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WikiProject Greater Manchester January Newsletter, Issue XIII

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Mill images!

Wow! Some of the images of cotton mills you've been adding are incredible! Just wanted to thank you for taking the time out to scan these for Wikipedia - I imagine making that many scans was quite painstaking!

I "upgraded" the page relating to Image:Rutland Mill, Shaw 0018.png, providing full description, and a fair-use rationale (although I'm not entirely sure that this licencing arrangement needs fair use rationales). I've done this so as not to upset the copyright police. I'm pretty confident that the others will need at least the description part on their pages too, but, if you want to copy and paste the Rutland Mill page and amend as appropriate it shouldn't be too much of a task (I'll try and do a few myself too).

Once again thanks for taking the time out to add these wonderful photographs! --Jza84 |  Talk  13:56, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello there! Thanks for the reply!

Yes, your distance from the region did strike me as odd (in the nicest possible way of course!). The cotton industry seems only to have parochial interest. Of course I live in deepest cotton country (even worked in a cotton mill once), and the impact on this region is undervalued beyond belief, even right here in Greater Manchester. I have a copy of Gurr, Duncan; Hunt, Julian (1998), The Cotton Mills of Oldham, Oldham Education & Leisure, ISBN 0-902809-46-6 which may help with the work you're putting together. I've always intended on buying this book to compliment this one that I own - if I get time this fortnight I might dig up a couple of bites for the Lancs Cotton Corp list you're compiling. There's also something here of use.

I didn't know if you wanted to use your scanned images or the more modern colour ones - I have no preference (although the mixture looks good I think!). There are loads more images at this commons category I started earlier this month. User:Peteb16 might be worth a shout; he compiled the List of mills in Shaw and Crompton. --Jza84 |  Talk  02:44, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

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Cotton Mills

These are outside my area of expertise I'm afraid. Can possibly assist with some technical info re waterwheels where they were used (Quarry Mill, Styal, for example) to ensure that details are correct, but that's about it. Mjroots (talk) 17:38, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

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Non-free images

Hi there, I saw your note to JZA84. You could try {{Non-free fair use in}} to list the articles you want to use each image in. Then for each article include a {{Non-free use rationale}} for each individual article. This should stop you being ravaged by bots. However, each non-free use rationale must be filled in e.g. purpose - to illustrate a historic building that is no longer existent - is, I think a valid non-free use rationale. You will then only be plagued by human pedants until you finally get it right with something that everyone can live with. Generally, it is better to use images more than 70 years old - they should be out of copyright. HTH Kbthompson (talk) 11:29, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello there! I think Kbthompson's advice is best - it's how I would tackle this. Don't fret, I'll try and help where I can! --Jza84 |  Talk  11:54, 29 January 2009 (UTC)