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July 2009

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Could you, please, confirm whether the source (I assume you have it; correct me if I am mistaken, pls) mentions the words "ethnic cleansing". [1] Thank you very much. From my personal experience, WP places a lot of importance on citations, effectively delegating the responsibility for any content to the sources. Dc76\^talk 14:50, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The source refers specifically to the exodus of ethnic Italians. If the ethnic structure of the inhabitants of a territory is overturned by force, then it is ethnic cleansing. Ethnic cleansing does not mean necessarily genocide and certainly I would not use in this case the term "genocide" as I woud do, instead, in the case of Armenians in Anatolia. I would not use the term genocide for Srebrenica, but only massacre in a framework of a policy of ethnic cleansing. This source as well as other Italian sources do mention the words "ethnic cleansing" for the exodus of Italians. Even the President of the Republic of Italy Giorgio Napolitano made use of this term (pulizia etnica) in his official speaches for the day of the memory on 10th February 2007 and on 10th February 2008. However, governments of Croatia and Slovenia dont accept these words. According to these governments, murders of "foibe" and exodus involved as victims of communist guerilla not only ethnic Italians, but also thousands of non-communist ethnic Croatians and Slovenians --Deguef (talk) 18:03, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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propaganda

purtroppo questo sito è utilizzato da gentaglia che vuole fare solo propaganda: conosci i fanatici user:DIREKTOR e user:AlasdairGreen27 che forse sono lo stesso tizio ma queste utenze continuano a far danni. T'invito a controllare foibe massacres e Istrian exodus: potresti annullare questo ennesimo vandalismo del famigerato slavo. Te lo chiedo perchè tu non puoi esser accusato di utenza clone, difatti tale slavo accusa tutti coloro che si oppongono alla sua agenda politica di esser cloni: ha avuto molti blocchi quindi, se insiste a imporre propaganda ultra nazionalista croata, puoi segnalarlo in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents dove è già stato ben descritto numerose volte. Ossequi,--MILAZERO (talk) 10:34, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Italian economists

You said "Other most relevant Italian economists should be added to the list" - that is, the category for Italian economists.

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Good luck. DS (talk) 13:29, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

evidenza

professore carissimo, qui non poche persone vogliono occultare l'evidenza facendo vandalismo ma osano accusare di vandalismo persino chi aggiunge fonti ufficiali del parlamento italiano! Per onestà intellettuale le chiedo di ripristinare tale contributo: l'unione fà la forza! Questo progetto richiede molta pazienza. Alla prossima e auguri di tante belle cose —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.206.126.34 (talk) 14:28, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ho comunicato e denunciato: User talk:Jimbo Wales#Persistent harassment against Italian users; professore, si unisce a noi?--MILAZERO (talk) 15:10, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mi scuso, ma sono poco pratico di Wikipedia. Non conosco i regolamenti. Mi sono accorto che diverse voci alle quali avevo apportato correzioni o arricchimenti hanno poi subito vandalismo. Presumo siano opera di slavi o di loro fiancheggiatori. Strano adirsi, ma le notizie che riguardano la Germania sono più rispettate. Ritengo che la vicenda delle foibe sia stata indubbiamente una pulizia etnica. Sono invece molto pi guardingo nell'uso del termine genocidio di cui oggi anche in sede ONU si abusa. Userei genocidio per gli armeni di Turchia, per gli ebrei e per i tutsi del Ruanda, ma certo non per il Kosovo, per Sebrenica, per Marzabotto, per Katyn o per Fantana Alba. Genocidio a mio avviso significa la pianificazione dello sterminio di un popolo. Attendo istruzioni.--Deguef (talk) 19:40, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

condivido le tue opinioni ma il problema è che certi amministratori sono totalmente ignoranti riguardo le pulizie etniche ordinate da Broz Tito dopo la seconda guerra mondiale quindi mettono al bando tutte le utenze che insistono su tali argomenti: oltre italiani, furono massacrati pure tedeschi e ungheresi. Potresti inserire fonti riguardo la pulizia etnica in foibe massacres e National Memorial Day of the Exiles and Foibe poi vediamo se i soliti idioti vandalizzeranno ancora. Ciao —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.206.126.34 (talk) 11:26, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

un utente croato vandalizza ossessivamente l'articolo riguardante Broz Tito eliminando tutte le fonti che denunciano i crimini del dittatore. Dopo tanti blocchi persevera nella sua agenda politica e di propaganda attaccando particolarmente utenze italiane con la complicità di alcuni amministratori! Il suo tipo di propaganda è ossessivo e distruttivo: rimuove sempre le fonti contro la sua agenda politica; nell'articolo su Broz Tito rimuove ogni riferimento alle foibe e a qualsiasi crimine compiuto dal dèspota slavo:

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Potresti intervenire? Questa persona opera nello stesso modo in tutti gli articoli riguardanti la ex Iugoslavia! Ciao,--Mengardo (talk) 12:47, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ripeto, non sono esperto di Wikipedia e non so come muovermi. Effettivamente ho notato ci sono ingerenze e vandalismi inconcepibili per Wikipedia. Evidentemente o le regole sono troppo lasche o gli amministratori sono di parte. Comunque gli effetti per Wikipedia sono negativi. Ma questo DIREKTOR, che si considera un'autorità, è veramente tale? Deguef

ma davvero hai ancora un dubbio su quell'imbecille?--Mengardo (talk) 06:23, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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