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Pssst

You around? Got time for a quick (maybe stupid) question? ArielGold 03:54, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stupid questions are my specialty... :p --DarkFalls talk 03:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Okay... I understand copyright stuff, and I realize that you can copy/paste from one article to another when merging or separating info into other sections... but what exactly is the policy of simply copying entire paragraphs from one article to another (without removing them from the original article) word for word? (I can give the examples where I just found this if you want) ArielGold 03:57, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
GFDL states that you have to attribute the place where you got the paragraph from. In general, we don't copy and paste the same article elsewhere though... --DarkFalls talk 03:58, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Linky --DarkFalls talk 04:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, that's what I thought, would you please review these edits, then? 203.3.64.1 editing Gold Coast Shoreline Management Plan, and the material is direct copy/paste from Gold_Coast,_Queensland#Beach_Safety_and_Management, and Seawall#Gold_Coast_Seawall. User's combined (many edits) changes over the past week: [1]. Let me know what you think? (And yeah, I have the GNU thing bookmarked already) ArielGold 04:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A link needs to be provided to the original source, or the text needs to changed so it is no longer GFDL... Otherwise, the text needs to be removed. --DarkFalls talk 04:19, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Which is preferable? And would you handle this one, pretty please? I've never run across something exactly like this, which is really, to me, sort of pointless and redundant, why not just mention something and wiki link to the article's section, instead? lol. ArielGold 04:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well the most preferable is to change the text so it isn't a violation.... but you can just put a small link in for the source... Maybe {{main}} or a footnote to the article it was taken from? --DarkFalls talk 04:26, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, would you take a peek at Gold Coast Shoreline Management Plan now and see if that's okay? And thanks for answering my silly question! ArielGold 04:39, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not silly... Jmlk17 had some worse ones :p The article looks alright now... --DarkFalls talk 04:40, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
ROFL But Jmlk is who I usually go to with my silly questions! ~*Giggle*~ ArielGold 04:41, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No wonder.... If it was me, you would have been a sysop by now. :) --DarkFalls talk 04:42, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
LOL! Sorry I made a mess of your pretty clean page, but as always, you are awesome for answering so quickly and helping me out! ArielGold 04:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. JRG 10:37, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No worries --DarkFalls talk 10:39, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, please remove the sections "Operations and Stations" and "Stopping Patterns". Current consensus (ie. all but JRG) is to remove it, for the reasons given. JRG is throwing around vandal accusations, but so far seems content to leave his argument at "it's this way and intruders are unwelcome." TransitPolice 15:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unless I see suitable consensus here, the version in whichI protected it in will stay. please see m:wrong version. --DarkFalls talk 22:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has a new administrator!

Thanks, Archive October 2007!
Thank you for voicing your opinion in my RfA, which passed today with a unanimous 79/0/0 tally. It feels great to be appreciated, and I will try my best to meet everyone's expectations. If you have any advice or tips, feel free to pass them along, as I am sure that I will need them! Cheers, hmwith talk 21:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you're Rohan, what does that make me?

Arnor? The Shire? Please be telling me. Will (talk) 23:03, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Images on the main page

Hello. The last two times you updated DYK, you did not protect the images used in the updates. When using Commons images on the Main Page, you should upload them from Commons and tag them with {{c-uploaded}}, and preferably protect them (although if you don't, they will automatically be protected with cascading protection when they are put on the Main Page). If this procedure is not done, it is possible for vandals to vandalize the Commons versions of the images and the vandalized versions will appear on the Main Page here. --- RockMFR 01:20, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay... sorry about that. --DarkFalls talk 01:25, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Wow, lotta vandalism to your talk page lately, what's going on? ._. [Tyler] (talk/contribs) 09:48, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not really. It's just a schoolkid playing around on my talk page... Nothing to worry about, maybe I'm just popular with vandals? :) --DarkFalls talk 09:53, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do agree the edits from the registered user are in good faith (even if removing the tags is a little off and it doesn't address the autobiography comment), however to my mind the IP address edits which just delete every tag are getting painful to restore every morning, hence the page protection request. But then this is my first protection request :D --Blowdart 11:08, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Thanks Darkfalls, and others who were involved, for the rapid move of Staveless runes to the main page! I was flattered.--Berig 14:37, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Automatically delivered by COBot 02:02, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sir,

Would you kindly, PLEASE, desist from doing that? I find it very rude. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Connubbialis (talkcontribs) 04:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. What was the account name and I'll see what I can do? --DarkFalls talk 04:38, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to Contact WJBscribe and you deleted my comment. Connubbialis —Preceding unsigned comment added by Connubbialis (talkcontribs) 04:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think he/she was referencing an edit you thought was vandalism. --slakrtalk / 04:42, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well WJBscribe reverted the first one so I thought it was vandalism... --DarkFalls talk 04:43, 3 October 2007 (UTC)r[reply]

Thanks for updating. -- !! ?? 12:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Don't be an accomplice

Give me a break[2]. I can't stand these admins who change their names and then try to obscure any association with their previous contributions. Why do you support this shifty behavior? Admins should show take ownership of all their past actions.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 01:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

...it's their choice, not yours. Please don't recreate the redirect again. --DarkFalls talk 01:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That was sooooooo not the point of the question. I'm not asking for permission to recreate the page; I'm asking why you condone, through your actions, such a blatant evasion of accountability? Do you support the lack of transparency I'm describing?--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 01:59, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Transparency? Navou left Wikipedia because of release of personal information. It has nothing to do with actions he has/hasn't done. --DarkFalls talk 02:04, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, it's like a right to vanish kind of thing.... but aren't you actually supposed to leave the project in order to be entitled to this right? I'm not merely asking this rhetorically, I'm honestly confused by this guideline. In any case, it's a pity that we all must pay the price (namely, confusion & frustration) just because someone didn't safeguard his private info. Forget I even mentioned it.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 02:40, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DarkFalls

Dear DarkFalls please tell me why you change my update of SEUA page in wikipedia ??? I am Graduate of SEUA and i want to improve SEUA article , the old information is change in these years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.67.218.125 (talk) 12:19, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The version of this AfD that you protected is not formatted properly. Would you please re-format it? Thanks, Pablo Talk | Contributions 19:35, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, another admin took care of it. Pablo Talk | Contributions 23:51, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Templates Re:Brett Favre

(Moved from my talk page, didn't know if you were watching it or not)
Please take note that templates should not be used if it is purely in use on the one article. Please see WP:TMP, taking note of "Templates should not masquerade as article content in the main article namespace; instead, place the text directly into the article." --DarkFalls talk 08:57, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing it out, I didn't realize that was a rule until you brought it to my attention. My bad. I was looking for a way to lessen the total size of the article, since the tables almost double the length of the article. Is there anyway to do this, I know sub-pages cannot be used, so I really cannot come up with any other ideas. (You can reply here or at my talk page). Thanks.
Gonzo fan2007 talkcontribs 22:13, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the userpage design!

I want to let you know that I'm going to put the userpage design into my userpage because it looks great as it is! Thanks for helping me design my userpage! I owe you one. PrestonH 15:15, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Would it be possible to find out where this user is located? I don't appericate the comments made in this diff or this diff as they are completely false and completely uncalled for. Since the website in question was operated by me (has since been taken offline) I have had to deal with problems, lies and other crap from whoever this person is on different websites and don't wish to have deal with them here. Personally I would like to press charges (as my email accounts, website accounts, and accounts for other websites were hacked). If possible, could a block also be placed on this user's account for the time being as well? I would appericate it. Take Care....NeutralHomer T:C 06:08, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've final-warned the account for defamatory comments. If e/she does it again, try WP:AIV. Thanks. --DarkFalls talk 06:20, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Okie Dokie, many thanks. I kinda figured this person would follow me to Wikipedia, but was hoping it would take them a little longer. I hope AIV will be able to help me track this person down....cause they are getting just a little annoying. Again, many thanks. Take Care and Enjoy Your Weekend....NeutralHomer T:C 06:43, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pssst

Got a second? I have a username I'd appreciate your opinion on. ArielGold 07:20, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

Very funny, your edit summary gave me a heart attack. Call an ambulance! Dfrg.msc 10:30, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with redirect

Hi, DarkFalls.
I have problems with redirect on the page Jakov Mikalja. I cannot make a redirect from Giacomo Micaglia to Jakov Mikalja.
I tried to do it with the talkpage. Talkpage doesn't have that problem, it redirects without any problem from Talk:Giacomo Micaglia to Talk:Jakov Mikalja.
I tried to uncheck the box (move associated talk page), but still, redirect cannot be made.
Sincerely, Kubura. Kubura 08:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --DarkFalls talk 08:42, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Semiprotection at Barcelona

Somebody's asking at User talk:Luna Santin#Why is the article Barcelona protected? why Barcelona is protected. If I had any involvement, there, it's unfortunately slipped my mind. Protection log shows you as the protecting admin, so I thought I should bring that to your attention for whatever response you figure is appropriate. – Luna Santin (talk) 20:19, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My recent RfA

Thank you for supporting my RfA, which unfortunately didn't succeed. The majority of the opposes stated that I needed more experience in the main namespace and Wikipedia namespace, so that is what I will do. I will go for another RfA in two month's time and I hope you will be able to support me then as well. If you have any other comments for me or wish to be notified when I go for another RfA, please leave them on my talk page. If you wish to nominate me for my next RfA, please wait until it has been two months. Thanks again for participating in my RfA! -- Cobi(t|c|b|cn) 22:36, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

John McCain

I'm curious as to why you put John McCain under WikiProject Aviation... it seems he more appropriately falls under some other categories and that WikiProject Aviation wouldn't include people... as one example, Nobel Prize winner Oliver Smithies is a pilot and says it's his other passion besides science, but I hardly think he would fall into the WikiProject Aviation category.--Gloriamarie 03:28, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh sorry. I was doing some tagging with AWB on articles in Category:Aviators so there was bound to be some mistakes in the scope. As it is, I've removed the WikiProject tag. Feel free to remove any other banners added in which you feel is inappropriate. --DarkFalls talk 08:34, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RFA Thank You Note from Jehochman

Ready to swab the deck!   
Another motley scallawag has joined the crew.
Thanks for your comments at my RFA. Arrrgh!

- - Jehochman Talk 03:44, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You rock! Thanks for your help in protecting, in addition to going above and beyond the request. It really speaks to your character instead of just doing the bare minimum. Peace out! Carter | Talk to me 06:12, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No problems :) --DarkFalls talk 06:13, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User notice: temporary block

You have been blocked

You have been blocked from editing Wikipedia for a period of lemon for screwing with mah userpage, bi-otch. You are free to make constructive edits after the block has expired, but please note that vandalism (including page blanking or addition of random text), spam, deliberate misinformation, privacy violations, personal attacks; and repeated, blatant violations of our neutral point of view policy will not be tolerated. If you wish to contest this block, please do so by placing {{unblock|your reason here}} on your page, and somebody will come by shortly to review this action. ~ Riana 11:49, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nooo... a block message on my talk page? I'll take care to screw up your userpage even more :) --DarkFalls talk 05:50, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Enlighten me, DarkFalls

You have made a series of slight changes to articles I watch recently and I would like to understand them. Some of them look like this and some of them seem to be aimed at eliminating redirects. If you explain the necessity for these, perhaps I could fix them in the future myself. Thanks. Awadewit | talk 06:27, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well I was doing some work for veropedia, which is basically an encyclopedia that saves high-quality articles from Wikipedia. Most of the links I fixed are disambiguations. (Which I altered to links directly to a particular article) The external link I removed, as shown in the diff, was a restricted access website which, although allowed on wikipedia, is not allowed on veropedia. (The change was later undone by myself) Forgive me if the articles you created seem to be specifically targeted, it was merely because those articles are of an exceptional quality. --DarkFalls talk 06:36, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have never heard of veropedia. Interesting idea. (Thanks for the compliment.) Do you really think that you can find experts to review all of those articles? 07:22, 15 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Awadewit (talkcontribs)
Actually I'm much in ignorance about the "expert process" of it... As we only have a small fraction of Wikipedia's articles on veropedia at the moment, I would think it will be possible to review the articles. --DarkFalls talk 07:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps I should be more optimistic. Graduate school dampens the spirit sometimes. Awadewit | talk 07:39, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Your protection of Dobruja

Is your protection of Dobruja (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) still needed? could you recommend a way to solve the dispute? User:Baltaci already created an expansion of the article (requested on talk page) in his userspace (User:Baltaci/Dobruja), but it seems that he abandoned that project after the page got protected. he and a bulgarian user (uninvolved in the last revert war, but with signifiant contributions to the article) planned to make the article a GAAnonimu 15:08, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done. -DarkFalls talk 21:46, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unprotection request

This is a request for you to unprotect the page: List of characters in Camp Lazlo. You protected the page on September 16th[3] and I think disputes since been settled. Much appreciated. Noahcs 02:11, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Done --DarkFalls talk 05:47, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Jenin

DarkFalls, thanks for dealing with this and apply the protection. Did you happen to look at the 3RR aspects? Do you think the 3RR should be raised separately? Thanks again, HG | Talk 12:19, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Protection should be enough for the moment. --DarkFalls talk 07:04, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Damir Siraciyev deletion

This is a very important thater director, NOTABLE for his work (first Tatar Rock Opera, revolutionary approach to national theatrical patterns). He was disliked by the conservative Tatar elites, suffered a tragic death in mid 1990’s.

See WP:BIO please. If the article satisfies it, source it reliably and recreate. --DarkFalls talk 08:10, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Can you undelete it? that's only a stub. later on it will be filled in in copmlience.

Hi DarkFalls just wanted to check on what was the [{WP:AFD]] all about? Seems like a mistake? The article is a hoax, complete nonsense, thats why I placed the tag. Thanks!--Termer 08:31, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I meant WP:AFD. Unless it's blatantly obvious, CSD does not deal with hoaxes. Although it is probable that it is nonsense, prodding it would be a better idea than speedy deletion. Cheers. --DarkFalls talk 08:34, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, hope that the new tag is more appropriate I've placed up there.--Termer 08:41, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Damir Siraciyev

Damir Siraciyev: please pay attention when deleting: the article had ""hangon" tag. `'Míkka 17:29, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you speedily deleted this article as a non-notable website. However, I think it is possible that there may be sources and notability here. There aren't any notability guidelines for publications that I know of, so its kind of hard to say that its notable or not. Anyways, considering the article has been around for almost 2 years and is wikilinked from like 700 articles or something, I don't think an AFD would have been out of the question, rather than a speedy delete. Thoughts? Wickethewok 17:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • I more than agree with the above comments. When I started seeing red links on multiple articles for Stylus, I searched for the AfD and found there hasn't been one. I believe the site is notable and at the very least notable enough for an AfD. As stated, the number of articles linking into it is pretty great. At any rate, I eagerly await your feelings on the matter. SorryGuy 03:41, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've restored the article but please source it reliably, and sustain notability. --DarkFalls talk 05:25, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

Thank you for participating in my RfA. As you may be aware, it was closed as "no consensus". Since your vote was one of the reasons why it did not succeed, I would like to personally address your concerns so that I can reapply successfully. Your concern was "I am in doubt about your understanding of the blocking and banning process; and furthermore, I feel you are unclear of the distinctions between them."

I am aware of the difference between a WP:BLOCK and a WP:BAN, and I can assure you that I will be correctly using this wikiterminology in the future.

It also seems that I was not clear enough in my RfA that as an administrator, I would have to obey the community's wishes, no matter now much I disagree with them. It would be wrong of me to force my personal opinion on others.

Please let me know if this addresses your concerns. —Remember the dot (talk) 02:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Replied. Thanks for the notice DM... --DarkFalls talk 08:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WelcomeMachine

Given that you thought my first block was for spamming (it was actually under the wrongful belief I was a sockpuppet) I think we can both agree that you didn't really look into the issues very thoroughly. I have posted a response, and would appreciate it if you read it. 124.184.159.215 10:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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