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WikiProject Film December 2011 Newsletter

The December 2011 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. —Peppage (talk | contribs) 22:03, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

cleanup

Hi, did I miss something? How should - say - know what Family Search is? Oh you don't know it? So why did you remove that useful links in the publisher parameter of the cite web template here? mabdul 00:35, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Mabdul. Family Search may be a useful link, but it is an extra unnecessary link in the citation that does not support the article.  If you would like it put back in, I have no problem. DCS (Talk Talk) 05:17, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Mmh, ok, I expressed my concerns not quite clear. I meant: why did you remove all wikilinks in the publisher parameter? They are quite useful (if they were not already linked in the article text/not are doubled and 3, 4, or more times linked (the reason youtube was only linked only one time)). I understand to remove wikilinks like Fidelity, although it would be better to link to Fidelity Investments... (or leaving a {{dn}}) mabdul 12:59, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Ok. I understand your point, perhaps I deleted too hastily because sometimes articles are over linked, and this particular article is starting to look like a very over linked advertisement. :-(  I will put the Family Search link back in.  I try to keep links one to a article at the first occurrence.  You are also correct, I should have linked Fidelity Investments, but with the big overload in AfC, I have tried not to spend too much time on any one article. --DCS (Talk Talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

AfC

Hi Don. Concerning this, that article was not submitted by me. I was merely taking it out of categories. Sorry for the confusion. BOVINEBOY2008 18:24, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Articles for Creation Appeal

Articles for Creation urgently needs your help! Articles for Creation is desperately short of reviewers! We are looking for urgent help, from experienced editors, in reviewing submissions in the pending submissions queue. Currently the are 1026 submissions waiting to be reviewed. Do you have what it takes? Are you familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines? Do you know what Wikipedia is and is not? Do you have a working knowledge of the Manual of Style, particularly article naming conventions? Are you autoconfirmed? Can you review submissions based on their individual merits? If the answer to these questions is yes, then please read the reviewing instructions and donate a little of your time to helping tackle the backlog.

ShareSoc Article

Thanks for reviewing my article about ShareSoc.

I did include references to several independent press reports mentioning ShareSoc, which I hoped would establish notability. Should I say more about the background to those press reports?

ShareSoc is the UK's largest individual shareholder representative organisation, with over 1,500 members. However, that fact cannot yet be independently sourced, which is why I didn't mention it in the article. Should I wait until I can cite a reference to that fact?

Marben100 (talk) 08:20, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Marben100:  My apologies.  I saw the lists, newsletters, etc.  Just stuff from the Society and did not see the news articles.  The two news articles are enough for notability.  You can mention the 1500 members, not everything needs cited, unless questioned.  The other stuff is distracting as I have proved.  Lists don't prove anything.  I'm ready to crash, or I would fix it for you.  If you leave the 2 news articles and any important citation items, leave me a note here, and I will look again and probably approve your article in the morning.  Thanks :- ) DCS 08:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

I have added the number of members, as you suggested. Not quite sure what you mean by "lists". I'd be most grateful if you'd like to make any further improvements. TIA Marben100 (talk) 15:26, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Lists would be WFIC membership list, EuroInvestors membership list, List of newsletters.  If they support and are relevant, then leave them.  I moved the website link to External Links, this is proper.  I think your article is ready for the big time.  However, is this the name you would like to use for the article?  You can change it my moving it to a new name.  You can also add redirect(s) so that another name points to the correct article.  Thanks. :- ) DCS 16:56, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

OK! Lists removed and replaced by relevant external website links. Yes, I would like to keep the article title as I've set it. AIUI, once the article is "live", I can add a redirect page for "ShareSoc", which is what I intend to do. I'm happy for it to go live now, if you are. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marben100 (talk • contribs) 17:30, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Censor

I believe you are intentionally censoring information from the Wikipedia Encyclopedia that is undermining its credibility as a reliable source of public information.

Wikipedia is, first and foremost, an encyclopedia, and as such, its primary goal is to be a fully comprehensive and informative reference work; that is, it does not purposefully omit (i.e. suppress or censor) non-trivial, verifiable, encyclopedically-formatted information on notable subjects.

987Time321 (talk) 15:42, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Exactly my point.  It is public information.  Anything added is personal opinion or original research, see:  WP:NOT.  You may contact an administrator to express you concerns. --:- ) DCS 16:03, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Jeremiah Goodman

This was already declined for spurious reasons a year ago (despite multiple sources, the original decliner just claimed that JG "appears to be a non-notable person"). The submitter has already been gone for a year and seems unlikely to come back to do any more editing. As this version is both better sourced and far older than the other article, it shouldn't just languish in AfC purgatory until the possible and perhaps unlikely return of the submitter.

I have undeclined the article and moved it to article space. It is now at Jeremiah Goodman (artist). I am going to ask an administrator to merge the history of this article with the other one.

This is one of several dubious AfC closures I have seen. I am not talking about yours, which would have been reasonable under the circumstances, assuming this had been a new submission, but about the original one by Ktr101. --Hegvald (talk) 16:10, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

I was concerned after looking at the dates and previous deletion discussions, and not sure how to handle it. The article was found orphaned in 'AfC submissions with missing AfC template' which I and others are attempting to clean out. Thanks for you effort. :- ) DCS 16:14, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

I am not at all sure this is the best way of handling this, but it looks like the newer article probably needs to be deleted rather than merged. It appears to be identical to [1], which is dated two months earlier. That links to and has probably copied its text from [2], which is presumably even older. That would solve the issue, as the other (former AfC) article can then simply be slipped into place under the undisambiguated title. --Hegvald (talk) 16:29, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm with you on this.  Would you care to do the honors? :- ) DCS 16:31, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

I've put a db-copyvio tag on the page. --Hegvald (talk) 16:50, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

New Submission

hi,

i am new in wikipedia and somewhat confused on how to go about things especially in editing the page i submitted. can you help me with it?

thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theihb (talk • contribs) 05:16, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

You did fine.  Your article International Hospital of Bahrain was approved by Kevin Rutherford (talk) at 21:30, 2012 January 17‎ :- ) DCS 05:27, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

hi,

thanks.. i wasn't actually aware of it until you told me here :-) hehehe... anyway, can i still edit the page and add more information? if that article is still subject for approval though, will the changes be visible to other users? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.148.14.118 (talk) 11:50, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

sorry about the earlier message sir... was just ecstatic that my submission was finally approved... as for the other questions, please see above. thanks :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theihb (talk • contribs) 11:53, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

You may continue to edit your article as much as you like.  Your edits will be immediately visible.  All reviewing from now on, will be done by readers.  There is a New Page Patrol WP:NPP that checks pages also, they may have some input.  Please remember to sign your posts with ~~~~.  Enjoy and thanks. :- ) DCS 16:12, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi DCS thanks alot for the help. Really appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theihb (talk • contribs) 07:35, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Fabryan article

Hi, Thank you very much for listing my article. You have made some comments and I have made changes to the article that I feel cover them all now. Can you have a look again please and see if you are satisfied that the quality and other guidelines have now been met? On the question of writing like an advertisement, it is always a tricky area when writing about fashion because it is near-impossible to avoid some descriptive terms that might be read as being promotional. I have read many other comparable entries and feel that I have made this one as neutral as possible by comparison. Many thanks in advance. Dimmo13 (talk) 11:21, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

I know it is very difficult not to be promotional, especially if you are passionate about the subject.  Your article is better, I have removed some templates.  I reordered the last 2 sections.  You may remove template if you feel the requirement has been met.  However, readers may add templates also.  Your article probably has too many citations, such as would be reguired for WP:BLP.  You could site 2 or 3 of the most popular magazines, for example.  Links to other articles and articles linking to your article are good and helpful.  I have fixed your 1st citation.  Most or all of the others should be fixed.  It is not hard using the citation tool in the menu bar at top of editing window.  Don't worry if you break something, you can always repair or undo your edits.  Happy editing. :- ) DCS 16:41, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

AFC: Team Super Awesome Brandon

Just FYI, and I'm sure you didn't see the creator's talk page (User talk:Brandon Banks), but this is the second submission of the article, and the last one was CSDed. This will likely turn into repetitive silliness without some sort of intervention. MSJapan (talk) 17:44, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

I did see it, but the article was orphaned in AfC submissions with missing AfC template.  I had to do something with it, so I moved it to where it belongs and declined it in the hopes that someone like you would be familiar with the situation. :-)  I will SPD it.  Thanks. :- ) DCS 18:01, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

How do you link several footnotes to one reference?

Thanks, it's my first try. I've been removing ibids and Op. Cit.s all over the place now I know I should. I don't suppose you know how to link several footnotes to one reference do you? I found a guide on how to do it when the footnotes are the same but can't find instructions on how to link different footnotes to the same ref. I've tried copying some done by other people but it hasn't worked. :( Keith-264 (talk) 22:38, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Keith,
It's not hard.  Manually or using the Citation tool, assign a name to the first reference so it will look like <ref name=something>Citation Stuff</ref>.  Then the next time you want to use the reference, use the tool with the name or manually <ref name=something />.  Make sure there is a space between the last name character and the '/'.  That's all you need to do the second citation.  They will be listed as a,b,c,d, etc.  :- ) DCS 23:04, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

I got that bit but how do I discriminate between different citations to the same reference eg six citations with different page numbers to the same book?Keith-264 (talk) 23:12, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

I have had the same problem, and I do not think that the Wiki has an easy solution, but I will investigate it.  What I have done was to just copy and paste the ref and change the page numbers.  I know that is not the answer you wanted to here, but I believe that is the solution at this time.  If I discover any short cuts, I will let you know.  :- ) DCS 23:25, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I tried that earlier and managed to lose the reference! There is a way to do it which has something to do with square brackets but I've missed a detail somewhere. I'll keep trying. Thanks again for your help.Keith-264 (talk) 23:34, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks again. Keith-264 (talk) 01:15, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Dr. Mahanambrata Brahmachari

Hello, Dcshank. You have new messages at Ramesh Ramaiah's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Ramesh Ramaiah ^talk 19:09, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry,

I have been tracking down and CSD'ing spam from a user. Your nick must have been attached to something and you got accidentally pulled in.

Sorry again. :- ) DCS 19:20, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey no worries, feel free. thank you for remove the tag.:-) Ramesh Ramaiah ^talk 19:27, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Your review at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/UK OPEN scrabble tournament

Hi I am pretty basic at submitting Articles as you can probably see by my recent posting, how do i prove my facts, there is a Coventry paper article which recently covered the event, I could have posted a link to the absp calendar though the UK Open 2013 will be maybe 3 or 4 weeks before i submit it to the calendar, entry form and contact details will be then available for entrants.

here is a copy of the entry form from the snowball scrabble website.

The 5th UK OPEN Scrabble Tournament Quality Hotel, Birmingham Rd, Allesley, Coventry CV5 9BA Thursday 5th – Sunday 8th January 2012 THE OPEN DIVISION IS INTERNATIONALLY RATED

38 games of Scrabble

We are pleased to present the 5th UK Open Scrabble tournament, a 4 day tournament with a prize fund of over £12,000. There will be an OPEN division which anyone can enter. This will be a 38 game swiss-paired division with a maximum of 3 repeats except last 3 rounds KOTH. The prize fund will be up to £6000 including a first prize of £3000 (subject to minimum of 50 entries in this division). There will be substantial rating prizes+ an additional £500 prize for best performance above rating Operating alongside this will be up to 3 divisions of 20 players each who will play all of the other players in that division in a double round robin, Players with a rating up to a maximum of 159 can enter these divisions. The prize fund for each division will be about £2000 including a first prize of £750 in each division. There will be trophies for 1st 2nd and 3rd places in all divisions. Players will be allocated to divisions STRICTLY by the latest ratings available. All games ABSP rated, Open Division will be 5 point penalty per word challenged, round-robins will be free challenge, both using Collins Tournament and Club Word List. Timers will be set to 25 minutes per person. Players without ABSP rating will be placed at organisers discretion

This hotel is situated near the Junction of A45/A4114- Allesley village. There are 80 rooms within the hotel. Once these have been sold, all further entrants will need to find their own accommodation. The Quality hotel is a modern hotel with free ample parking; all rooms have an en-suite bathroom, hairdryer, trouser press, and tea and coffee facilities. The cost includes: accommodation in a twin or double room, dinner on Thursday through to Saturday, breakfast on Friday through to Sunday, tea and coffee during breaks, plus ratings levy, and prize fund. Sandwiches and bar snacks can be purchased at lunchtimes. A Vegetarian option is always available. Other diets can be catered for if ordered with booking. ENTRIES ARE LIMITED TO 110 (EARLY BOOKING IS ADVISED) Prices are per person Room type ABSP member Non member Non-player 1 person in a twin/double room 315 325 N/a 2 people in a twin/double room 300 310 200 Non resident 195 205 N/a Bed and breakfast (per person) can be provided on Weds.4 January for £45 (1 person in room), or £40 (2 people in room) The non residential price includes dinner on 3 evenings, tea and coffee during breaks, and all Scrabble. There are numerous other hotels, guest houses, Travelodges etc in the area if you are not able to get into the Quality Hotel. (the Coventry Hill Hotel is less than 100 yds away)

A non-transferable deposit of £100 per person is required with the booking. This may be refunded less a £50 administration charge if cancellation takes place before 30 November. After that date refunds less the administration charge will be subject to the room being re-let. The balance is due before 30 November 2011 (post dated cheques acceptable). If you have not had a reply from me within 4 weeks of sending your deposit, please ring me. The organisers reserve the right to refuse entries, to change the playing conditions and prize fund, or to cancel the tournament if we have insufficient bookings by 31 October. Free parking is available at the hotel. The nearest railway station is at Coventry about 4 miles away. A National Express coach service also serves Coventry. Birmingham airport is reasonably close. Directions will be issued with the confirmation of the booking if required. Please send the booking form below to Moreton Scrabble Club, 17,East Ave,Chester Moor,Co.Durham,DH2 3RU.with a cheque for £100 payable to MORETON SCRABBLE CLUB. Also send an sae, or provide email address for confirmation of entry. Any queries please contact Len Moir on 0191 388 0033.

This form may be photocopied if required or further copies are available from above address or the ABSP website. _______________________________________________________________ REMEMBER TO ENCLOSE YOUR CHEQUE FOR THE DEPOSIT AND AN SAE OR PROVIDE EMAIL ADDRESS Person making booking Uk Open 2012 Email Accommodation and playing details (please enter all names and details including your own)

TYPE Tick if required Names of all Person(s) Open (O) Or Round Robin (RR) Division B&B On Sunday Evening YES/NO Enter “NP” for non-players ABSP Membership Number* Can you bring a timer? Y/N Non-resident Single Double Twin

PLEASE INDICATE ANY SPECIAL NEEDS such as diets, ON THE REVERSE of this tear-off portion ABSP Membership: Membership for 2011 is £15 (subject to change at the AGM). If you would like to join, or to receive further information please write to the membership secretary, Anne Ramsay, 8 Glen Clova Place, Kirkcaldy, Fife, KY2 6UL SCRABBLE® is a registered trademark of JW Spear and Sons Limited, Maidenhead SL6 4UB under license from Mattel Europa BV, a subsidiary of Mattel Inc, Mattel 2007

I am sorry for being such a noob. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Len Moir (talk • contribs) 01:56, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Len,

I'm not sure what a noob is, but I'm guessing it's derogatory.  No problem.  There are pages and pages of rules and regulations on the Wiki.  You can start here WP:NOTE and here WP:CITE.  These will probably answer most of the questions you have at this time.  However, in a nutshell, you don't have to prove everything. The reader just needs enough information so that he can verify that what you are saying has a reasonable probability of being true.  We don't require web references, but they are the easiest to check.  When it comes to really heavy duty academic things, there are usually no web references, so we have to use judgement to decide whether the citation is plausible.  If something is important enough, the reader may actually go to the library and find out.  Since your article is not about what we call a BLP(biography of a living person), the requirements are not very strict, but we do need something to point at, and say, "See, it says right there."  I hope I have answered the question I think you are asking.  If I have not, or you have any other questions, contact me any time.  An email link is also on my talk page. If you have or use IRC online help is available 24/7 at #wikipedia-en-help.

Thanks for your effort,
:- ) DCS 02:19, 1 February 2012 (UTC)