User talk:Devilsparkles

July 18, 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. I have noticed that some of your recent genre changes, such as the one you made to The Pretty Reckless, have conflicted with our neutral point of view and verifiability policies. While we invite all users to contribute constructively to Wikipedia, we urge all editors to provide reliable sources for edits made. When others disagree, we recommend you to seek consensus for certain edits. Thank you. HrZ (talk) 14:28, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from changing genres, as you did to The Pretty Reckless, without providing a source and without establishing a consensus on the article's talk page first. Genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive. Thank you. HrZ (talk) 14:57, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Pretty Reckless

Please read WP:OR: "Wikipedia articles must not contain original research. The term "original research" (OR) is used on Wikipedia to refer to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and stories—for which no reliable published source exists." Last.fm genres are not reliable because they are tagged by users, so that cannot be used as a source. Please read WP:RS for what can be used as a reliable source.

Simply because you listen to a song and think it post-grunge isn't enough to include it in the infobox; per WP:V: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true."

Once you have the reliable sources for the genres, start a discussion on the The Pretty Reckless talk page. Making mass changes to genres without first gaining a consensus will see your edits reverted again. If you need any help, feel free to message me. HrZ (talk) 13:15, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, don't make assumptions about me, grunge is one of my favourite movements but that is irrelevant in this matter because you have to follow wikipedia policies when editing articles. Simply naming them as influences doesn't make them post-grunge. Simply because Nirvana is a grunge band and she names them as an influence does not make them grunge/post-grunge (I've heard Lady Gaga name Iron Maiden as an influence, shall we change her genre to heavy metal?). She mentions Oasis shall we add Britpop? No because that would be a tad bit silly.

So, you have to find a a reliable third-party source that labels their music as post-grunge, then start a discussion on the article talk page like I said before. Once this has been done, then there will be little arguement for it's removal in future because it will have been sourced and discussed. Any removal of post-grunge will then be reverted. Ok? But you have to find the proper source(s). See also WP:EDITWARRING, WP:CHALLENGE and WP:BURDEN also. HrZ (talk) 12:28, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, I wouldn't say that is a reliable source. A good place to start is to search album reviews. See the list at WP:ALBUM/REVSIT for those that are considered reliable! HrZ (talk) 11:14, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

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