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Mr Calton, the reason I deleted the article on your mother was that you did not make any assertion of notability. You didn't say why anyone should care.

She's a lawyer, yes, and I'm sure she's a good one, but... so what? Why should I, or anyone else, care? That's not a rhetorical question. Is there something particularly notable about your mother? (This is one of the reasons that we advise against starting articles about members of one's immediate family: it's so difficult to be objective about whether or not they meet notability criteria.) I look at this content (administrators can view deleted content), and I see... she graduated here, she worked there, she has expertise in this, she's trained in that, and... is that it?

I'm basing this solely on the content you included in the article, David. She founded the "Pro Se Bankruptcy Assistance Project"? Okay, and that's national, or only in Michigan, or purely regional within Michigan? How long has this been around? Is it an influential organization? Have they had any real impact on anything? Are they like the Innocence Projects?

And these honors. She's been listed in "best lawyers in America" two years in a row -- what does that mean? Was she ranked in the top hundred, or the top thirty thousand, or what? And this "Super Lawyers" (or rather, Michigan Super Lawyers) thing -- same question. Ranked as "preeminent" by Martindale, listed a top Detroit lawyer by DBusiness, very nice, but -- I say again-- so what? Is there media coverage of her? Has she been interviewed, are there feature articles on her, do other lawyers refer to "Calton techniques"? The listings can go to support notability, but they're not enough to be an assertion of notability by themselves.

There's over a million lawyers in America, Mr Calton. We can't have an article about each and every one of them. Maybe there is plenty of stuff that your mom did which would go to support notability. But how should I know? You didn't mention any of it.

If you can write a new article about your mother that does show notability -- and I strongly suggest that you read and understand our guidelines on notability before doing so -- then it can stay, and I'll even integrate the old version into the article history. But if you can't, then... well. If you can't show notability, why should there be an article? DS (talk) 14:42, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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May be a relative of Judy Calton, of Honigman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.136.190.159 (talk) 09:54, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]