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Te Rapa Co-generation
Hi CoderThomasB, I have found several useful sources in newspaper articles available through Pro-Quest. I am able to login to ProQuest for free, using my Wellington City Libraries card details. Hopefully, you may have a library that also provides access to Pro-quest. If you can't get access to ProQuest, please get back to me and I will see if I can help. Here is what I have found so far. Some of these are more background about the dairy factory, but many deal directly with the Co-gen plant:
- 23 August 1997
- 25 August 1997
- 24 September 1997
- 27 November 1997
- 19 December 1997
- 9 August 1999
- 20 Sep 1999
- 10 March 2000
- 13 March 2000
- 24 April 2003
- 16 Jan 2007
The content about the dairy factory in the article Te Rapa could be expanded using some of the sources above, if you are keen. I will keep looking for different sources and get back to you later in the week, hopefully :) Marshelec (talk) 02:20, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! Unfortunately, I can't seam to access those articles using my Christchurch library card.
- But I have added a little bit more to the Article about Fonterra's consent to set up an auxiliary boiler that is used when the cogeneration plant isn't operating. CoderThomasB (talk) 10:33, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- It appears I can download them from ProQuest as PDF's so I will put them into a folder in OneDrive that I will share with you.Marshelec (talk) 19:00, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- See if you can access the shared folder of PDFs I downloaded here: [1]. However, I have found that you can access ProQuest using the Wikipedia library. :) Go to the Wikipedia library here: [2] (I suggest you save this link where you can find it again) . Just login with your Wikipedia credentials, then you can access multiple subscription databases, including ProQuest. Once you are in ProQuest, you will be able to find the sources I have listed (and others no doubt). Please get back to me to let me know how you get on. Note that when using a cite web template for a source that requires a subscription, you should include |url-access=subscription| into the citation....Marshelec (talk) 19:54, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- I have just searched again in ProQuest using the search terms Te Papa Cogeneration, and got 40 hits. These includes several useful looking responses that are additional to those in the list above. Another point about citing these sources: it is recommended to add |via=ProQuest| in the citation...Marshelec (talk) 20:03, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you! I'll get to work on using those articles. Your suggestion about the Wikipedia library works, and I am able to access those articles and search ProQuest! CoderThomasB (talk) 20:07, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Great stuff. One observation is that the Fonterra plant is so significant in national terms that it warrants its own article - separate from Te Rapa. I recommend a split, leaving behind a brief summmary in the Te Rapa article, with a MAIN template. See WP:SUMMARY and WP:SPLIT. Are you interested in taking that on ? Marshelec (talk) 21:13, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'll have a read through of those guidelines and maybe consult with Schwede66, but I do think that is a sensible thing to do. I'll look into it once I have added what I want to add to the Te Rapa Co-generation article. CoderThomasB (talk) 22:32, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sure. I am happy to help out with guidance about the proposed splitting, but it is a good learning experience to do it yourself, if you have not done this before. Note that a split as proposed is not controversial, and does not warrant consultation on the talk pages. You can just go ahead and do it when you are ready. Marshelec (talk) 22:50, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'll have a read through of those guidelines and maybe consult with Schwede66, but I do think that is a sensible thing to do. I'll look into it once I have added what I want to add to the Te Rapa Co-generation article. CoderThomasB (talk) 22:32, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Great stuff. One observation is that the Fonterra plant is so significant in national terms that it warrants its own article - separate from Te Rapa. I recommend a split, leaving behind a brief summmary in the Te Rapa article, with a MAIN template. See WP:SUMMARY and WP:SPLIT. Are you interested in taking that on ? Marshelec (talk) 21:13, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you! I'll get to work on using those articles. Your suggestion about the Wikipedia library works, and I am able to access those articles and search ProQuest! CoderThomasB (talk) 20:07, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- I have just searched again in ProQuest using the search terms Te Papa Cogeneration, and got 40 hits. These includes several useful looking responses that are additional to those in the list above. Another point about citing these sources: it is recommended to add |via=ProQuest| in the citation...Marshelec (talk) 20:03, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- See if you can access the shared folder of PDFs I downloaded here: [1]. However, I have found that you can access ProQuest using the Wikipedia library. :) Go to the Wikipedia library here: [2] (I suggest you save this link where you can find it again) . Just login with your Wikipedia credentials, then you can access multiple subscription databases, including ProQuest. Once you are in ProQuest, you will be able to find the sources I have listed (and others no doubt). Please get back to me to let me know how you get on. Note that when using a cite web template for a source that requires a subscription, you should include |url-access=subscription| into the citation....Marshelec (talk) 19:54, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- It appears I can download them from ProQuest as PDF's so I will put them into a folder in OneDrive that I will share with you.Marshelec (talk) 19:00, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
