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Chislehurst, Sidcup and Maoist theory

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The Drunkard's Progress...

Hello there ColaXtra. While wishing to retain an aura of anonymity within the confines of Wikipedia, I can confirm that I sometimes do live in South East London, although am somewhat nomadic and rarely stay in one place for very long. I can also confirm that I am not a Maoist, but equally, I am not explicitly anti-Maoist. I am not a Marxist to begin with – and hence I cannot possibly be a Maoist, but I recognize the potential for Maoist popular movements and/or goverments to improve the standard of living in certain parts of the developing world. Admittedly, Maoist doctrine does lead to a suppression of civil liberties, which we westerners – having been raised upon the ideological bedrock of classical liberalism – typically find intensely repulsive, but for the impoverished peasants of India, Nepal and other parts of the developing world, the promise of a socialist future in which their children would not go hungry, and in which they would be provided with a free education and medical care, surely outways any allegiance to the ethereal concept of civil liberties and liberal democracy. I hope that that explains my position on the matter. Best. Midnightblueowl (talk) 10:34, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Temperance my dear chap, temperance. Midnightblueowl (talk) 10:19, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Everyone but libertarian leftists are vagrants and vagabonds, old fellow. Remember that. Midnightblueowl (talk) 19:56, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sir, your authoritarian credentials astound me. Surely, even the most basic of priapulida would recognise the value of a socialist, libertarian utopia, a Heaven on Earth if you will. Anyone who disagrees with such a position should rightly be persecuted, and locked away in some sort of containment area for the foreseeable future, post haste. There must be no tolerance of the intolerant, no freedom for those who would suppress freedom. Disgruntled of Bexley. Midnightblueowl (talk) 12:52, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Close, but no banana. Admittedly, if I was working or studying in the United States during the 1960s or 1970s (or perhaps even later) I might have been considered to be an anthropologist... Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:44, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea what that film is... is that a Scientologist acting in it ? Are you using Wikipedia as a recruiting ground for Scientologist militants ? Do you truly place your faith in the Sea Org ? If so, you need to go to your nearest Wetherspoons and get a stiff drink, sunshine. Midnightblueowl (talk) 22:24, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Incidentally, it's someone very special's birthday tomorrow. I do hope that you're coming to the party. Bring cake. Maoist cake. Midnightblueowl (talk) 22:30, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Now now, I go to all that effort to write his/her Wikipedia page, and you still ask me who Divine is. Divine is divinity itself; even Richard Dawkins renounced his atheistic heathenry when he learned of Divine, and proclaimed to her/his statue, "Thou Art God." Dawkins can now be found strutting his stuff in a sparkly fat suit up and down Mayfair, acting all mighty fierce and fabulous, his life dramatically improved. Would you not agree ? Midnightblueowl (talk) 23:11, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Dancing girls in Sidcup Morrisons ?!?!? Ban this sick filth !!! Midnightblueowl (talk) 19:20, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Admittedly, about two weeks ago I was returning from Central London late at night, and had to sit amongst some of the hoi poloi first year freshers from Rose Bruford on their way home from seeing something entitled Loserville. Noisy, irritating lot. And Mr/s Cola, I must protest that with the use of such terminology as "really pretty, shapely legs, supple... and also really, really nice", you remind me of a fine, upstanding gentleman who got himself in a spot of bother. Wikipedia is not an appropriate venue for the discussion of totty; it is an ethereal realm of scholarship and quiet, asexual contemplation and celibacy. Midnightblueowl (talk) 00:13, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh naughty, naughty Israelis. I'll have to ask my rabbi what is to be done about them. (Midnightblueowl (talk) 12:44, 23 October 2012 (UTC))[reply]

Me, Jewish ? Who dear, me dear, no dear?!? I have a rabbi locked up in my basement; he's my pet and I keep him in a hutch. When he's bad I threaten to cannibalise him in a non-kosher meal. Although I do have a Jewish posse fron North London, and was at one of their weddings (to a rough and ready gentile no less) a few weeks back. My personal background is a little more "Celtic" in extraction, although that is a term which is absolute sheep testicles, hence why archaeologists (hint hint) are increasingly rallying against it. And the IMO... yes, I know of them. Awful organisation. They actually believe that Palestinians are human beings ?!?!?! Good Heavens, whatever next ! Midnightblueowl (talk) 17:30, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Very well. I shall excavate your wife. Sounds highly perverse doesn't it. Will you be following the Bird College nubiles around Morrisons during the excavation ? Married couples scare me; they remind me of Fred and Rose, the subject of a delightful song by a joyous old pal of mine, well, more my other half's old pal really. Is your name Fred; and if not, why not ? Oh, and thankfully, my "Celtic Heritage" comes from elsewhere in these isles; less male valley choirs and more haggis-and-kilts... and Irish Republican activities. Bit of a mongrol is me. Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:41, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I just realized that you said "cousin's wife", not "your wife".... unless you share a wife with your cousin.... Midnightblueowl (talk) 23:23, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If only there was a Waitrose open in Sidcup where you could go to purchase good quality, premium middle-class Cola, to sip while reading your Guardian and spluttering at the thought that Palestinian children might be sleeping without extra blankets this winter or that Saint Obama, champion of the oppressed, might be voted from power by the Evil Mormon Lord Romney.... Midnightblueowl (talk) 00:09, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Why, you are a very ravenous lesbian from the sounds of it... lusting after these ladies while drinking your poor-quality enamel-eroding beverage. It's a slippery slope to homelessness my friend, a slippery slope... Midnightblueowl (talk) 12:24, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh that bloody council, always spoiling everyone's fun. The weird thing is, when I used to loiter around there in my teenage years, you used to find such things as bloodied blankets in the bushes. Never saw any hanky-panky whatsoever though, nor the usual evidence of said activity (used Jonnies, etc etc). Not like Waring Park; God that place was seedy. Shame, would have made for some beautiful memories.... Midnightblueowl (talk) 18:09, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Now now, calm down, calm down, you randy little boy... Midnightblueowl (talk) 10:23, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, but whose to say that I have a Facebook account..... ? Midnightblueowl (talk) 19:33, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
By the Beard of the Prophet! You have exposed my nefarious activities! In fact, the only one of my Wiki-awards that is genuine is indeed the Maoist Sexual Studies award. You sir, need to read more about Maoism, and our beloved leader, Pappa Mao. Midnightblueowl (talk) 21:49, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, old Buczynski.... No I am not a Wiccan, although I am very interested in new religious movements, particularly those which try to revive pre-Christian religion in some form. Many Wiccans are indeed atheist, although they probably constitute a minority rather than a majority; I think that they simply enjoy the altered states of consciousness that Wiccan rituals bring. Ah, and his cause of death... well you'll have to wait till I finish writing the article to discover the exciting conclusion... :p Midnightblueowl (talk) 11:18, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your offer to help with JSTOR articles

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Hi ColaXtra. I would like to take you up on you offer to help me get a JSTOR article. One that I am looking for is:

Image Modulation in Corona Discharge Photography
John O. Pehek, Harry J. Kyler and David L. Faust
Science

New Series, Vol. 194, No. 4262 (Oct. 15, 1976), pp. 263-270
Published by: American Association for the Advancement of Science

DOI: 10.2307/1742214
Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/1742214

Thanks in advance. — MrX 19:38, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I got it. Thanks again! — MrX 20:23, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Potato

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Thank you very much, I've copied over the parts Alan Liefting said was missing. It was just the lead, wasn't it? *sigh* I thought he took care of it himself.-- OBSIDIANSOUL 01:11, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar

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What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
This barnstar is to thank you for implementing the obvious idea I should have had of moving a book listed in the external links section of economic bubble to a new further reading section. Thanks! Michael Anon 07:18, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. actions in Cambodia

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Hello there ColaXtra! I wouldn't recommend using the text as you have currently structured it, because as it stands, it simply comprises of a direct quote from John Pilger. What would be better was to rewrite this in your own words, and back it up not only with the Pilger reference, but with other reliable references too, particularly those from academic sources. Best. Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:26, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No worries; that History of Cambodia page is a terrible mess. It really needs to be re-written by an expert from scratch from the looks of it. If you are a specialist in Cambodia then I'd give you my full support if you decided to take it on... Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:29, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for info about Holodomor etymology

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ColaXtra wrote:

Was wondering if you felt like adding this to the etymology section? Up to you.

"In the USSR, where historians, even after 1956, could speak only of 'food difficulties', the use of the very word ''golod''/''holod'' (hunger, famine) was forbidden. In Ukraine it was uttered officially for the first time in December 1987, in First Secretary Volodymyr Shcherbytskyi's speech celebrating the republic's seventieth anniversary."<ref>{{cite journal |last= Graziosi |first= Andrea |year= 2004–2005 |title= The Soviet 1931–1933 Famines and the Ukrainian Holodomor: Is a New Interpretation Possible, and What Would Its Consequences Be? |journal= [[Harvard Ukrainian Studies]] |volume= 27 |issue= 1–4 |pages= 97–115 |jstor= 41036863 }}</ref>

ColaXtra (talk) 20:57, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great idea. I have incorporated into the article on Holodomor. Actually, took the opportunity to rewrite the etymology section, with better subject grouping and more historical context. Thanks for the info!

Molly-in-md (talk) 17:28, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the Resilient Barnstar !

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Well, the title says it all really! Much appreciated fellow Londoner! Midnightblueowl (talk) 15:02, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Request for help on Holocaust article

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I would like to help in giving it a try even though I have learned over the years that it is a minefield as the world if full of competing agendas and POVs. Let me reflect a little on it. I think that I might might begin with paragraph 2 of the lede which is problematic because the reference is speculative rather than definitional and leads to the shopping list in section 4.2. Let me also mention my appreciation all the donkey work you have done on the references even if it will take me some time to get used to them.--Joel Mc (talk) 11:18, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Genocide VS Massacre : Is there a big difference ?

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Sayyed Bastami (talk)

Genocide : the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. Massacre : the unnecessary, indiscriminate killing of a large number of human beings or animals, as in barbarous warfare or persecution or for revenge or plunder.

In the case of MKO in Iran between 1980-1988, it was a genocide. So please stop deleting my post.

ColaXtra (talk) 20:19, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is all the difference in the world. It is not up to you to define genocide and massacre; it is not up to you to interpret the Genocide Convention. It is not up to me either, else the majority of the article would be cut out. How ridiculous, for example, to have things like Sabra and Shatila described as "genocide". What you need is a decent source to describe the killing in Iran as a genocide. That is the issue.

Sayyed Bastami (talk)

I don't know how many rial (iranian currency) the Iranian Government is giving you to hide and delete a truth but you seriously need to check out your mental health. Just put your glasses on your nose and read this !
It is defined in Article 2 of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (CPPCG) of 1948 as "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the groups conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."
MKO is a national Iranian group !
One more thing We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sayyed Bastami (talkcontribs) 22:53, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am finding it increasingly difficult to take you seriously. ColaXtra (talk) 23:31, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Same here. I am waiting when you will delete the post on Sabra and Shatila because you said "How ridiculous, for example, to have things like Sabra and Shatila described as "genocide"." Funny guy. Sayyed Bastami (talk)
You're missing the point completely: Sabra and Shatila has a decent source that describes it as "genocide"; your effort doesn't. Hence Sabra-Shatila can stay on the article, whilst your suggestion has to vanish. ColaXtra (talk) 01:41, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Editing The Holocaust

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Can you believe it, I finally did a draft of the first paras yesterday and found you edits this morning. I have given brief explainations on The Holocaust talk page. I hope that you don't mind. Happy to discuss and of course nothing is written in stone. As you can see, I have not really mastered the new (to me) reference format.Joel Mc (talk) 16:42, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, no worries at all! Let's go with yours. I can always throw my little snippet in a footnote or something later if I feel like it! All my very best wishes, Joel. ColaXtra (talk) 17:16, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I added a number of refs to major historians who are in the biblio who use the proper noun in the titles of their books which I hope lays to rest issue which keeps getting raised over and over. But as you can see I have screwed up the {sf|} reference. If you don't mind correcting it I will see how it is done.--Joel Mc (talk) 12:25, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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Hello, ColaXtra. You have new messages at Dennis Brown's talk page.
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the paper you mentioned at Marco Polo article

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Please see the Talk Page there - thanks.HammerFilmFan (talk) 11:35, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Economy of the Soviet Union

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OK, sure, no problem - I'll help you... The article needs work.. Question, why me of all users?? :)

Good enough for me :) --TIAYN (talk) 13:03, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

ColaXtra (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

I'm not looking to get unblocked, but I've no other way of communicating. Can you confirm that my block is purely for socking, and not for violating community rules like 3RR or anything else? Look at my talk above: so much praise and gratitude accumulated in such a short space of time shows you what a good boy I've been. And look at the donkey work on the Holocaust article! That wasn't fun, I can tell you. Shame no one saw fit to give me a Minor Barnstar, but ah well.

Notice on Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Complaint_about_user_TheTimesAreAChanging TheTimesAreAChanging makes yet another deceitful claim (he'd previously accused me of using a "fabricated" quote that was sourced to a Yale professor Ben Kiernan—no admission of guilt, no apology from him, even after he backtracked) that "ColaXtra already admitted he was trolling by deleting his own edits". I most certainly did no such thing: I deleted my additions because I was utterly sick of his appalling attitude (something he's never expressed any regret for) and wanted to wash my hands of him and my involvement in the article; you can check easily enough I made no further edits to the article, and wandered off to start improving Economy of the Soviet Union. Point is, the bit about my "admitting" I was a troll is sheer fabrication. How is the guy allowed to continue editing when I originally got banned for my persistent incivility and slanging matches? Have you seen some of his edit summaries??

Anyway, I'm thinking of applying to get my original permanent ban undone—though, I won't bother contesting my permanent ban from Israel–Palestine—and I think it would go in my favour if I can show that I now keep to the rules. Look at my talk page: it's beautiful! Look at my edit history: it's beautiful! Always RS, always constructive! Ah, well. ColaXtra (talk) 15:49, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

If you're "not looking to get unblocked", well then I won't. As for your block, what does the notice above say? — Daniel Case (talk) 15:56, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Besides, {{adminhelp}} or {{helpme}} are both useful methods of communicating, depending on what type of a response you require - or, indeed, if you don't abuse it. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 16:12, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, OK! Thanks for that! Saves me having to needlessly annoy people with unblock requests that don't request an unblock. ColaXtra (talk) 17:12, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]