User talk:DB/Archive/Constructive Criticism

787 infobox

I see you've added a specs infobox to Boeing 787 despite there already being a specs table at the bottom. Also, the aircraft wikiproject has abandoned the infobox in favor of an inline list-based format, so adding an infobox (with the old colors, no less) to a new/ongoing article is a bit out of fashion. So—just letting you know that if you don't change/remove it, someone else very probably will. Have a good one! -eric ✈ 16:49, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Despite the modifications to the infobox, it's still not really acceptable. Here's one reason why. For various others, as discussed at the wikiproject, I'm removing it from the 3 or 4 other Boeing airliners you've added it to. If you can work out the issues of page alignment without moving the images then go for it, otherwise please refrain. -eric ✈ 20:41, 13 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Asiamiles

The main thing that tipped me into keeping it is the fact it's still used on a couple of fairly major airline articles. If you could get that sorted out, I'm sure it could be re-listed and would probably go through unopposed. Dan100 (Talk) 14:25, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Middle East Airlines Wikipedia page

Hi, could you please stop renaming the name of the airline to Middle East Airlines, Air Liban.

Air Liban was Lebanon's other major airline which ceased to exist as an independent entity in 1963 when it merged with MEA.

For a brief while after the merger, the airline marketed itself as "Middle East Airlines - Air Liban" however, the Air Liban part quickly disappeared and it just became "Middle East Airlines" again.

The only remnant of the Air Liban name is in the title of the parent company which is Middle East Airlines / Air Liban SAL. This is the equivalent of AMR Corp and UAL Corp. However, you don't say "I'm flying on UAL Corp." you always say "I'm flying on United Airlines" or "I'm flying on United."

SAL stands for Société Anonyme Libanaise (it's French) which is just the incorporation form of a basic Joint Stock Company offered by the Lebanese government.

I hope this clears the misunderstanding. I know the press releases about MEA joining SkyTeam as an associate member have used "Middle East Airlines, Air Liban" but this is incorrect. Air Liban is only left in the name of the parent company and it is even sometimes left out. Sometimes you will just see "Middle East Airlines SAL." The only reason why it is officially left is for nostalgic and historical purposes.

You can check out their website for more information: http://www.mea.com.lb

And for historical information, this is an amazing website: http://wassch71.tripod.com/cedarjetpages.html

Thank you for your understanding.

Hello, as I have stated, Middle East Airlines / Air Liban is only left in the name of the parent company.

MEA does not market itself as Middle East Airlines / Air Liban. When you fly them, you will not once hear them announce themselves as Air Liban. It is always just Middle East Airlines.

Take a look at the message left by the chairman: http://www.mea.com.lb/MEA/English/Corporate/ChairmanMessage.htm

In his message, he always refers to the airline as MEA or Middle East Airlines. Middle East Airlines / Air Liban is the name of the company, but they market themselves as Middle East Airlines.

Go on Airliners.net and check out some photos of MEA, you will not find anywhere the word "Air Liban." The word "Air Liban" ceased to exist after the merger and was kept in the name of the parent company for historical and nostalgic purposes, but the airline no longer markets itself as Middle East Airlines / Air Liban. They only marketted themselves "Middle East Airlines - Air Liban" after the merger, then it disappeared entirely.

To give you an example, check out the American Airlines page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines

The title of the airline is American Airlines and the title of the parent company is AMR Corporation. To change the airline name to Middle East Airlines, Air Liban as you did would be the equivelant of changing the airline name from American Airlines to AMR Corporation when this is not true.

I stress again, the name of the airline is Middle East Airlines, not Middle East Airlines / Air Liban. Only the parent company is called Middle East Airlines / Air Liban. The CEO, Mohammed El-Hout is the CEO of the company Middle East Airlines / Air Liban SAL, but the airline markets itself as Middle East Airlines.

Again, go on Airliners.net and look at some pictures of MEA. You will not see the name Air Liban anywhere because the airline hasn't marketed itself Middle East Airlines / Air Liban in more than 30 years.

The full legal name of the airline is Middle East Airlines or MEA. The name of the parent company is Middle East Airlines / Air Liban SAL. There is a difference.

Middle East Airlines / Air Liban SAL owns three other subsidiaries, they are Middle East Airports Services (MEAS), Middle East Airlines Ground Handling (MEAG) and Mideast Aircraft Services Company (MASCO).

Age of consent

Thanks for your non-anonymous edit on this page, it's refreshing change. However you didn't leave a comment as to why you ~~deleted~~ edited the text. Could you please give us the reasons behind your edit? Also if you have any authorities to back up your edit perhaps you would like to cite them as per the notes in each section and the talk page's "AoC Challenge" topic. Cheers :) Monotonehell 06:19, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry that was meant to read 'edited' not 'deleted' up there. That's great that you've cited an authority! Thank you very much. Only a few hundred more entries to go - lol. Monotonehell 10:54, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Friendly Reminder

When using template tags on talk pages, don't forget to substitute with text by adding subst: to the template tag. For example, use {{subst:test}} instead of {{test}}. This reduces server load and prevents accidental blanking of the template.

FYI, this reminder was sparked by your not subst'ing the afd2 template on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Singapore Airlines fleet, making it impossible to edit it from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/Today -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 17:05, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/O.A. Accidents

Please read my comment in this AFD discussion. If material is merged its edit history needs to be retained. Therefore it's not allowed to delete it. Please finish a merge with the creation of a redirect. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:39, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Airline Logotypes

I've noticed many of the logotypes you've added to airline pages appear to be from the Aerosite.net logotypr library. Use of the logotypes is OK, but I do ask that you credit Aerosite as the source of the images. Thanks! Aerosite 14:55, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nanaimo Harbour Water Aerodrome

You may have missed this Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports/Archive2#Layout and formatting of ICAO + IATA codes and if you look at other airports (Ann Arbor Municipal Airport) the codes are also in both the article and the infobox. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 17:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. It was in the archive so I figured you'd missed it.

Skyteam hubs

You could have suggested a merger rather than taking it to AFD (just noticed your comment on the afd save). Yomangani 18:13, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NWA

Hello, I think you've made a mistake: Northwest Airlines no longer provides non-stop DTW-PEK service since 2002. -- Ziyang Liu