User talk:Chzz/Kridsadaporn

So instead of typing:

Example 1
Kridsadaporn (กฤษฏาพร, กฤษดาพร) is a Thai name comprising two words; "kridsada" (กฤษฏา) of Sanskrit origin and sometimes Romanized as gritsada, kritsada and often kruetsada however, Thai script rules for Sanskrit borrow-words vowels transcribe it as "krisada", (กฤษดา) while retaining the meaning, "kridsada" (กฤษฏา) {supernatural powers, divine, celestial} References {{reflist}}

I can simply type:

Example 2
Kridsadaporn (กฤษฏาพร, กฤษดาพร) is a Thai name comprising two words; "kridsada" (กฤษฏา)of Sanskrit origin and sometimes Romanized as gritsada, kritsada and often kruetsada however, Thai script rules for Sanskrit borrow-words vowels transcribe it as "krisada", (กฤษดา) while retaining the meaning, "kridsada" (กฤษฏา) {supernatural powers, divine, celestial} References {{reflist}}

Hope you can comment upon this, please.

So what about the http://www.thai2english.com/dictionary/supernatural.html website used for translation - is this the same as google/translate and not regarded as a suitable reference. ??

Thanks again for your help and I hope you can help just a fraction kore so that things become more clear to me. --NehruR42 15:02, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

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The problem I am having is:In my Draft subpage are two (2) in-line reference numbers 8 and 10 which are giving me some trouble. After the statement "kridsada" (กฤษฏา)[8] and "krisada" (กฤษดา)[10] I include into the |url= ..... part of the reference template the web address where I located the supporting details. The problem is though that when I go to test that reference in the Reference List, the address that I get is not the same as the address that I saved at |url= For example: The address I put into |url=http://xxPart1xxyyPart2yy Then upon going to that reference once the article has been saved and assembled, I get the web address http://xxpart1xx (but part 2 has been cut-off - I get only the first part of the address saved at |url= The address is a google/translate address. The actual problem is demostrated below - that is, the addresses that are included in |url= ..... and the address that is retrieved after saving are not the same. "kridsada" (กฤษฏา)[1] "krisada" (กฤษดา)[2] [edit] References1.^ "Thai<>English Dictionary". Google.translate.co.th. http://translate.google.co.th/translate_t?hl=th&q=%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A4%E0%B8%A9%E0%B8%8E%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%A3&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wT#th. 2.^ "Thai<>English Dictionary". Google.translate.co.th. http://translate.google.co.th/translate_t?hl=th&q=%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A4%E0%B8%A9%E0%B8%8E%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%A3&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wT#th. [edit] NoteThe actual address that is retrieved when activating those links are: For krisdada http://translate.google.co.th/translate_t?hl=th&q=%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A4%E0%B8%A9%E0%B8%8E%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%A3&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wT#th NOT THE REQUIRED http://translate.google.co.th/translate_t?hl=th&q=%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A4%E0%B8%A9%E0%B8%8E%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%A3&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wT#th%7Cen%7C%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A4%E0%B8%A9%E0%B8%8F%E0%B8%B2 this immediate above address was the one included in the reference template at |url= AND For kridsada http://translate.google.co.th/translate_t?hl=th&q=%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A4%E0%B8%A9%E0%B8%8E%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%A3&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wT#th NOT THE REQUIRED http://translate.google.co.th/translate_t?hl=th&q=%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A4%E0%B8%A9%E0%B8%8E%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%A3&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wT#th%7Cen%7C%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A4%E0%B8%A9%E0%B8%8F%E0%B8%B2 this immediate above address was the one included in the reference template at |url= I am not expert in the way those Thai characters are represented, but I notice that in each case the first character after the point where the address is truncated is "%7C". I know that web addresses terminate at the first space, e.g. when you write Google search page to get Google search page, the space after "uk/" is what tells the system that this is the end of the URL, so that where there is a space within a URL it is necessary to replace it with an underscore character "_". I think it's probable that something similar here is happening here: see if you can find some neutral character to replace "%7C". If that doesn't give you a solution, replace the "helpme." JohnCD (talk) 11:29, 15 April 2011 (UTC) The problem is due to the pipe symbols | in the URL; those can't be used; you have to URLencode them as %7C, so; "Thai<>English Dictionary". Google.translate.co.th. "Thai<>English Dictionary". Google.translate.co.th. http://translate.google.co.th/translate_t?hl=th&q=%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A4%E0%B8%A9%E0%B8%8E%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%A3&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wT#th%7cen%7c%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A4%E0%B8%A9%E0%B8%8F%E0%B8%B2. ...so that works. But, as the other said - there is no point, because we would never use that as a reference in a Wikipedia article. It is not an appropriate reliable source, and we do not use Google to translate things - we cite the original language, and the reader can translate if they want. Chzz ► 11:44, 15 April 2011 (UTC) Kridsadaporn (กฤษฏาพร, กฤษดาพร) is a Thai name comprising two words; "kridsada" (กฤษฏา) of Sanskrit origin and sometimes Romanized as gritsada, kritsada and often kruetsada however, Thai script rules for Sanskrit borrow-words vowels transcribe it as "krisada", (กฤษดา) while retaining the meaning, "kridsada" (กฤษฏา) {supernatural powers, divine, celestial} and, "porn" (พร) [blessing, benediction, favor] and when used with Thai first names is meant as, "a blessing from the Buddha" for both, the gift of a child, and, the favor of particular attributes, referred to within the name, manifesting within the child. Many Thai first names are suffixed with พร pronounced as "phaawn", transliterated using the Royal Thai General System as "phon" however, variations in translation methods sometimes result in it being Romanized as "pon" - in which case an "r" is often added for a truer phonetic approximation.