User talk:Debreese

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American Indians in Children's Literature

Do you have citations to support the analysis in the article, e.g. the commentary about the Osage? Unfortunately, the article seems to be in the realm of original research. —C.Fred (talk) 02:55, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Debbie Reese 00:22, 24 June 2006 (UTC)Hello, C. Fred. Was the second person who agreed this article should be deleted objecting for the same reason that you note (commentary about the Osage)?[reply]

In my chapter "Native Americans in Children's Literature" in USING MULTIETHNIC LITERATURE IN THE K-8 CLASSROOM, published in 97 by Christopher Gordon, I note that Laura complains of the smell of the Indians, but I do not elaborate. I will replace the portion of the article about Osage attire/skunk/smell and replace it with broader material that is published, and will note the publication info.

Debbie Reese 12:44, 24 June 2006 (UTC)Re the historical chronology of Native-authored children's stories/books, it is an expansion of an encyclopedia entry I prepared that was published in the Oxford Encyclopedia of Children's Literature, edited by Jack Zipes. I will provide a citation for that in the Wiki article. Please let me know if the citation style in the edited/reposted article is acceptable.[reply]

The Matchlock Gun

Hi, D.B., I removed the following paragraph from the article that you added.

The book has a definite bias that portrays Edward, his family, and all settlers in heroic ways while simultaneously portraying American Indians as brutal less-than-human savages. In this story and others like it, readers do not learn that American Indians were fighting to protect their way of life, to protect their families.

Here is why:

1) Your statement of bias, which I agree with, BTW, is probably true, but it is not a fact, and it is rather your opinion. That violates both NPOV standards and the wikipedia standards agaisnt original research.

2) The story of the frontier is entirely too complex to be discussed as completely black and white (or red and white). It is a fact that Native Americans/Indians were largely wiped out as independent cultures, but it is equally a fact that most Americans whose families are not recent immigrants have at least some Indian blood.

3) Perhaps the reason that readers don't learn such complex truth is that it is first a children's novel, and second, that it was published in 1941

Cheers V. Joe 13:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

University of Illinois Native American House

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