he cited.

Ah, well, back to work! -Dewelar (talk) 23:18, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

My assumptions and conclusions square with yours. He also lied about finding that book in a bookstore, and tried to twist what I had said about it in the first place. Troll, through and through. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 23:22, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:45, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Rollback granted

I have 1 granted rollback rights to your account; the reason for this is that after a review of some of your contributions, I believe I can trust you to use rollback correctly by using it for its intended usage of reverting vandalism, and that you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback and Wikipedia:Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck and thanks. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:29, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Season articles

Hi Dewelar. I just came across some of your edits on some season pages and just wanted to say thanks for helping out. Cheers Maple Leaf (talk) 19:08, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Spaces

no but there is no reason not to have them--Yankees10 03:54, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I dont know, I guess I was just bored--Yankees10 13:41, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

List of MLB players

Hey, seeing as you are pretty active in editing these pages, I'm wondering if you think the current navbar is fine (which will lead to split pages such as W), or if we should make something like this:

List of Major League Baseball players: A - B - C - D - E - F - G - H - I - J - K - L - M - N - O - P - Q - R - S - T - U - V - Wa-Wh - Wi-Wy - X - Y - Z

Where we would probably end up doing the same for S, and anything else that needs to be split. This keeps the navigation all on the bar, so we wouldn't need to lead to a split page. Do you have any opinions? —Borgarde^talk 06:45, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Well it's working fine for it's task right now, which is navigation, we can still navigate the split pages. So maybe we just leave it for now and if it pops up in the future we'll have another look. —Borgarde^talk 08:13, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Infoboxes

I saw you were adding Japanese teams to players infoboxes. If you would when you do that, please put (NPB) after each Japanese team, to show that it is not an MLB team even though it is in an MLB infobox.

Also, I noticed that you were removing the links in the dates (Ex. July 7 to July 7), why? Jackal4 (talk) 22:07, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Jack O'Connor baseball player link

The reference on baseball referernce goes to Tom Gorman.

Fixed, thanks! -Dewelar (talk) 02:45, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

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Bill Laxton

On 27 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bill Laxton, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 23:51, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

October Baseball WikiProject Newsletter

The Baseball WikiProject Newsletter Issue III – October 2008

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving a baby's life... she'll save the baby without even considering how many men are on base!" — Stephen King (The Dark Tower) News and announcements The Baseball Project promoted 13 lists to Featured status in August and 8 more in September. Amazing job! A combined eleven articles were promoted to Good Article status in August and September. Featured content In September, WikiProject Baseball has had the following articles promoted to: Featured Article status: Nashville Sounds Featured List status: List of New York Mets Opening Day starting pitchers, List of Colorado Rockies Opening Day starting pitchers, List of Florida Marlins Opening Day starting pitchers, Nashville Sounds seasons, List of Tampa Bay Rays Opening Day starting pitchers, List of Seattle Mariners Opening Day starting pitchers, List of Boston Red Sox Opening Day starting pitchers, List of Arizona Diamondbacks Opening Day starting pitchers, New York Yankees seasons Good Articles of August and September: All the Way (Eddie Vedder song), Cy Young, Dan Brouthers, Harmon Killebrew, Rickey Henderson, Billy Pierce, Kinston Indians, Three Rivers Stadium, Bill Lange, Calgary Cannons, Hugh Daily, Homer at the Bat This month's newsletter was designed and written by Wizardman, jj137, and Blackngold29. If you would like to contribute to future newsletters, please contact the Baseball WP outreach dept.

News from the diamond The 2008 opening round playoff matchups with be: Boston Red Sox vs. Los Angeles Angels Milwaukee Brewers vs. Philadelphia Phillies Los Angeles Dodgers vs. Chicago Cubs Chicago White Sox vs. Tampa Bay Rays Help to keep the articles of the postseason updated From the Editors We apologize for not sending out our August newsletter, we have tried to cover some events of the month in this issue. The playoffs have started! The Dodgers and Phillies have won their respective Division Series and will face off in the NL Championship Series. Both series in the American League have yet to be finished. Show your support for your favorite teams by keeping up with their season pages!

--  jj137 (talk) 23:58, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For your constant, non-stop contributions to baseball related articles, I award you the Tireless Contributor Barnstar. Congrats!   jj137 (talk) 00:21, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Glad I could give it to you, and nice job on the DYK. Simply how often you show up in my watchlist made me realize how hard at work you've been at those articles. One question though- what exactly does "xact" mean? I've never been able to figure that out. :)   jj137 (talk) 00:36, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Aah, OK. That makes sense now. :)   jj137 (talk) 00:45, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Cleveland Indians

Dude, quit messing with my edits on the Cleveland Indians pages. The website that I am taking my information from is indians.com. You can look at any other Cleveland Indians season pages from 2003 to 2008 and they all look the same! Please quit messing with these!!! Chiefwahoo35 (talk) 18:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

All the other team pages for any other season I've seen all look like the ones I've edited for the Indians season pages. So why do you feel the need to go mess up what I've done??? That's why they look the way they do is because this is the standard look for all team pages.Chiefwahoo35 (talk) 01:25, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

And besides, your player stats sections DO NOT include everyone who appeared in games for the Indians in 2002. So obviously your editing is nowhere near complete or correct.Chiefwahoo35 (talk) 01:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Reply

Just to make it, well, simpler. I first added the stat tables to all of the Reds pages last year, and gradually have been going back and "simplifying" them ever since, when I realized there was no point in having two divisions for batters and three for pitchers. I originally copied the stats tables from User:Soxrock (he "created" them, I think) without really thinking twice about it. Since I have thought about it, I sort of realized all of that. (If you think about it, all batters do the same thing, there's no point dividing it into two random groups; same with the pitchers, except it is two main/separate groups instead of three, starting and relief.)   jj137 (talk) 02:57, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Ah, OK, I like your reasoning. I always thought the stat tables just randomly divided up the players, but I guess not. I'll stop "simplifying" them from now on, but instead try to change it around to how you have it.   jj137 (talk) 03:06, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, yeah. Sorry for the misunderstanding; when I work on the stats tables in the future, I'll be sure to change them around to the tweaked version of the headers.   jj137 (talk) 02:12, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I guess you could put it in a subpage, although either way it would be easy for copying and pasting, I think.   jj137 (talk) 03:14, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Infobox issue

Oh ok, well me and him are going to discuss it, your welcome to join--Yankees10 04:07, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I'll be sure to do that--Yankees10 04:34, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Responding to your comment about infoboxes...

• Hi Dewelar. I know you asked me about whether it's okay to include (NPB) and (KBO) in team lists. I actually can't remember which article I edited which removed them (I thought I had always went to the articles, edited the articles to remove the tags, and then hit the back button before I hit Save Page), but whichever article it was, I removed them under a belief that these were not required anymore. I have yet to see an official word on whether they should be there or not, I'm just basing it on other peoples' edits. I don't know what my stance on the issue really is. I gave Davey Johnson an infobox once and put in NPB next to his Yomiuri Giants stint because the numbers he put up in Tokyo weren't counting to the major league totals. With that logic, it's perfectly fine to include NPB, KBO, or CPBL teams in the article with their respective leagues labelled. However, in the period I spent away from Wikipedia, I've found that this no longer applied. And I am understanding that logic since I'm noticing players like Sadaharu Oh getting the retired player infobox. It would be unnecessary to put (NPB) in front of any team Oh is associated with because all of the teams he is associated with are in the NPB. It would be repetitive in that instance. To be honest, I don't know what you should do here, because I don't know what I would do in that situation. I really wish there were official stances on what should be included in infoboxes so that we didn't have to have this issue. -- Transaspie (talk) 20:57, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Stats

Since I know you update stats on the seasonal pages sometimes, you may find this script I made helpful when updating it.   jj137 (talk) 02:56, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

It's actually quite easy- just go to your monobook page and add {{subst:js|User:Jj137/stats.js}} , and it will import that script for use when you edit a section on seasonal articles. Hope that helps.   jj137 (talk) 02:19, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, forgot to explain that much! Firstly, you need to bypass your cache so that the script will work- it should explain how on the monobook page. Next, I've created the script so that it only appears when you edit a section of a seasonal article; if it works, an extra tab should be added at the top of the page. (Side note: Until I can figure out how to fix it, before you start using the script, remember to remove the |} at the end. You can readd it after you are done adding the stats and ready to save.) I think it is pretty self-explanatory after that; it will ask you for each stat, and you just need to enter the amount and hit enter. It probably will seem pretty confusing at first, so please ask if you can't figure all of that out. Hopefully it wasn't too confusing. :)   jj137 (talk) 03:02, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

OK, I'll try to explain it as best as I can. Firstly, IE has a habit of "not working" when you bypass your cache, so you have a couple of options: 1) Bypass your cache a bunch of times and be patient, hoping it works; 2) Get Firefox :) (just kidding about that one, but I like it a lot more, and JavaScript works much more efficiently for Wikipedia on it). Next, the tab should appear *only* when you edit a section (it doesn't matter what section, but obviously you want it to be the stats section), and something that says "hit" should appear next to the "watch" button when you edit a section. If you can get that far successfully, I think you're in the clear; hopefully it will be worth the effort! :)   jj137 (talk) 02:50, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Ah, that would be it. Instead of adding it to "monobook.js", you would add it here. (Just transfer over the text and bypass your cache again.) Now that I think about it though, since I use the monobook skin, I really don't know how scripts function with the cologne blue skin. If you ask somewhere like Wikipedia talk:Skin, people may be able to give you a satisfactory answer as to how scripts work with that skin. Unfortunately, until then, I'm not sure if I can be of much help.   jj137 (talk) 21:36, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Glad I could help... er... try to help. :)   jj137 (talk) 23:21, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

A friendly salute

I appreciate your hard work in helping create at least a profile for each individual in the List of MLB Players. it's good to see someone else working or consciously choosing to do certain things. Good luck, and keep up the fine effort! MusiCitizen (talk) 14:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Visiting your talk page

Good byplay on inclusive MLB rosters today. In another wrinkle, some users are compiling rosters numerically, rather than alphabetically. The usual convention is for alphabetical lists. Also, are there any particular clubs you are compiling for? I can take some of the ones you are not interested in. Thanks. McGill1974 (talk) 19:49, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

thank you

thanks for merging those two articles! Adam Penale (talk)

2001 Milwaukee Brewers

Hi there. I was adding some more stats and did not realize that you were in the middle of formatting the player stats. I apologize if I messed up what you were doing. Maple Leaf (talk) 23:43, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the info. It's very helpful. Cheers Maple Leaf (talk) 00:07, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

List of Kinston Baseball People

The Jim Tatum you keep linking to on the Kinston people list is not the correct one. Jim Tatum was a catcher on the Kinston Eagles prior to becoming a college football coach. Jim Tatum (baseball) never played for Kinston to my knowledge. If you have information to the contrary, please let me know about it. Kinston eagle (talk) 01:15, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

see [1] Kinston eagle (talk) 01:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Marv Foley

On 20 November, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Marv Foley, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 06:01, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Talkin' Baseball

I took care of the anon you asked IRP to block. The IP is blocked for 48 hours and I semi-protected the article for a month. --GraemeL ^(talk) 00:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Re:Talkin' Baseball

Thanks for letting me know. I see the user has already been re-blocked, so I'll just keep an eye out. ... discospinster _talk 02:52, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Running Man Barnstar
		For your continuous contributions to baseball seasonal articles, I award you The Running Man Barnstar.   Maple Leaf (talk) 15:53, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

List of MLB players

Well... I did not check it inmediately after editing. Was my fault. So, I'm sorry for the inconveniences. Cheers, and keep up the good work! MusiCitizen (talk) 01:38, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

New addition

Please check the new Bob Smiths boxes and let me know if everything is OK. Thanks. MusiCitizen (talk) 02:17, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Tom Mastny

While I agree you are 'technically' correct, then you're going to have to try and do this for EVERY single player that changes teams this offseason, and then go in and make the additions after everyone's first games - which is very unreasonable (and you'd have to fight every single person that attempts to add them until then). In general - when it comes to current MLB players, the best policy is that if they are not under any threat of starting the season in the minors (no options, etc), its fine to put in the new team with (2009-present). If not, then you have to be the one that commits to keeping them out for every single player that is on a new team....

In the case of Mastny, his contract is being sold to Japan because he's going to play there. JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 22:17, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

2009 Philadelphia Phillies season

Thank you for your help! I appreciate it. Ever since my last run-in with this joker, I fear the 3 revert rule because he never stops and then doesn't get in trouble. It's very frustrating. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 17:27, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Your request on Administrator intervention against vandalism

Thanks for making that report. That guy is using an automated tool to quickly switch between several open proxies in order to evade his block. He has been doing this periodically for quite some time. I blocked all the vandals who were harrassing you and I semi-protected your talk page for 6 hours. Cheers, and thanks again! J.delanoy^gabs_adds 19:57, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome :-) It's probably not the end of it, but he unquestionably won't be bugging you again for at least 6 hours. I added your talk page to my watchlist, so if he comes back after the protection expires, I'll protect it again, for 24 hours. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 20:03, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Talkin' Baseball more

Thanks for adding more links. The question now is, how can we get away with having the entire lyric there? I'm assuming it's copyrighted - unless all the linking explanation let us "get away with it." I was also thinking that this song is vaguely like Baseball's version of "American Pie", the difference being it's easy to figure out. Although, maybe to a pop culture / rock music expert, "American Pie" is also easy to figure out. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 06:21, 31 December 2008 (UTC)