User talk:Demonsmoke

Notability of Shaun Farr

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Turning Point Reception

Yor example doesn't make sense. The user opinion rating on Metacritic isn't used in reception sections either. Metacritic and Gamerankings are used only for their compilations of reviews, not for any user rating they may have, as that very likely has nothing to do with the quality or gameplay of the game. Take the user rating system of IGN.com: before IGN released their review for Turning Point, with a score of 5.0, the user rating hovered around 8.0 or so. Within 24 hour of the review being published, at least 50 other users submitted thier scores, which brought the user score down to 5.6 (the last time I saw it). This shows that any fan reception is inherently biased either for or against a game, since several people who disliked this game decided to sabotage the rating. Now you may own the game and like it, and that's fine; I have the game myself, and can't understand the low scores from reviewers. However, Wikipedia isn't some kind of video game site for fans to rally under. Fan reception may be acceptable in movie articles (I personally don't edit movie articles, so I don't know for sure), but I know it isn't accepted in video game articles. If you can find a reliable review (not written by a biased fan) of the game with a high rating, then of course it will be added into the article. I'm only following the policies and guidelines of WP here; if fan reception could be added to VG articles, then I would add it. Comandante Talk 18:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some examples of some higher-profile VG articles, none of which have fan reception per policy:

If Turning Point is to ever become a quality article in WP, then it must follow such standards as these. Comandante Talk 18:53, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]