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Vladimir Horowitz
[edit]Your recent edit to Vladimir Horowitz has been reverted. Please see this discussion [1] as to how the matter was settled. In short, although Kiev is part of Ukraine, at the time of Horowitz's birth, Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire.THD3 (talk) 19:16, 2 September 2009 (UTC) 17:28, 2 September 2009 (UTC) I do appreciate your re-directing me to this page.I learn this discussion carefully.It is correct that in the life-time of Vladimir Horowitz,there were repressions for Ukrainian (as well as Yiddish)language. About the nation issue I will be grateful for any your opinion about this question:Is any nation who lived on the lands of former Roman Empire should be called as "Romans"? Does anyone who was born on the territory of Ukraine before 1991 should consider himself as Russian? I personally was born in Kiev before 1991,should I call myself as a Russian or a Soviet pianist instead of Ukrainian? Thank you for your opinion in advance. I would also suggest to place the full description (as He was born in Kiev,Russian Empire,now the capital of Ukraine...etc,)instead of Russian-born,in order to close the discussion.
- Please try to understand that the Horowitz page has been the subject of edit wars by both Russian and Ukranian partisans changing the article to suit their biases. The subject was then discussed at length on the article's talk page. Please, before you make any more edits, let's hash this out on the talk page and the decision was made to go with "Russian-born American". Also, I must point out that as a new editor with a limited edit history, it is even more incumbent upon you to back up your edits with reliable sources.THD3 (talk) 13:39, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
"The point of WIKIPEDIA is a method of following self-thought one after another, make one drifts in stream of ideas which, eventually take a conic shape: what seemingly started as random thoughts will end as a tip of the cone: the ultimate idea." I asked abstract questions because the question here is 'How completely does it solve the problem?' A totally useful solution solves the problem completely--and does not create any new ones.The article is not completely about yours or mine favourite pianist,it is also responsibility about the mention the city Kiev and Ukrainian history which belongs to millions of Ukrainians,not only as a place of birth of great pianist Vladimir Horowitz. First of all genius of Horowitz belongs to the whole world and it was perfectly expressed by Master himself:"My face is my passport". That fact that there is not much information in Internet about Ukraine ,only indicates that Ukraine is a young country with 18 years of independence.The terms of Russian Empire and Russia are different in the determination.I respect Russian music and culture. Here are some links i could find in this short term for Horowitz: Renowned among the greatest pianists of all time, Vladimir Horowitz was born on October 1, 1903 in the Ukraine © All Music Guide
http://www.last.fm/group/Vladimir+Horowitz
http://www.imeem.com/groups/EU-TkVwa,vladimir-horowitz
http://twitter.com/PianistHorowitz
search system:http://www.mahalo.com/vladimir-horowitz
P.S.I have my reasons for this discussion because i had a great luck and honour to study with his sister Reghina Horowitz,in the Kharkov Conservatiore(now The Kharkov State University of Arts)and there were a great drama in her life,when she was separated with her brother,and in private conversations she indicated Soviet regime as reasons for it ,because at her opinion,He would never express His talent and artistic value of His genius and the frames of Soviet regime(she had never meant about homosexuality,which would be panished by 25 years in prison in those times)and freedom He received with American citizenship.We should understand what inviroment and outside frames means for self-expression for an artist.
(ClassicalMusica (talk) 15:27, 3 September 2009 (UTC))
- Thank you for your contributions. I've replied on the article's talk page and made a further change to the opening paragraph. I'd love to hear more about your studies with Horowitz's sister. I'd heard he got the flat fingered technique from her. If you want to message me personally, check out my talk page: [2]THD3 (talk) 15:50, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, that's very interesting. I had instinctively used the flat-fingered technique before I ever saw Horowitz play. But I vividly recall being surprised by his low seat position when I saw a video of him playing. I tried it and it immediately eliminated some back problems I'd been having.THD3 (talk) 17:36, 6 September 2009 (UTC)Yes,I think that first of all the outside position goes from inner sensitivity and necessarities in that position.It is impossible just to copy that,it appears as a result both of complex vision and expression of that vision in music .ClassicalMusica (talk) 18:52, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Categories: Music competitions prize-winners
[edit]Hello! Several categories related to music competition winners are being targetted, and I think it would be useful that you give your opinion regarding the neccesity (or not) of these categories and maybe later help proposing changes to the present guidelines (music awards and prizes). The categories proposed for deletion are #Category:Prize-winners of the Leeds International Pianoforte Competition, #category:Prize-winners of the Paloma O'Shea Piano Competition, #Category:Operalia, #Category:Ferruccio Busoni International Piano Competition and #Category:Prize-winners of the Besançon Conducting Competition. Cheers.--Karljoos (talk) 17:54, 11 January 2010 (UTC)