User talk:Chironares

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Hi MGM, thanks for your help on my questions earlier. You have fully clarified the issue of how to get other pages to link to articles with different titles by using piped links, and that is extremely helpful. However, I still am a little unclear on searching. My article is now visible on Wikipedia when I search for "Jerome Silbergeld." Therefore, it doesn't seem that the problem is that the databse hasn't been updated. When I search for "Silbergeld" on the other hand, the article does not come up, though several articles on Chinese painters that refer to him do come up. Moreover, when I type "wiki silbergeld" into google, or even "wiki jerome silbergeld," articles on Chinese painters that reference silbergeld come up, but my article about him does not...do you have advise on making this more accessible to searches, both internal searches on wikipedia, and external searches where people type “wiki” and a key word?

Thanks again

...which I assume you meant to be a message to another user. You posted it as its own article, though. To post a message to a specific user, you should go to their talk page by clicking on the link provided by their name, then clicking the 'talk' tag at the top. Messages posted as articles are unlikely to reach their intended recipient. --Aquillion 18:07, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Searches with the search box on the left are done on what is called a database dump. If each search request would have to hit wikipedia with a query itself, it would severely slow down the servers to the point where editing becomes nearly impossible. Besides, it would be nearly impossible for the search to keep up with the thousands of creations and deletions each minute. Just linking the name on related pages helps people to find it. Anyone who spells his full name right and hits go will find the article immediately, though.

Normally, Google picks wiki pages up quicker. Try searching for "Jerome Silbergeld site:en.wikipedia.org" once in a while and it will appear in their search results quite soon. - Mgm|^(talk) 18:38, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect are created by posting the following text in an article and nothing else (without the quotes): "# REDIRECT [[Article name]]". (Also see Wikipedia:Redirect) If there's more people with the name Silbergeld, a disambiguation is appropriate. See Wikipedia:Disambiguation for how to make them. Alternatively, go to Silbergeld and have a go. I'd be happy to take a look at how you did. - Mgm|^(talk) 04:45, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation

Hi MacGyverMagic,

thanks for the comments. I created a redirect page that takes "silbergeld" to "Jerome Silbergeld," since Jerome Silbergeld is the only Silbergeld to have substantive information in a wikipedia article. However, I also created a disambiguation page at "Silbergeld Disambiguation" and provided a link to it on the "Jerome Silbergeld" page. That seem good?

Also, I'm still a little puzzled as to why google hasn't picked up the article yet...any idea why?

-Finally when I searched within Wikipedia for "silbergeld," right before creating the redirect page, I still came up with several articles in which both Jerome and other Silbergelds were peripherally mentioned, but not the one article that actually had the word "Silbergeld" in the title. Do you know why this is?

My interest is ultimately to ensure that when people search for pages, they can find them with the maximum ease. If google doesn't pick the page up, that makes it less likely people will find it. Likewise, if a search for a word that is in the title and article body does not turn up the article, but turns up other articles that touch only peripherally on the subject, it seems less likely that people will find it.

Thanks for your comments

Instead of creating a redirect at Silbergeld and a disambiguation at Silbergeld Disambiguation (which should be spelled Silbergeld (disambiguation) it's best to post the disambiguation at Silbergeld itself (which someone appears to have done). A redirect is only created to point people to another article they are looking for. You only create a page with a (disambiguation) modifier if the regular name is occupied with an article. If you get to a page of a last name, you could be looking for multiple people, so in that case, you should create a disambiguation instead of a redirect. When it comes to search engines picking it up, be patient. Such things don't happen overnight. Google will pick it up and it's quicker than Wikipedia itself at it. Did you read Wikipedia:Disambiguation? I think it tells you when to create and when not. - Mgm|^(talk) 18:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese Wikipedia

You should be interested in Blocking of Wikipedia in mainland China article. Jacek Kendysz 23:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]