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Indic scripts
D-Boy, you left a comment in WP:PAIN regarding my removing devnagri scripts from Pakistan and Sumer articles. I see no connection between Sanskrit and Indus valley civ. Can you please cite me some sources which say that Sanskrit was either spoken during the IVC days or indicating some connection between the two? Otherwise inserting Sanskrti in articles such as Meluhha will be far fetched and can only lead to ugly editwars such as with Harappa. Thanks Parthi talk/contribs 19:26, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
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Annoying?
You left a comment saying something was annoying. Were you talking about the poll or my comment in general? I thought I needed to clarify my statement "If one goes, all should go". I didn’t want people to think I was pushing to have all emblems deleted from the Hindu Project page. I was the very first person to reply to IZAK on the Judaism page, so this subject is very important. (Ghostexorcist 20:17, 10 January 2007 (UTC))
Just wanted to say hello
It's obvious you oppose my views (and perhaps my presence) in the Hinduism template discussion, but I just wanted to let you know that I am grateful for your presence and your views nonetheless. It takes many voices to reach effective compromise and consensus, and whatever your views may be, I respect your right to express them and will give each comment the consideration it is due. Thanks for providing such an entertaining debate :) -- User:RyanFreisling @ 00:33, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
hindu mythology
Is it the same way as wikiproject saivism? Dead? I've been using books by the Ramakrishna Math in Chennai to write them on hindi wiki but I've come across some incorrect info on Kalayavan and other articles.T*E*H Kingrom 00:47, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Tight but Hindi wiki is a much better place.T*E*H Kingrom 06:35, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Indian template
Hey, I may have missed the discussion which you sometimes talk about referring to some Indian template where the Indian flag was removed or something. Which template was it? Nobleeagle [TALK] [C] 03:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- No...that's stupid...how come the Pakistani flag is allowed but India needs to use the pre thing for all the articles. Can you give me link to where the consensus/compromise was made so that I can go through it. Nobleeagle [TALK] [C] 03:52, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- The Pakistani flag features green, symbolizing Islam, and it also features the crescent, which is found on the flags of many Islamic nations and it also has the five-pointed star symbolizing the pillars of Islam. I have no idea where Islam was when the Indus Valley Civilization was thriving but if India isn't allowed to use it's flag it seems unfair for Pakistan to do so. A physical map of Pakistan symbolizing the region should do alright, but I doubt it'll ever be implemented. Nobleeagle [TALK] [C] 23:45, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
- The Hindu links debate may be over in a month, it may also mean we get rid of our symbols...anyway...after all those years such appeasement may have become a genetic trait amongst Indians or something...D'you think it's worth politely asking at WP:PAK? Nobleeagle [TALK] [C] 03:48, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
- The Pakistani flag features green, symbolizing Islam, and it also features the crescent, which is found on the flags of many Islamic nations and it also has the five-pointed star symbolizing the pillars of Islam. I have no idea where Islam was when the Indus Valley Civilization was thriving but if India isn't allowed to use it's flag it seems unfair for Pakistan to do so. A physical map of Pakistan symbolizing the region should do alright, but I doubt it'll ever be implemented. Nobleeagle [TALK] [C] 23:45, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Ancient Pakistan
I believe you have questioned the validity of Ancient Pakistan before. And I gave you sources, which I thought you ignored, but now I know it. Here I will provide you with them again.
The term Ancient Pakistani is a valid term, as the following encyclopaedic sources. and qualified professors state, and make use of the term.
http://oacistest.library.yale.edu/te...79be5042beb169
http://inic.utexas.edu/asnic/subject...languages.html
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~mharrsc...-insignia.html
Note the sources are Edu.
The first source is of a book (Ancient Pakistan), used by major univerities as a source for the history of the South Asian subcontinent.
The 2nd source is a journal which uses the term Ancient Pakistan
The third source (not the blog) contains the quote of a Doctor using the term Ancient Pakistan in a History of South Asia speech.
http://people.bu.edu/mughal/cv_publications.htm
This reference, also edu source, uses Ancient Pakistan Journal as a reference.
http://dsal.uchicago.edu/reference/s...=193&view=text
This source uses the "ancient pakistan" book as a reference, note how the author refers to the subcontinent as South Asia instead of India.
Unre4LITY 00:03, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- Yes thats like 50% of the "ancient pakistan" google searches listed above.Bakaman 02:53, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
You still going on about those results? Excellent reason to contradict yourself and ignore educational sources. Unre4LITY 12:27, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not ignoring anything. Finding 50 results for an obvious neologism compared to 41700 for a valid term is hardly an argument. The oregon site is a blog still. I have no need to list all of the websites that use the correct term "Ancient India" since that would merely blow the fictional construct of Ancient Pakistan out of the ballpark.Bakaman 15:13, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
You know, I will just give you some advise. Sources are Sources. Dont deny them when you finally get them. And dont use the term "fictional", because a similar comment was used against me to give me a weeks ban. Unre4LITY 17:23, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi,
The above personality did a lot for a lasting solution in the island though he suffered from diabetes, Motor Neurone Disease, a degenerative disease of the nervous system, and possibly medicine-induced bile duct cancer.
Now putting his Bio "Terrorist Tag", I feel unreasonable and removing it, please take necessary action on this.
I have discussed my points at Talk:Anton Balasingham.Rajsingam 09:50, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
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Thankyou
Yes thank you !Intothefire 12:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi!
Just wondering why you are so keen on keeping the images on the welcome template. May you please give one reason. Please respond on my talk page. I'm willing to negotiate in a civil manner. Thanks! Btw, have you noticed the progress we've made on the Hinduism page. Six of us (Abece, Nobleeagle, Priyanath, Saiva, Arjun and myself) plus a few others have done some great work in copyediting and remove redundant information. GizzaChat © 04:19, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Reply
Hi again, I guess in my argument I placed Adi Shankara's concept of Vairagya (dispassion from material world) in front of dharma! I think many people misunderstood my proposal and I'm the one to blame. My proposal would be better served at the Village Pump. I agree with you that if the Hindu images go, all on templates should go. It was more of pro-Wikipedia argument than an anti-Swastik argument because I believe it is an unnecessary strain on Wikimedia servers. A few guys understood it like BostonMA but overall I didn't explain it clearly enough.
While Krishna does say you should continue your dharma, the Bhagavad Gita mentions that one should stick to their karma (actions) but lose the phal ("fruitfulness"/sensual (Indriya) enjoyment). So it is best to not get emotional whenever something like this does happen. Best wishes GizzaChat © 22:16, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- And another thing, you may have seen my message on Unre's, Nadir's and Arjun's talk pages that I'm going to stay clear of anything controversial for the next 9 months. The stress it causes is not good for my final and most important year of high school (well, thats how it works in Aus.). That message above is the last I hope that is related to any sort of controversy. Bhadani gave me inspiration by rejecting any controversial stuff on his talk page (after all he is in his fifties and dealing with these issues wouldn't be good for his mental health). May you have a prosperous year on Wikipedia and on your real life endevours. GizzaChat © 22:24, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
I wrote a mini-essay response to your comment. Everything I wrote I am confident is right. To confirm you can ask Dbachamann who has studied Sanskrit for six years. Btw, what part of India do you originate from? I have a feeling it is from Bengal. I am eager to find out. Cheers GizzaChat © 00:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi
I couldn't understand why this user User:Netmonger is raising the above problem which totally irrelevant to Talk:Rajkumar Kanagasingam Page. As this is my Bio, could you help me to sort out this matter with him. Rajsingam 13:26, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
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Swastika
I think it's gone now. Nobleeagle [TALK] [C] 22:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
I only posted a simple question: "Are you Arsath?"
Hi
I only posted a simple question: "Are you Arsath?"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Netmonger#Are_you_Arsath.3F
But He has come out with the following lenghthy statement about me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Rajsingam
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Taj Mahal RFC
Thanks for your contribution to the Taj Mahal RFC. Would you mind expanding your reasons for "keep" - you see RFC is not a vote, consensus is reached from balancing and analysing arguments - just saying 'keep' doesn't really present an argument. --Joopercoopers 12:38, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
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Hey, a user is repeatedly adding this information to the Persecution of Hindus article which implies that the Hindu religion officially sanctions devadasi and persecution of Dalits. The text presented is the following: Human Rights Watch also alleges religiously sanctioned "Devdasi" system as a form of persecution. Described as 'sexual slavery', Dalit women are forced into 'marriage' with a diety or a temple, forced to become prostitutes to upper-caste community memebers, and are later likely to be auctioned to urban brothels.[42].The Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR)describes the Devdasi system, in one of its publications, as a form of "contemporary slavery", the abusive devadasi religious practices that violate children human rights, particularly those of dalit children,forcing them into sexual slavery and child marriages. [43] In the Second World Congress (SWC) Against the Commercial Sexual Exploitation of Children(CSEC)hosted in Japan in December 2001, Gracy Fernandes from the College of Social Work in Mumbai (India) described the practice of Devadasi in India as one through which "thousands of young girls from poor, often Dalit, families are sold or “married” to a deity and enter a system of forced prostitution from which they can rarely escape."[44] In the United Nations, through the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights,the General Assembly expressed "regrets" over the failure of India to enact national legislation to effectively eliminate the Devadasi practice, and recommended that the government take necessary steps to abolish the practice.[45] I find it insulting, but maybe it's just my mood, can you take a look? — Nobleeagle [TALK] [C] 03:51, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
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Re:MinaretDk
Hi - I must request you to not taunt this user (or anybody else) - it is plainly rude, apart from creating fresh problems. I can basically understand what you've said in Bengali, but I don't understand the need to do so. Please do not exchange incivilities with him. Rama's arrow 22:58, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Just Three Questions
Just went onto Wikipedia for the first time in a long time and found three messages, one from you saying I could ask you anything I needed to know. I consequently have three questions. First, how do I get rid of the "you have new messages" thing? Second, how do I delete a message I don't want on there? And third, uh, who are you? (No offense, but it seems kind of random to give me a message--the only others I've gotten are a request not to print speculative theories about FF8 and graffiti from someone who also put a link to a picture of a stripper.)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.172.233.90 (talk)
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Emerging superpowers
We lost. Yours was one of 8 keep votes which were discounted from the discussion. Sad day for Wikipedia when information is thrown out the door because of the addition of OR material. — Nobleeagle [TALK] [C] 06:44, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hi, please see Noble's talk page. Thank you GizzaChat © 09:06, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- It's on deletion review. Btw, Bhaisaab's had his ban reset. — Nobleeagle [TALK] [C] 06:26, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
no incivility or personal attacks
Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.
In light of your recent posts at user talk:MinaretDk and user talk:Nobleeagle, I must ask you to be civil under all circumstances - it will be difficult and frustrating, but you simply must. The kind of comments you made about "Indian editors," to DaGizza, MinaretDk and Nadirali are very insulting. A "tit-for-tat" mentality cannot be used as justification. You are a good, tireless and productive user, so please keep your emotions and behavior up to the high standards of your work. Rama's arrow
- Don't give people reasons to get you. You've never been slapped for anything.Bakaman 01:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan/Workshop.
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Goa Inquisition - sources
Sources for your edits to Goa Inquisition have been requested. If you could provide them, it would be very much appreciated. Thank you. Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:14, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- Also, I have to insist that you not use summaries like "rvv" for content disputes - no content dispute is vandalism. Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:18, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Percentage of Hindus in Italy
Hinduism in Italy needs to be updated in percentage in Wikipedia because there a around 75,000 Hindus in Italy which is reported in International freedom Report 2004 to 2006 --Padn 03:39, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Update Percentage of Hindus in Vietnam
Percentage of Hindus in Vietnam must be updated because there are around 55,000 Hindus in Vietnam as reported by IFR 2004 to 2006 --Padn 03:39, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Template for deletion
Hi. I have seen that you have made and commented on many templates in Hinduism-related articles. A newly created Template:ModernDharmicWriters is up for deletion. I would appreciate it if you could comment on this. --Bondego 09:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks
It's been a week and a bit since my recent request for adminship passed, and since I haven't managed to delete the Main Page - yet - I figure it's safe to send these out. Thanks a lot for participating in my RfA; I hope to do a good job. If you see me doing something wrong, need help, or just want to have a chat, please don't hesitate to drop by :) – riana_dzasta 13:01, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Re: Goodbye to your bengali scripts
You wrote: "say goodbye to your bengali scripts forever! :-D!" on Wikipedia talk:Notice board for Bangladesh-related topics quoting Wikipedia:Vernacular scripts in the headline. Since, that hasn't happened, may I ask what made you make that comment? Aditya Kabir 16:23, 28 February 2007 (UTC) - Please, answer to my talk page
Re: Go, read the discussion
If you have read the discussion instead of advising others to read it you would have found that I was more active about it than you. And, you also would have found out that there was nothing on it that says we can say goodbye to Bengali scripts, instead of saying goodbye to whatever your native script is. Well, if you don't have an explanation, there's no use use asking for one. Parting with a request, please, don't go so happy in derogating the scripts of the Bengali. They fought for the rights of their language, and you may check, that the Mother Language Day of Bangladesh is now accepted as the global Mother Language Day. Hurting others is easy, making sense is not. Cheers. Aditya Kabir 07:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Oh please, I'm not trying to make trouble. Okay? Please, check how you were writing:
- "Say goodbye to your Bengali scripts forever! :-D!"
- "Go, read the discussion"
- "Are you trying to make trouble?"
- Sounds very rude and arrogant, right? I just you to know that this seeming rudeness and arrogance can hurt people. Since it seems that you already are on trouble-alert, there is no use discussing anything anymore. I am leaving you alone as you advised, just don't go on cheerily to a Bangladeshi noticeboard declaring a death of their script. That hurts. Perhaps you can see it's not the same as discussing the uselessness of non-English scripts in English articles. Cheers. Aditya Kabir 08:14, 2 March 2007 (UTC) - BTW, I do admire your contribution to Hinduism article, and find you to be a very valuable colleague. Not trying to pick a fight.
Homo?
I think you are gay. Told me to never type on your page again, funny. I think i still can, yea, go ahead block this IP, i'll just change it.
Bio: Rajkumar Kanagasingam
Hi,
An editor is continuously vandalising my Bio over dispute related to Talk:Anton Balasingham. The editor tried hard to delete my Bio from wikipedia. You can see the evidence here(1) and here(2)' The editor is taking an undue interest over my Bio and deleted over Citation. I have restored the information. I requested an Administrator to check my Bio whether Citations are enough. I also taken this matter for Request for Comment. Though I have off-line media archives(which are attached on Talk:Rajkumar Kanagasingam, I couldn't bring it to the articles. Now I am very much frustrated. Please help me on this matter.Rajkumar Kanagasingam 05:46, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
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Hwoarang
Do not add unsourced nonsense edits to Hwoarang. The edit you are trying to include is cruft that some fans made up one day. It is hardly encyclopedic. Go have fun on Wikipedia:Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense. oncamera(t) 07:44, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
RfAr
JFD has filed for an arbitration case. If I could trouble you to take a look into it. Freedom skies| talk 09:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
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Help requested
Hi D-Boy, I happened to notice an article "Sanatan Singh Sabha". On its talk page, I have requested help to post two citations in that article. Hope you will help. Thanks.Kanchanamala 03:22, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
P.S. That article has since been modified. There is only one statement now for which I've been able to get a citation. May I request you to see if you can add it. Thanks.Kanchanamala 09:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
No help needed anymore. D-Boy, I helped myself. Thanks.Kanchanamala 11:28, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
The article on Sri Anandamoyi Ma is in serious shambles. Help wanted. Aditya Kabir 16:15, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
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You should jump into the mud more often. too much pseudo-aryan migration crap is going on wikipedia. Many are admins who are writing this and they threaten others. Some admins won't even do a thing to stop it. Noble eagle has left wikipedia. an afr has been filed on freedom skies. I think wiki is going down the tube. it's really not the same as it was.--D-Boy 06:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for your message. For all practical purpose, I have stopped doing any edit to wikipedia, and may be treated as having "left" for the time being as there is no meaning to talk with a section of editors who want to harm the long term interests of wikipedia. Perhaps there are many who shall be around to help wikipedia maintain its creditability. Regards. --Bhadani (talk) 06:14, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- I have basically left too. It's not worth staying around. they took the swatika off our welcome template. I felt this was self censorship and ignorance. another 50 years of censorship for it. They took off the indian flag on wikiproject template because some paks were complaining it was nationalist. I felt extremely betrayed by dagizza and dab abuse his powers as an admin.--D-Boy 06:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- I do not have any comments to offer - I do not feel anything except that majority of the persons are not aware of so many things, and actions based on ignorance look highly funny and ludicrous. It is interesting :) and a good pastime to watch their action. In case, you want, just hang around like me, and watch the drama: many elements of national socialism may be marauding the length and breadth of wikipedia in innocent incarnations - who knows? Please also understand that there is life beyond wikipedia - for exmaple you may come to Wikindia for a change, and It is strongly recommended that users create accounts there to avoid impersonation:[1]. --Bhadani (talk) 06:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- I have basically left too. It's not worth staying around. they took the swatika off our welcome template. I felt this was self censorship and ignorance. another 50 years of censorship for it. They took off the indian flag on wikiproject template because some paks were complaining it was nationalist. I felt extremely betrayed by dagizza and dab abuse his powers as an admin.--D-Boy 06:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)