User talk:Caters1

This is my talk page about primes.Caters1 (talk) 06:13, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Again, resonance

Again, ask your instructor or teacher about resonance structures. The subject can be confusing, was for me. Cyclic ClO₂ and bent O=Cl=O are not resonance structures, they are isomers. On a related topic, lots of cyclic peroxides exist. For example, the ones I work with have MO₂ rings (M = transition metal). Happy editing. --Smokefoot (talk) 14:43, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Structural isomers can be resonance structures. For example take phenyl ketone(benzene ring with a carbonyl attached to it). Of course you can form resonance structures by moving the pi electrons from benzene. However you can also move the electrons from the carbonyl double bond to the oxygen forming phenyl oxide(benzene ring with O singly bonded to it). From there you can again move the electrons from the benzene ring. All of these are resonance structures and the ones with the alkoxide anion are structural isomers as well as resonance structures.

In the same way you can move the pi electrons from the O-Cl double bond to the oxygen to form O^--Cl-O^- which can then form a peroxide bond(O-O single bond) to make a cyclic peroxide. Resonance structures are all about moving electrons and in the process forming anions within molecules(like the alkoxide anion), cations within molecules, and new bonds.

And I didn't say that not a whole lot of cyclic peroxides exist, just that they are usually more unstable than straight peroxides. It is especially the case with halogen peroxides as both the oxygen and the halogen would prefer a negative charge if any charge and here the oxygen is neutral but the halogen is positive and positively charged halogens are usually unstable.

Caters1 (talk) 15:25, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said, a conversation with a chemistry instructor might help sharpen your understanding of resonance structures vs structural isomers. Happy editing. --Smokefoot (talk) 20:52, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not much evidence for AgOH

Correct me if I am wrong, but most inorganic chemists think that there is little evidence for AgOH at high concentrations or as a pure solid. Ditto for other coinage metals, I think. But we welcome good sourcing. --Smokefoot (talk) 02:21, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]