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Hi CR, Racialization has been for many months the target of an IP editor very committed to making sure any cleanup gets immediately reverted. Is it possible to get some kind of protection on it? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 05:37, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

@Zanahary: I'll take a closer look when I have a bit more time, which will probably be later today, though feel free to also ask at WP:RFPP if you think a quicker response is needed. I also see that the article talk page hasn't been edited in six months; have you (or anyone) been able to engage the IP in discussion? ^Complex/_Rational 12:53, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

fluorine-30

New isotope. :)

@Nucleus hydro elemon: may also be interested. :) Double sharp (talk) 05:42, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Another gap in the chart of nuclides filled! :O Hope that gaps ²¹C, ³³Ne, ^36,38Na, ³⁹Mg can be filled too. :) Nucleus hydro elemon (talk) 06:51, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Nice to see some progress. I'm also curious to see up until what element the neutron drip line can be followed. I'll read more when I'm on a computer; thanks Nucleus hydro elemon for already updating isotopes of fluorine. ^Complex/_Rational 08:29, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

It's interesting to see more confirmation that N = 20 is not magic in this extreme neutron-rich region, indeed!

I wonder if ¹⁷⁶Sn (Z = 50, N = 126) is bound and doubly magic. Not that we'll know for a long while. :) Double sharp (talk) 09:23, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

According to the graph in doi:10.1103/PhysRevC.105.034315, S_2n of ¹⁷⁶Sn is around 0 MeV, so it's hard to say that is ¹⁷⁶Sn bound or not. I only have access to the abstract, so I don't know more details. On the other hand, doi:10.1016/j.physletb.2024.138571 predicts that ¹⁷⁶Sn is unbound, but they also pointed out that the S_2n they calculated were too low for N > 82 isotopes, so ¹⁷⁶Sn still has a chance to become bound.

Both graphs have a large jump of S_2n from ¹⁷⁶Sn to ¹⁷⁸Sn, implies N = 126 is still magic there, but doi:10.1103/PhysRevC.91.015809 predicts conflicting result in graph. Nucleus hydro elemon (talk) 12:06, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

@Nucleus hydro elemon: Wow! You're good at digging out papers. Thanks for the info! :) Double sharp (talk) 12:28, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

@ComplexRational and Double sharp: doi:10.1103/PhysRevC.108.034313 mentioned ²¹C. Not sure do they actually discovered ²¹C... Nucleus hydro elemon (talk) 15:35, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

@Nucleus hydro elemon: Hmm. ²¹C had already been reported in 2015 (p. 6, Table 3). Perhaps we have fallen behind. :( Double sharp (talk) 15:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

It is already discovered long time ago? I only search references after 2020 because ²¹C is absent in NUBASE2020. The nuclides listed in Table 3 are quite complicated, some (e.g. ^261,262Lr) are listed in NUBASE2020, while others (e.g. ^24,25N) don't.

What should we do for the nuclides that are forgotten by NUBASE2020? Nucleus hydro elemon (talk) 16:04, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

@Nucleus hydro elemon: At least for nuclides discovered more recently than NUBASE2020 was published, I just include another citation. I'd be inclined to do the same for "forgotten" nuclides, but I'd imagine a good number of those are only reported in conference proceedings that haven't been published in the literature, unconfirmed reports, or retracted reports, so checks for all of those should be done. ^Complex/_Rational 20:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

BTW, I found an interesting paper on the arXiv noting that unlike the previous proton shell closures, Z = 82 isn't strong enough to keep the neighbouring isotopes spherical, except at the doubly magic ²⁰⁸Pb. It reminds me of how we heard that proton shell closures are likely to be quite weak in the superheavy region and that stability will mostly depend on reaching N = 184. Double sharp (talk) 17:53, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

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Aluminium-21

New isotope.

@Nucleus hydro elemon: For your attention as well. :) Double sharp (talk) 12:48, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the exciting news! It's always great to see that the nuclide chart get extended. Nucleus hydro elemon (talk) 15:27, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

P.S. I get these updates from being subscribed by email to the Discovery of Nuclides Project. I'd recommend doing likewise. :) Double sharp (talk) 12:51, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

I do check the site periodically, but perhaps I should formally subscribe. Thanks for the update! ^Complex/_Rational 14:24, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

@Nucleus hydro elemon: ^37,38Sc and ³⁴K. From the same source (i.e. where I got the emails). :) Double sharp (talk) 17:10, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Sep 25: Wikimedia NYC Annual Election Meeting (plus Latin music event on Sep 21!)

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Possible copyvio

These revisions by an IP look like a possible copyright violation to me: the text is basically lifted ad literam from the source. I'm not sure what to do in such a situation — perhaps just delete the text, although it is well sourced, and somewhat relevant (though arguably puts too much weight on the incident)? Or is a more drastic action required by an admin like you, e.g., striking out completely the copy-and-paste edit? Thanks, Turgidson (talk) 19:19, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

@Turgidson: Thanks for bringing this up; it was indeed a copyright violation. Because of potential legal implications, copyright violations must be removed and revision-deleted. Generally, the correct procedure is to revert the copyright-infringing edits and request revision deletion, either on- or off-wiki, from any admin on this list. I have reverted and hidden the text in question. Cheers, ^Complex/_Rational 01:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

@ComplexRational: Thanks for the explanations, that helps figure out what to do if and when a similar situation occurs. BTW, I had looked at WP:CRD, but the explanations there didn't quite make clear to me how to proceed, at least not at first glance. Also, I looked there for a list of admins that I could contact about this, but I missed the list you mention (I see it now!), so I just looked at a list of currently active admins, and your username jumped at me because of its mathematical connotations :-) Luckily, I see now that you belong to the intersection of the two sets. All the best, Turgidson (talk) 02:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

@Turgidson: Better than being irrational I suppose :D

I should also mention that you should place {{cv-revdel}} on an article after you remove the infringing text (specifying the revision IDs), so that any patrolling admin can see it and take action quickly. Before I was an admin, I used this script to help with the process. Revdel requests are also fine, but more intended for other types of problematic content that should not be discussed on highly visible pages. ^Complex/_Rational 14:19, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

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