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Hello, I'm AwfulReader. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Cotter family, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. - AwfulReader^(talk) 14:02, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Julius Cotter (May 1)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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KylieTastic (talk) 17:35, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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HONORIFICS/UGC

Hi. And welcome. In relation to this edit, please note that:

WP:UGC / WP:MIRROR - This webpage is a mirror of the equivalent Wikipedia page/content. Not only are other wikis (and other forms of user generated content) not considered reliable sources but, for obvious reasons, Wikipedia cannot be a source for itself.
MOS:HONORIFIC / MOS:SIR - If you added the above (cyclical/self-referring) source to the article to justify adding the honorific "Sir" to the text, then please note that (reliably referenced or not), using honorifics in running text is not in keeping with the related guidelines.

Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 16:29, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Guliolopez,

I am unsure as why you remove my edit regarding Sir Delaval Cotter Bt.

He would not be refered to as Delaval Cotter, but Sir Delaval Cotter, 6th Baronet of Rockforest, or Sir Delaval Cotter, Bt.

A baronet is always refered to as Sir Example, that is their title. It is different from that of a Lord who may be called Example One, 3rd Baron Example.

Please refer to the use of the baronet title in other wikipedia articles, included below, thankyou:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baronet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Nicholas_Bacon,_14th_Baronet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Annesley,_1st_Viscount_Valentia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominick_Sarsfield,_1st_Viscount_Sarsfield

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_John_Meade,_1st_Baronet CristinaBenitezJones (talk) 09:45, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And one more reference here regarding baronet or knight titles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Fitz_Edmond_Cotter

Regards

Cristina Benitez Jones CristinaBenitezJones (talk) 10:00, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I have changed/restored the link/target (in the running text of the Blackwater Castle article) from [[Lieutenant-Colonel Sir Delaval Cotter, 6th Baronet of Rockforest]] to [[Delaval Cotter|Sir Delaval Cotter, 6th Baronet Rockforest]] because that is the project convention.

In terms of the (red) link to the article title, as per the section of WP:NCBRITPEER dealing with Baronets, "Baronets should, if no disambiguation is required, have their article located at the simple name, e.g. George Albu (rather than "Sir George Albu, 1st Baronet")"

In terms of the running text itself, and while WP:NCBRITPEER would seem to provide for Baronets having the "Sir" included, the MOS:HONORIFIC guidelines do not provide for the inclusion of every possible title/office/prefix/honorific/rank (military or otherwise) in running text. Take a look at the backlinks for the examples you provide above, for example, and you will note that that is not the convention/norm. Having multiple honorific prefixes and suffixes, in running text, is not Wikipedia's voice.

Bye. Guliolopez (talk) 11:14, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Julius Cotter (July 22)

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Hi.

I’m sorry, but the sourcing here isn’t helping the subject meet our General Notability Guidelines nor WP:NACTOR. The citations are passing mentions and/or primary sources related to the subject or things like IMDB.

We need *significant* in-depth coverage (that is independent of the subject - meaning no promotional pieces, government websites, event websites, social media, press releases, paid coverage) in notable major media outlets or by notable publishers about Julius Cotter. Examples: magazine and newspaper reviews and features about Julius Cotter specifically; books or peer-reviewed white papers written ABOUT Julius Cotter; television and radio features ABOUT Julius Cotter.

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Missvain (talk) 04:59, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

thanks for your comments.

I did quite a bit of research on this subject and also looked at actors in a similar postion to that of Julius Cotter.

One such actor, Christian Stamm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Stamm only uses the following references:

Categories:

German male film actors

German male television actors

German emigrants to Spain

Heidelberg University alumni

1967 births

Living people

Expatriate actors in Spain

German expatriates in Spain

They are all wikipedia references that do not mention him in any way. I therefore do not understand how his page could have been published and the page i wrote regarding the actor Julius Cotter, and now the head of the Cotter family (see wikipedia page on Cotter family, Baronets of Rockforest) has not.

Could you specifiy what the actor Christian Stamm's page has that I have forgotten to add to the page I put together regarding the actor Julius Cotter.

Another example, the Director, Esteban Crespo with whom Julius Cotter worked, has only one reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esteban_Crespo

and his imdb link.

These are just two references, to give examples, but i would ask for your help in telling me what their published pages have that the page i wrote about Julius Cotter, does not.

Did I not include his imdb page as Esteban Crepo has?

www.imdb.me/juliuscotter

There would also be changes to his page as he recently became the 8th Baronet of Rockforest, following the death of his father in 2023, according to the Times newspaper.

I would be very grateful for your help, so that can get this page updated and published.

Many thanks, in advance, for your help with this matter,

i await your reply (and help)

Kind regards

Cris CristinaBenitezJones (talk) 12:19, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good morning, how are you?

ihavent recieved a reply from you regarding my last message to you dated, 15th March 2023. Could you let me know your thoughts as i am keen to learn and understand wikippedia article writting. I have left you some references and would be very interested to know your comments.

Many thanks.

Best regards

Cris CristinaBenitezJones (talk) 08:18, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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