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Your submission at Articles for creation: Forests Commission of Victoria (February 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by MatthewVanitas was:

While this appears to be a valid topic, you need to cite more than just one source.

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MatthewVanitas (talk) 07:21, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Forests Commission of Victoria has been accepted

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MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:53, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I’m new to Wikipedia. This is my first page. I have asked my forestry colleagues to review the content for content and accuracy. Do I need to do anything special other than make progressive improvements. I would hate to lose my work DBHOB (talk) 10:17, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I suggst you visit the Teahouse with questions, as it's unlikely anyone is watching this page. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:08, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia and copyright

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Please help me with...

Hi there

I need to change the title of my first entry from

"Forests Commission of Victoria" to the more correct "Forests Commission Victoria" (No of)

Can you help please ??

DBHOB

DBHOB (talk) 09:38, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Done — 1997 kB 14:25, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

More here.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:53, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Forests Commission Victoria

Hi,
I really enjoy working together to improve this article. Unfortunately, the article's body is way too large and has a lot of useful information which would greatly profit from being made concise and manageable. I don't want to start an edit war over the tag that I have put, so please don't remove it again until the problem is fixed. If you have an issue, let's discuss it on the talk page.

P.S - My timezone is Montréal, Canada, so I might normally respond a few hours after you do.
Cheers! Double Plus Ungood (talk) 05:51, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

This is my first effort at Wikipedia so I'm not sure exactly how this works.

I agree the page has got too long.

My problem is Im getting lots of input from members who once belonged to the Forests Commission and want their story told

I think I can split it up by taking out all the firefighting aircraft stuff into a separate page

Leave it with me for a bit.

Cheers DBHOB

Draft:Victorian School of Forestry (VSF)

Hi DBHOB,

I noticed your draft when checking something on the WikiProject Forestry homepage. As I thought this was an interesting article, I had a quick look and have done a quick review. I have removed the 'New unreviewed article' template and added a 'reference improvement' template. I also did some editing to improve the appearance of the article. I also have the following comments:

There is a lot of unreferenced content - please go through the article and check every sentence. If you cannot add a citation immediately, remove any uncited content and put it back later when you find a reference
Rename the article as 'Victorian School of Forestry' - it is not necessary to include the abbreviation in the article's title.
It needs an infobox - suggest Template:Infobox school .
Suggest breaking up the 'History' section into smaller chronological sections .
Also, a specific section that describes the VSF's facility would be useful - this can be created by gathering relevant existing content together.
VSF Principals - suggest replacing the table with a plain list as this looks better (in my opinion) and also allows content to be used as a destination for 'redirects'.

Please reply here if you wish to respond to the above as I am now watching your talk page.

Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 07:42, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there Cowdy001, Thanks for your advice. Im new to Wikipedia. I went to VSF between 1975-77.

I cant seem to change the title of the page and remove the abbreviation (VSF). Maybe you can. I have cited references to all sections of the text. I have tried to add an info box but cant work out how to add a picture of the school logo. I broke up the text as suggested I would like to leave the table for the moment. Im waiting on a reference from the senior lectures at VSF in the 1970s with more info on all the principals I will write more about the grounds when I get the document

Cheers DBHOB

Hi there Cowdy001, Thanks for your advice. Im new to Wikipedia. I went to VSF between 1975-77. I cant seem to change the title of the page and remove the abbreviation (VSF). Maybe you can. I have cited references to all sections of the text. I have tried to add an info box but cant work out how to add a picture of the school logo. I broke up the text as suggested I would like to leave the table for the moment. Im waiting on a reference from the senior lectures at VSF in the 1970s with more info on all the principals I will write more about the grounds when I get the document. Cheers DBHOB DBHOB (talk) 02:46, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, Is there anything else I need to do to get this page moved from draft to published. Please let me know. Cheers DBHOB DBHOB (talk) 06:23, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DBHOB, The article looks good! I have made a few changes. The only additional comment that I have is that about half of the reference list is 'bare weblinks'. I think it would be prudent to fill out the references as I did for the citation for Edwin James Semmens (who appears to notable enough to have his own Wikipedia article), so that the reader can see what the link is about before clicking it. Otherwise, I think you have done a good job. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 11:53, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good morning Cowdy001 Thanks once again for your helpful advice I have added more information to the references as recommended I agree that some of the school principals deserve their own page but I'm not an expert but I know a few people who are. It can be my next Wikipedia project Is this all it needs to get it published Cheers DBHOBDBHOB (talk) 21:40, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there Cowdy001. I’m hoping to get this draft published. I’m meeting some ex students form VSF on the weekend. What is the process? Are you able to help me ? Thanks DBHOB DBHOB (talk) 21:22, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

hi there Cowdy. I think I have worked it out. Cheers DBHOB (talk) 22:40, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you!

Nice job with the Victorian School of Forestry article! DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 00:17, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for your help and advice.

I have updated with new citations as suggested.

Cheers DBHOB (talk) 00:31, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there

I took out your edit of "technical school".

In Australia, Technical Schools are where young who are not suited to University go to learn a trade like hairdressing, pastry chef or motor mechanic

I also moved the photo of Frank Moulds. But it was a great prompt to try and find photos of all the Principals of VSF

Im missing a couple but I'm following some leads

I'm trying to get some firm details on the Forestry course at the University of Melbourne. I think it opened in 1938 but also have 1943 listed.DBHOB (talk) 01:56, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers DBHOB (talk) 01:56, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there

I am trying to compile some Wikipedia entries on the more important principals from the Victorian School of Forestry

I started with Edwin James Semmens

Im totally new at this. Would you mind reviewing my draft

Thanks. I have appreciated your comments and edits.

DBHOb (peter)DBHOB (talk) 07:02, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Edwin James Semmens

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Thankyou.

Naturally I'm disappointed to have my draft deleted but I will rewrite another version "in my own words" using all the reference material that is available

In the meantime could you check another page I have written on Alfred Oscar Lawrence

Cheers DBHOB (talk) 01:37, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers

I noticed on the weekend that your draft had been deleted and have just noticed that it had been restored. I have made a couple of edits and will get back to you later with some comments. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 01:07, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Alfred Oscar Lawrence

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A tag has been placed on Alfred Oscar Lawrence requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from http://oa.anu.edu.au/obituary/lawrence-alfred-oscar-alf-14849. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to use it for any reason — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. The same holds if you are not the owner but have their permission. If you are not the owner and do not have permission, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for how you may obtain it. You might want to look at Wikipedia's copyright policy for more details, or ask a question here.

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