User talk:Churchofgod

License tagging for Image:COG PIC.jpg

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Again, welcome! delldot | talk 04:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I'm glad to help. What do you need help with, tagging images? (I'm actually not the one that posted that message, I only posted the welcome message, but that's fine). Did you have a look at the pages linked to in the message with the top link? Do you happen to know the copyright status of the image you uploaded (e.g. whether it's in the public domain, or who holds the copyright?) Let me have a look at the image in question, and I'll see if I can figure out what needs to be done. If you have a specific thing you need help with let me know. THanks for contributing! Don't worry, it'll get worked out soon. Peace, delldot | talk 04:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, if you took the picture yourself, you can agree to release it under the GFDL which would allow pretty much anyone to use and distribute it so there's not a copyright problem.

Also, not to bring in another issue to hassle you with, but I'm not sure about the notability of the subject. Is the church somewhat famous? Wikipedia doesn't have the server space for every church, etc, so it has certain notability guidelines that subjects of articles can adhere to. We can worry about that a little later, but I just wanted to give you the heads up before you put a lot more work into the article. Sorry. :( Anyway, let me know what you need. Peace, delldot | talk 04:21, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think if you know the person who took the picture, you can ask them to agree to release it into the GFDL, which would allow anyone to use it, and then wikipedia can use it. But let me get other wikipedians involved in the discussion about the article to determine whether it meets the notability criteria there. Peace, delldot | talk 04:38, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I'm sorry, I have some bad news. I asked other wikipedia editors about the church article and they said it needs to be deleted because it doesn't meet inclusion criteria for notability listed at WP:NOTE. I'm sorry, I hate to see it deleted after you worked so hard on it! :( delldot | talk 04:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion

Sure, I can try to explain. The best would be to read WP:NOTE and WP:NPOV, though of course that can be tedious. One concern about the article is that it may not be notable enough for inclusion, according to WP:NOTE, "a topic is notable if it has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the subject itself." I think that's the most important thing. Because if you can show that the article is verifiable, you have good support for the idea that it's notable. That means finding sources like newspaper articles or other reliable sources that discuss the church in a non trivial manner. Non trivial means things like announcements about fundraisers and that sort of thing probably don't count; it has to be about the church itself. If sources like that don't exist, it probably can't be included. Another page to look at is Wikipedia:Notability (local churches and other religious congregations). THough it's still just a proposed guideline, rather than an actual policy, it's a good way to get an idea of what editors agree should be deleted. You can also look at Wikipedia:Deletion policy if you have time. Hope this helps, feel free to ask more questions if you need to. Peace, delldot | talk 17:20, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]