User talk:Ctskelly

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Wrong title for entry

The entry titled "The Sands of Kurobe" (a Japanese movie) should be "The Sun of Kurobe." I could edit this error on other pages but since it was a title, could not edit it on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sands_of_Kurobe

Curtis Kelly Ctskelly (talk) 08:49, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

• Hi Ctskelly, although as a translation Sun would appear to be more reasonable Wikipedia uses what is commonly accepted using reliable sources, we do not use personal translations. For whatever reason is appears to be translated as "The Sands of Kurobe" as given in the source "The End of Japanese Cinema: Industrial Genres, National Times, and Media Ecologies" (and in IMDB although that is not considered a reliable source). What counts is here is what the film in know as in English as that is what people would look up, this could be a mistranslation but could just be what was used for another reason. The same goes the other way around with many English films given odd names in Japanese such as James Bond "You Only Live Twice" was released as 007は二度死ぬ "007 Dies Twice". Also note I had to revert your other edits relating to this as you just broke the links to the article. If you can find sources to show a more correct translation was used and the source given is not the common name then it could/should be changed. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:47, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Compare Google Books searches: "Sun of Kurobe", "Sands of Kurobe" (and one of the sources for "Sun of Kurobe" is a false positive and says the "tentative English title" is "The Sun of Kurobe Dam"). Wikipedia should follow the common usage in English-language sources. Huon (talk) 12:18, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

@KylieTastic: By golly you are right! Thanks. I just noticed on the video box in small print, "The Sands of Kurobe" http://www.japanesesamuraidvd.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/1307 Taiyo (太陽) is 100% Sun, and far from any ocean, there are no "sands" at Kurobe, so it must be fascinating how this odd English title came about. I can imagine someone asking a Japanese what Taiyo means, and he/she saying "sahn" which got heard as "sand." Wow.