User talk:Cdccyber

August 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, the username you have chosen (Cdccyber) seems to imply that you are editing on behalf of a group, company or website.

There are two issues with this:

It is possible that you have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, you must exercise great caution when editing on topics related to your organization.
Your account cannot represent a group of people. You may wish to create a new account with a username that represents only you. Alternatively, you may consider changing your username to avoid giving the impression that your personal account is being used for promotional purposes.

Regardless of whether you change your name or create a new account, you are not exempted from the guidelines concerning editing where you have a conflict of interest. For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. The article in question is Desktop Cyber. Thank you. Alan the Roving Ambassador (User:N5iln) (talk) 15:33, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You could also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 16:21, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interest

Hello Cdccyber. If you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Desktop CYBER, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

All editors are required to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about following the reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible.

If you are very close to a subject, here are some ways you can reduce the risk of problems:

Avoid or exercise great caution when editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with.
Be cautious about deletion discussions. Everyone is welcome to provide information about independent sources in deletion discussions, but avoid advocating for deletion of articles about your competitors.
Avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).
Exercise great caution so that you do not accidentally breach Wikipedia's content policies.

Please familiarize yourself with relevant content policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:30, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia naming convention

In regards to your recent edits and page moves related to Cyber, Wikipedia article names are specified by WP:NAME and MOS:NAME, not by any individual company. For example, Xerox is capitalized like any other proper noun—Wikipedia ignores the lowercase styling of the company as xerox. Cyber- is a common English prefix and should not be CYBER, merely a marketing symbol or logo. In some cases, popular usage may dictate using the all caps version, but there is no evidence of this for CDC products (which I used extensively in the 1970s). Please refrain from mass article moves without discussion which establishes consensus to change. Thanks, —EncMstr (talk) 17:47, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

CDC Cyber

You are incorrect. CYBER with all caps is a styled trademark. According to WP:ALLCAPS, trademarks styled in all caps should be reduced to normal capitalization. So should article titles, which is why this article is titled "CDC Cyber" and not "CDC CYBER". This is a style issue and we do not keep all caps unless they are an acronym. Sorry, please familiarize yourself more with our manual of style. Yworo (talk) 14:52, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Personal attacks

In reference to this edit: "you appear to do only "stupid" edits which do not contribute to the quality of the article you are vandalising because you are completely ignorant of the subject matter and can't contribute anything actually useful". That's a personal attack. Actually, I was for years a systems programmer on the CDC 6400 and other CDC Cybers and am an experienced Fortran and Lisp programmer. Try not to get hung up on archaic styling, eh? When in Rome, you use Rome's Manual of Style. Here's your official warning about personal attacks.

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on User talk:Yworo. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. You are welcome to rephrase your comment as a civil criticism of the article. Thank you. Yworo (talk) 14:32, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It was you who used the phrase "stupid capitalization", so don't get upset if I return the favour. If it is true what you say about your work as a systems programmer, then we should be best friends, but from your behaviour I doubt it. I had no previous experience with Wikipedia politics and really have better things to do than arguing correct spelling of CDC terms. Cdccyber (talk) 16:44, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unlike you, I referred to the content, the capitalization, not the editor. You didn't even make up the capitalization, so why would you take that comment personally? There is no need to argue about it, we apply the Wikipedia Manual of Style on names. It's quite clear we don't repeat all caps just because a manufacturer does in their trademarks. I called the capitalization stupid, you called me stupid, ignorant and accused me of vandalizing articles. There's a difference. Yworo (talk) 16:48, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

People are free to improve Wikipedia in any way they choose within Wikipedia policies and guidelines. I've both written content and started articles. That I also choose to make the appearance of Wikipedia consistent by applying the Manual of Style is also an improvement. It's useful work and you are the one wasting time by reverting the changes because you can't be bothered to learn the ropes here. You could have just followed the links provided to you to see what myself and other editors were talking about, but nooo... you pretend that you own the articles and know better than regular and established editors. Stop wasting our time. Yworo (talk) 16:54, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Desktop Cyber for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Desktop Cyber is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Desktop Cyber until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Yworo (talk) 16:02, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

August 2011

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User_talk:Joe_Chill. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. If you disagree with a deletion nomination, say so in the relevant discussion. Don't attack other editors.Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 07:23, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of current discussion at Wikipedia:ANI#Cdccyber

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.--Shirt58 (talk) 11:09, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Because we have a policy against usernames that give the impression that the account represents a group, organization or website, I have blocked this account; you are welcome to create a new account with a username that represents only you. You should also read our conflict of interest guideline. If your username doesn't represent a group, organization or website, you may appeal this username block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} below this notice. Thank you. Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 11:36, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]