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Eurycoma longifolia

This concerns the Eurycoma longifolia page that is spammed in a sophisticated manner and protected by Cominion. The sophisticated spam is intended to promote a certain company that prints standardization on their labels.

First two logically wrong references are included. The references claim that for certain herbal medications, there is a wide divergence of quality. These references do not relate to Eurycoma longifolia.

An example for the applied logic is: it has been shown that the quality of saws and drills varies widely, so lets standardize hammers.

Furthermore, glycosaponins are not specific to Eurycoma longifolia but to a huge array af plants. To make claims that glycosaponins would work as a marker to differenciate Eurycoma longifolia from non-Eurycoma longifolia is trickery.

There is a reference to a Malaysian government-approved standardization body, but the page were standardization markers are specified is not in the reference.

The inclusion is spam in scientific lingo. The inclusion has been made to give a certain company based in Eastern Europe a competitive edge.

Readers believe Wikipedia. Feeding them pseudoscientific sales talk should be avoided.

Cheers,

Peter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.48.124.57 (talk) 06:40, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I shall try to reply to the best of my knowledge:

"The references claim that for certain herbal medications, there is a wide divergence of quality. These references do not relate to Eurycoma longifolia." The references refer to the use of extract ratios for herbal extracts in general. I believe that all herbs would be subject to this statement, and E. longifolia is a herb.
"Furthermore, glycosaponins are not specific to Eurycoma longifolia but to a huge array af plants. To make claims that glycosaponins would work as a marker to differenciate Eurycoma longifolia from non-Eurycoma longifolia is trickery." I think you're confusing identification techniques with standardization. The section you’re referring isn’t identification of the species, but the methods to quantify the quality of extracts.
:There is a reference to a Malaysian government-approved standardization body, but the page were standardization markers are specified is not in the reference." The full reference is behind a paywall. I have uploaded the necessary page here: [1] Just to clarify, I don't mean that the listed standardization method is the only ways to quantify the quality of E. longifolia. This is only one example, and I think notable enough to be shared on wiki.

I will copy this discussion to the article talk page for posterity. If you wish to discuss further, we can do it there. Cominion (talk) 10:48, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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