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A barnstar for you!

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	I admire your patience and civility in the discussions re the Hollywood Canteen, and especially your scrutiny of and adherence to reliable sources. Schazjmd (talk) 23:51, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Pictures for Academy Award lists

Hi, I recently noticed that you added a picture within the last month or so for every acting winner at the Academy Award lists for Best Actor, Actress, Supporting Actor, and Supporting Actress using Template:Multiple image. I find this formatting terrible for narrow screens, as it now forces all of the images to appear before the lists, which means a reader has to scroll almost halfway down the page to see the actual lists. Admittedly, this was an issue with the existing formatting, but using every winner makes it much more apparent. Before causing any dispute, I wanted to run an alternate past you: split the galleries by decade and put them at the start of each section, possibly adding the perrow parameter to show two side by side to further reducing long scrolling periods. Thoughts? RunningTiger123 (talk) 05:22, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @RunningTiger123, thanks for opening up a civil discussion with me right from the get-go. Much appreciated. Narrow screens meaning mobiles like cell phones and/or tablets? I've only been using a laptop lately, due to being my grandmother's home caretaker. I meant to actually check my inactive cell, just to compare the Wiki-app version, and then also the web version on Safari/Chrome on both phone/tablet, but it's been such a busy holiday season, it became an oversight. However, I can understand and appreciate the dilemma.

The main reason I initially moved all of the pictures in the first place back in the summer was to get rid of that atrocious white space issue caused by letting the pics be placed per decade. Plus, isn't there the table of contents to skip past all of that? And it's not collapsible?

However, this perrow parameter could work. AND what might be cool about it as well is instead of having 1 picture for multiple wins per person (main ex. Katharine Hepburn), we can now do per each win. Thus each blurb can be unique and custom to that win/film/performance for whatever reason. I'm just not too familiar with perrow, so I don't want to agree with using it just yet without testing it out first.

Could you explain to me exactly how perrow works? Is it like those galleries? Or would it still be in a sidebar hanging format? Let's do a little experimentation or trial run before committing to the idea. Sound good? --Cinemaniac86^Talk_Stalk 13:59, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, I don't have experience with perrow outside of reading the documentation. I can test out a version within the next few days and try it on both desktop and mobile – it'll be good to check the latter since the collapsible sections only apply to top-level headings and the decade lists are in subheadings. Also, if we want to add details to the blurbs that aren't directly sourced from the tables, they'll need to be referenced. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:13, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've started testing my idea here. I've split the galleries by decade and shortened the captions, but perrow=2 causes issues when there is an odd number of images (the last image spans the full gallery width). It also makes the gallery pretty wide relative to the table in the Vector 2022 default width. So maybe the best solution is just splitting up the images without that parameter – but I'm open to suggestions. RunningTiger123 (talk) 18:13, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, sorry for the belated reply. Oh, life.

To be honest, I think it looks utterly dreadful. The desktop view is a nightmare of gigantic gaps between decade charts of whitespace. I don't think this is the appropriate solution. (But I appreciate your effort.)

I just took a glance at my mobile app for the first time in a while. Scrolling past that barrage of images isn't really that bad, imo. It rolls by quickly; but as aforementioned, the 'button' on the side to pull-up table of contents can easily bypass the images right to the winners & nominees section.

The other option, like you said, would be splitting-up images without that parameter or the current one either. Let's say, for instance, the 1930s winds-up with the final image, Donat, ending the parade on the sidebar earlier than 1939. But the '40s, if left as usual, would overflow. What I had modified originally was to place the top picture at the bottom of the previous decade just to help it look good on both desktop and mobile. It's still not that far away from its own set of years on mobile to matter.

And then, I just thought of something yesterday/last night. What about doing a ~Gallery~ section? Not sure if that would fly. We'd have to propose such a radical alteration. But figured I'd share the thought. --Cinemaniac86^Talk_Stalk 16:19, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, a gallery is one option. But if breaking up the images is too much, I think it would be better to reduce the number of images again. Might even be helpful to reduce it to only "important" winners, i.e., people who won multiple times or achieved a significant first by winning. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:52, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Belle & Sebastian ~ Spotify

"Me and the Major" "You're Just a Baby" "A Century of Fakers" "Marx and Angels" "She's Losing It" "String Bean Jean" "Chickfactor" "I Fought a War" "Mayfly" "Oceans in the Hall" - The Ladybug Transistor "I Just Want Your Jeans" - Stuart/Hannah --Cinemaniac86^Talk_Stalk 20:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for the correction, I was looking at the International and Primetime Emmys as separate things and didn't make the mental connection. Even so, her 2018 Tony win only put her one month shy of the record! :D Thanks again Nevermore27 (talk) 20:59, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bette Davis

Hi! I see that you fought bias against Davis by certain users. I've removed a section which was added by MonicaAng to the Davis article which was largely speculative and actually implied Davis killed her husband (!). I was surprised this piece of WP:OR, gossip magazine junk was on that article for quite some time, but all of a sudden a new user came up and restored it. I invite you to take part in the talk page discussion, if you have an opinion about that. Shahid • ^Talk2me 10:29, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh! Yes, that user was an absolute menace. You should read the talk page history on Hollywood Canteen. I literally did a deep dive for a week during my free time on that GenealogyBank (same source pool of hers) to obliterate the OR, and even then, the indignation in the face of facts. Apparently everyone in Hollywood bent over backwards to misconstrue the proper story. Hilarious. Since I was fighting a battle alone, I raised hell as best I could indignantly, and thankfully the article is as close to accurate as possible I think? One day though, it ought to be reexamined with enough support to have the true "Davis/Garfield discussing and contemplating the foundation at the Warner Bros. green room" origin story implanted in the beginning and the lede. For now though, small potatoes. Sorry, I had to rant. Thank you for taking notice of my efforts!

And yes, I forgot about that! I found that amusing, albeit preposterous. But since I was in the midst of my own brouhaha, her article's various problems slipped my mind. So glad you are taking notice! Are there any others, or is that the only other problem you've noticed? I think I corrected the Canteen section properly. Maybe just take a cursory glance to make sure the POV doesn't have any vitriolic implications. It is quite obvious they were submitted from the wrath of a crazed Crawford devotee. Thanks for the heads-up as well. I shall head on over there! --Cinemaniac86^Talk_Stalk 15:31, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can't believe you had to deal with this nonsense. I came across the article of Davis by chance a few days ago. I remember the hard work put into it by my wikifriend, long retired User:Rossrs, and I was shocked by what it had turned into. Rossrs has been a very inspiring figure in my own work on several actor FAs (from India). The lead had apparently been blanked before by someone and different users had since improvised little by little additons until it ended up being the uninspiring chunk of details it was. Her honours by the AFI were removed. And this astonishing block of speculation re her husband was shocking. To find out that much of that was done by users who worked on the Crawford article where they blanked some negative commentary there was a rather amusing revelation. Is it really what some people waste their time doing? I have to say I like them both quite a lot, and I can't believe there are people who still engage in this fancruft. And almost a century later! It just doesn't make sense to me.

Now I see similar things on the Hollywood Canteen article. Thanks for letting me know. I demand that the names of Davis and the other founders be restored. I have started a new topic on the talk page, and clearly there's consensus against the removal that happened a few months ago. Shahid • ^Talk2me 21:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, what a joy it was all alone too. The AFI I believe can easily be reconstructed, or has it been already? Yes, and it's funny how easily it went unnoticed. I made a report, but it was kinda bemusedly referred to as WikiFeud: Bette vs. Joan, which made me laugh too, can't deny! It's not about that for me; I am a fan of Joan too. Bette is one of my top faves, but Joan is a great actress too. Humoresque I just saw for the first time recently, and it was riveting. And coincidentally, lol, stars John Garfield! How ironic.

It's really dumb for fans to engage in the same feuds of celebs of yesteryear. Let's embrace them all. Appreciate everyone. It's not difficult. Some overdo it, hence where the word "crazed" comes in, which I was chastised for below. But as I hopefully clarified, in the context of edits back then, from around like May or June of 2022 I think it was from the user (you'll see on that page's history), and notice where it got out of hand. She and I did make a good phrasing compromise, where I felt comfortable in how it attributed primary credit to Bette and John, while acknowledging the others' assistance in their construction. My only dismay was the lack of them meeting up in the green room of WB. That was dismissed as "gossip", but if there's enough reputable book proof of that, and we get consensus to include that, that would be the icing on the cake.

In any event, I do appreciate that you're taking an initiative on contesting sketchy inclusions based upon gossip and hearsay, because it's exhausting. As long as we don't canvass, that's all. --Cinemaniac86^Talk_Stalk 19:28, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I actually pinged you on the Hollywood Canteen talk page. I want the info re David and Garfield put back in the lead. I've provided a brief source overview. Consensus is to readd that, for sure. Shahid • ^Talk2me 15:41, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you understand the irony of you bemoaning anyone saying something negative about DB whilst referring to anyone who doesn't agree with JC bashing as 'crazed'. Pot...kettle...black.... 94.173.227.182 (talk) 07:48, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You misread or misinterpreted that statement. None of that prior brouhaha had anything to do with any JC articles or issues; they all had to do with BD-related articles, phrasing, and almost specifically with the Hollywood Canteen and its establishment.

The difference is I like both actresses. I was not coming after JC at any point, trying to discredit factual information about her. But several editors alluded in the track record of this editor that they had an immense bias in trying to erase anything negative about JC in her articles, while diminishing accomplishments by BD. So it's not nearly the same. --Cinemaniac86^Talk_Stalk 19:02, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I saw that edit too and was about to change that, bro had me lookin through all of the live show episodes again for Season 16 and I saw Kris Pooley each time. Although there was some sources that said Rickey was returning but I guess it all changed like months later or something. But thank you for editing that lol. TypicallyRyan (talk) 21:16, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, no problem. Yeah, when people do those kinds of edits with such brazen confidence, they get me questioning my sanity, like, "Did I just invent what I thought was correct/real this entire time?" Only to find out nawwwww.

I was gonna put this crazy rambling edit summary, but it's better as a talk page: Peggi SING DAMNIT Blu <3 altering her as "guest vocal coach", since she was only in Vegas/Hollywood rounds; prob. need the McPhees now.

I wanted to include Michael Orland originally, but he had no article. Since Kieran is there, we'll include Michael. I'm gonna post a video for that person, Maddie Poppe's "The Bare Necessities". Cute performance (I love Maddie, and fuck them for prioritizing Gabby), but it shows Orland in rehearsal, then Pooley on stage. Perfect proof. --Cinemaniac86^Talk_Stalk 21:27, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No yeah that person had me confused too. But our only goal is to try and not add as many people on the table lol. But Michael would be a fine addition to add into it I think. Also Peggi I think was a guest vocal coach now that I think about it. Also the McPhee's too. But yeah you can add whatever you want to it lol. TypicallyRyan (talk) 21:33, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, yeah, I definitely agree about curbing it there. Like if we add Felicia/Allison as background vocalists, then we gotta add every other Idol alumni guest mentor, then all the guest judges, and nah.

So after Michael, I'd say only for consistency, Peisha took over from Debra/Peggi (Peggi might have been lead in s11, I'm not 100% sure, it was really the Jimmy show haha which I preferred) Man I miss season 11, best season ever. Joshua was my fave that season, then Phillip and Jessica and Elise. Loved Skylar, DeAndre, Colton, Erika, Hollie.....So yeah, pretty much got everything I wanted that season lmao. Too bad Joshua's like batshit crazy now. Have you seen his Twitter?!

Sorry, rambling off..And then Adriana took over from mom after COVID I guess.I'll try to verify that later. --Cinemaniac86^Talk_Stalk 21:43, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No you’re fine lol, you can ramble as much as you need to. But I haven’t checked Josh’s tweets in ages. But I’ll look at them in a second though. But yeah adding all the other miscellaneous cast members would just be too much lol. TypicallyRyan (talk) 22:21, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So, this Hzh kid decided to remove some of the cast from the timeline for american idol. I'm going to add Peggi back on, but I'm not sure if I should keep the lighting directors on there. TypicallyRyan (talk) 21:03, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I noticed. I think it was stupid to omit them, just because they don't have a page or maybe weren't mentioned on the show much. So I'll back you up on that if you wanna restore them all.

Except Michael Orland received camera time consistently throughout 16 seasons. Peggi Blu was introduced both times in Hollywood/Las Vegas. (Once per each.)

And the lighting directors are never seen, but are referenced to—unless Ryan introduced them physically, which he might have on a results night.

OH btw. One day, I would like to try to add a few notable names to the American Idol infobox. The alumni they have is questionable. Why are Catie Turner and Monogem there but Anoop Desai not? Makes no sense, since Anoop has an acting career now too. But I just want a plan. Because you look at the disgusting The Voice infobox? It's insanity, they literally include everyone with their own page? I wanna nominate that for deletion or something just to clear that junk out of there, lmao. I just need to know the proper place to nominate it for cleanup (not necessarily deletion). --Cinemaniac86^Talk_Stalk 00:48, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for that lol. But yeah some people shown behind the scenes like Michael O were shown in some contestants rehersal packages or hollywood week. Lighting directors yeah they weren't really shown during the live shows but Ryan did post about Kieran in the initial series finale on his instagram (I noticed that post like maybe a month ago lol). He hasn't introduced tom on his insta or the idol insta but has mentioned him for the results though. But I think adding the notable names miiiight be a bit too much honestly. You could always add them like somewhere further down the page but adding them to the cast, it might be a bit too much imo. I also think the same for the voice, havin all those notables on there is too much. TypicallyRyan (talk) 16:42, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I also added Peggi as a regular vocal coach just incase he tries deleting it again and I also do think she was a regular vocal coach. I'm not entirely sure but I think she was shown a lot more during the season 11 episodes of hollywood week and season 10 too, I could be wrong but I'm just making a guess at this rate lol. TypicallyRyan (talk) 16:49, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wait for the voice were you talking about the notables that were featured for the finals of each season, or something else I'm not sure lol. TypicallyRyan (talk) 17:00, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welp, he just changed it back to the older table because he didn't agree with our edits. Now I have to ask permission before I can change it to the newer table again. (sorry for all the rambling) TypicallyRyan (talk) 17:14, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, thanks for being so civil about the deletion. I appreciate it! In all honesty, I'm very new to Wikipedia editing (especially compared to your 18 years, lol) so I'm not sure where else they could be inserted in the relevant article. Lead the way if you're still interested! Karmapolisedinburgh (talk) 04:09, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Karmapolis! I'm sorry for the delayed reply. You're welcome! Don't be too impressed—there was a massive gap in between 2010-ish and 2020-ish, haha. But I'm getting the hang of things these past couple of years. I definitely will figure out some way to approach this. So are you a big film/Oscar buff?

I am too, from silents/classics, 60s/70s, through modern/indie stuff. And as insane as it sounds, I literally have the four acting categories memorized. The rest, not so much, but maybe one day, haha. Eidetic memory = you rewrite or look at lists long enough, and they imprint in your brain. Very useful when you haven't studied for your quizzes in school, haha.

So anyway, this year and last year were chaotic years with family stuff, but I'm hoping to catch up with films this year. Have you been following/predicting this year? Also, let me know if you need any help or have any Wikipedia questions. Talk to you soon, James. --Cinemaniac86^Talk_Stalk 00:54, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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