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Hi Dan

user: tdmj here can u please make a Whitgiftian userbox. Reply to my talk page


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A robot with teeth.

Heyo, just noticed you around, and decided you seem interesting. I hope you find things nice and addicting. The people around here are usually nice, too, but mind some of the people that can get a bit cranky at times. Leave me a note on my talk page if you want, cos I'm a bored kid waiting to help anybody who wants it, if I can. Anyway, just leaving you a strange robot, cos I feel like it, and hope you have a good day. -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 07:09, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Images of browser windows

In response to your question about the image in the Halfbakery article, I probably just have a bigger screen than the person who made the original screenshot. I was able to get the whole site into one Firefox window. I just used GIMP to crop off the browser controls. You could do it the sticking parts together way, too. At one point I used a Firefox extension that made a screenshot of the entire website without the browser controls and without having to scroll. However, I've forgotten which one it is. If anyone finds it, can you stick it on my talk page?

Cdmarcus 02:11, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Found that extension...

It's called "Screen grab!". You can Grab it :-) here.

The Game

I just lost the game.Sumthingweird 13:09, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Damn you. Now I've lost it too. Daniel 13:11, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Open letter to the "Whitgiftians"

Wikipedia welcomes contributors regardless of age, but it would be nice to see you actually contribute. So far most of you (with the exception of Dbmag9) seem to have been more interested in building and editing each other's userpages. If your interests go mainly in that direction, perhaps your needs would be better served by getting MySpace or LiveJournal accounts? Remember that Wikipedia is not a free host, blog, or webspace provider.

It is OK to have a Wikipedia account without editing (e.g., in order to keep a watchlist or a non-default skin). But to maintain an elaborate userpage without actually contributing to the actual encyclopedic borders on being a waste of project resources. (End of canned text. I can see from your contributions that you really do contribute to the encyclopedia, but I thought you should see what I'm sending to your classmates(?). Perhaps you could help direct their energies in a more constructive direction?) Henning Makholm 21:56, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. I do try to encourage the others here to contribute, but often to no avail. The allure of posting rubbish on other people's userpages seems too great for them, I'm afraid. Daniel () 23:21, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
No sweat. Ultimately you're not responsible for what they do. By the way, I seem to have hit a wrong chord with "classmates", seing how you and Tristram both put it in scare quotes in your responses. As you all are the same age and go to the same school, I speculated that you probably had classes together. Apologies if my attempt (as a non-native speaker) to express this ended up sounding strange or offensive. Henning Makholm 21:17, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
No, no it is fine. To be honest, we don't share any classes, but it was a reasonable assumption. As a non-native speaker your English is wonderful (I wouldn't have thought it foreign in the slightest). I put it in scare quotes for no particular reason, they just seemed appropriate at the time. I'm sure Tristram was anxious to dissassociate himself with me. Daniel () 21:46, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

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"No one can know how we feel if we do not say. We cannot expect to get understanding if we do not ask for it. No one will dispute that sometimes life's issues are too much for one person. It is fair to say that sometimes Wikipedia's problems fall under the same heading. This is a place where you can bring the bruises that can sometimes be got on this project for attention."
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  1. Future meetings are to be held monthly, not fortnightly as before.
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  5. A new Code of Conduct will be drafted by JoanneB and proposed to the Esperanza community.
  6. The NPA reform idea is to be dropped officially.
  7. Charter ammendments are to be discussed in future, not voted on.
  8. The Advisory Council is not going to be proposed to be expanded by the Advisory Council themselves, if others want to propose it, they will listen.
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Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date:
"Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated."
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  1. The next elections: Approval voting as before and, also as before, an previous leadership member can run. Please submit your name for voting in the relevant section of this page. Voting starts on 2006-04-23 and ends on 2006-04-30. There will be three places up for grabs as KnowledgeOfSelf is leaving Wikipedia. Please see the previously linked page for full details.
  2. The Code of Conduct is now ready for extensive discussion! Specific comments should go to the Code of Conduct talk page, discussion of having one at all should be directed to the main Esperanza talk page.
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A plea from the editor...
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userbox alignment

Hi, I got your name off the Esperanza user list. I was wondering if you could he lp me to get my userbox list and 'places ive visited' list onto my userpage, but over to right next to the text like you have. Cheers. --JoeTalk!WorkEspMail 00:34, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

The requested modification has been done. Glad to be able to help a fellow Wikipedian! I hope you don't mind if I copy your idea of having seperate subpages for userboxes. Daniel () 11:52, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for that! I sort of adapted what you'd done to get it how I wanted. Feel free to copy the subpage thing; I probably copied it off someone else originally :P. --JoeTalk!WorkEspMail 15:36, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Daniel! I have separated the film article from the book article, so if you would like to fill out the book article, feel free. Thanks - Her Pegship 00:51, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me. I'm a bit busy at the moment, but I will add stuff gradually. Daniel () 09:05, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
I have added some more structure and an infobox - now just needs some more content input - so over to you - thanks. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:35, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Edit ranking

Yes there is, but I don't at the moment recall where it is. I will hunt around and see if I can find it. Adam 11:30, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Daniel () 11:32, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits -- Longhair 11:49, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Ah I see Longhair has saved me the effort, so thanks to him, and chag sameach to you. Adam 12:36, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you both. Daniel () 12:54, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Old Skool Esperanzial note

Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Whitgift School crest

You scanned the image: do you own the copyright? I think not.

I suggest you remove it before somebody at that school notices and takes this a stage further...

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

The Administrator Coaching program is a program aimed at preparing Wikipedians for Adminship or helping them understand the intricacies of Wikipedia better. Recently, changes have been made to the requirements of coachees. Please review them before requesting this service.
This would be something like the Welcoming Committee, but for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. Some might like suggestions about how to learn vandal patrol, or mentoring on taking an article to featured status, or guidance with a proposal they plan to make at the Village Pump, for example. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins.
The Stressbusters are a subset of Esperanza aiming to investigate the causes of stress. New eyes on the situation are always welcome!
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  1. Posting logs of the Esperanza IRC channel are explicitly banned anywhere. Violation of this rule results in deletion and a ban from the channel.
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  5. Admin Coaching reform is agreed upon.
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Spelling on my userpage

Wow, at least two people have actually read the thing. Thanks :) Quite a while back I did actually make a pretty obvious deliberate mistake to see if anyone would fix it. They didn't, but now I've made some non-deliberate ones people have noticed! Thanks, Petros471 20:15, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. Correcting spelling seems to be the only thing I'm qualified to do here. Daniel () 12:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

A short Esperanzial update

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Celestianpower háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi! Would you consider changing your vote to support C2 instead of E? It also doesn't put "TEST" in big letters through the logo, but makes it very clear that you're on the Test Wikipedia, while still being very elegant -- replacing "The Free Encyclopedia" with "Test Wiki", and in red, too, to make it more obvious. :)Nightstallion (?) 05:57, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I've replied to your message on nl:User talk:NielsF at your meta talk page. NielsFTalk to me.. 11:51, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

August Esperanza Newsletter

Program Feature: To-Do List
The Esperanza To-Do List is a place where you may list any request, big or small, for assistance. If you need help with archiving your usertalk, for example, all you need to do is list it here and somebody will help you out. Likewise, if you need help with some area of editing on Wikipedia, list it here! Again, any matter, trivial or not, can be placed on this page. However, all matters listed on this page must not be of an argumentative nature. You do not need to be a member of Esperanza (or this program) to place or fulfill requests on this page. If you don't have any requests, consider coming by and fulfilling a few! This program has not been very active, but has lots of potential!
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In order to help proposed programs become specific enough to make into full-fledged programs, the In development section of the proposals page has been created. Proposals that are promising, but need to be organized in more detail are listed here. Please take a look at what is there, and help the proposals turn into programs.
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  4. Two small pieces of charter reform will be decided on in a straw poll at Wikipedia talk:Esperanza/Governance. One involves filling the position of any councillors who may leave, the other involves reforming the charter.
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Not quite at your IQ but would still like to be an Ifriend

Love the page my IQ is only 158 but hope you still will associate :)

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What‽ You expect me to associate myself with an individual of mere centiquinquagental intelligence? How could you presume such a thing? Disgraceful. Sure - thanks for asking :). —Daniel (‽) 19:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

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Logo contests

Could you take care of informing the Board of the ongoing three logo contests at meta? It seems they're likely to overlook it the same way they overlooked the Incubator logo vote (despite the fact it was advertised quite clearly in the information thread, Signpost, Wikizine...) Thanks! —Nightstallion (?) 10:55, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Of course- don't assume that I have some special influence with the Board, however - the best I can do is to post it on the foundation-l mailing list. —Daniel (‽) 20:01, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

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Ancient Greek wikisource

Hi Daniel, I noticed that you deleted incubator:Test-ws/grc. Do you know where the Ancient Greek wikisource project can currently be found? I looked at http://grc.wikisource.org/ and at m:Request for new languages/grc but I did not find a link anywhere. Greetings, --la:Usor:UV 06:33, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it has a location at the moment. I deleted it because Wikisource tests should not be placed on Incubator at the moment (Wikisource has its own place for that). Ask at the discussion on Meta, where I'm sure that people will be more informed than me. —Daniel (‽) 09:23, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the info, I followed your advice. Greetings, --la:Usor:UV 22:04, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

More Whitgift Trouble

I think it's time you administer some beatdowns... E. Sn0 =31337= 01:31, 19 September 2006 (UTC) :)

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Nice page

Hi, I'm a long-time user, first time contributor. :) Your page looked very interesting, and I'm extremely bored, and I have Latin homework which I'm avoiding doing, so I said to myself, "Myself, why don't I leave this stranger a comment?" And there was no compelling reason not to, so here it is.--Stercus.caput 03:55, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I know that feeling myself very well. —Daniel (‽) 09:14, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Hi. Do you wear boxers or briefs? Or perhaps boxer-briefs?

LOL!!! E. Sn0 =31337= 00:04, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Actually I'm wearing a thong. E. Sn0 =31337= 19:50, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Um, why are you replying to my messages, E? —Daniel (‽) 19:51, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm simply being silly. Feel free to delete this section. Good day sir :) E. Sn0 =31337= 01:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Fair enough. —Daniel (‽) 09:58, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
I asked Daniel the question.
But why? —Daniel (‽) 20:00, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
How about we put this spam to bed, ok User:200.119.236.81? E. Sn0 =31337= 23:26, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

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About being an administrator

Hi.

The [Pangasinan wikipedia] is now a full pledge wikipedia. I was the main contributor and administrator for the Test-wp/pag, I was wondering how can I become a bureaucrat of the Pangasinan wiki. Thanks.

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I suggest you contact Timichal, as he seems to be helping sort out the newly created languages. He should be able to get you sysoped on the new language quite soon. —Daniel (‽) 21:09, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

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Whitgift School Vandalism

Daniel, (I'm Bhaveer) I have reconsidered my views on the continous vandalising incidents at Whitgift, and now agree with you in your proposal to permanently ban the priveledge of editing for the IP. I shall back you up, and please leave a reply on my user page User:Bhaveer

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Ferdinand II's plaque in Florence

Hello Daniel,

I see that you have both Latin and Hebrew interests. If you can read this inscription, would you like to edit the description of this wiki Commons image? (Image:Firenze-Ferdinando-II-plaque-1116.jpg; just click on the image to get there)

I took the picture in Florence, where this plaque is mounted next to the entry to some kind of institution (Istituto San Salvatore, probably very Catholic), and would love to put it to good use in an appropriate wiki article. But as I don't know either of the two languages involved, I don't know what Duke Ferdinand II (one of Medici rulers of Tuscany), and his Mom the regent, wanted to say there -- though if it was something about the Jews, it is probably nothing good. They sounds really angry in their last sentence :-)

Please just ignore this note if you don't have time.

Thanks in advance. --Vladimir ( Vmenkov 09:09, 4 November 2006 (UTC) )

I tried, but to be honest I don't have the skill in either language to translate it properly for you. I can tell you that the Hebrew is almost certainly a Biblical quote, beginning approximately "In the name of God have mercy". I'll put it up on the Languages Reference Desk to see if anyone there knows, as it seems intriguing. Sorry. —Daniel (‽) 16:30, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I've listed it there now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Language#Perplexing_Plaque . —Daniel (‽) 16:34, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, this is still helpful. Vmenkov 21:03, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

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