User talk:Cassyjanek

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Keyscript Shorthand

A tag has been placed on Keyscript Shorthand, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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January 2009

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, one or more of the external links you added to the page Teeline Shorthand do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. "Keyscript" is not Teeline Ashleyvh (talk) 08:59, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Gregg shorthand. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Since Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by some search engines, including Google. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. Thank you. "Keyscript" is not Gregg Ashleyvh (talk) 09:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop. If you continue to add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Teeline Shorthand, you will be blocked from editing. Ashleyvh (talk) 10:19, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you insert a spam link, as you did to Gregg shorthand, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted preventing anyone from linking to them from all Wikimedia sites as well as potentially being penalized by search engines. Ashleyvh (talk) 10:20, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If Keyscript were a recognized form of shorthand it would be supported by references that were not self published. If there were sufficient independent references it would be a suitable subject for recognition and would not be challenged. I can find no published book that mentions your system. Please check the guidance above if you believe I am mistaken. —Ashleyvh (talk) 00:00, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You've got a mesage

Hi. You've got a message at my talkpage. Thanks. Dr.K. logos 05:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

May 2009

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Shorthand. When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Repeated removal of content without explanation has to be considered vandalism. Teahot (talk) 22:31, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Keyscript

The article Keyscript has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Not a notable writing system. A search for sources revealed that it is a recently-invented system and it does not appear to have been covered in any independent sources yet.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. bonadea contributions talk 18:01, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

June 2012

Hello, Cassyjanek. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Keyscript, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

All editors are required to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about ensuring their edits are verified by reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible.

If you are very close to a subject, here are some ways you can reduce the risk of problems:

Avoid or exercise great caution when editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with.
Be cautious about deletion discussions. Everyone is welcome to provide information about independent sources in deletion discussions, but avoid advocating for deletion of articles about your competitors.
Avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).
Exercise great caution so that you do not accidentally breach Wikipedia's content policies.

Please familiarize yourself with relevant content policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. bonadea contributions talk 18:02, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Keyscript for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Keyscript is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keyscript until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. bonadea contributions talk 10:35, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In the nomination for deletion, I have included a link to your post on Talk:Keyscript where you argue for the article's being kept, but you are of course more than welcome to participate in the discussion on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keyscript. You may want to look at Wikipedia's policies about notability, verifiability and reliable sources as well. The deletion discussion normally goes on for seven days. Thank you! --bonadea contributions talk 10:38, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cassyjanek, I noticed that you'd posted another contribution to the discussion on the article's talk page. Do you think you might post that latest link and any future arguments to the dedicated discussion page, which is here? I appreciate that it's very confusing to know where different discussions happen, and it might seem like a pointless hoop to jump through, but most participants in the deletion discussion probably won't visit the article talk page and so your argumentation might not be seen, which would be unfortunate. Cheers, --bonadea contributions talk 10:13, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A reply

It looks like your edits here are designed to promote keyscript shorthand. You created an article and it was deleted so why would it belong in the "notable" section of the shorthand article? Helpsome (talk) 16:24, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't pretend that removing your constant self promotion counts as "vandalism". The link is already in the external links section (added by you to promote yourself by the way) and it doesn't need to be in two places. It certainly doesn't qualify as a "notable" form of shorthand as the deletion of the article was based on a lack of notability for the form of shorthand. Helpsome (talk) 17:09, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What I mean by "constant self-promotion" is just that. Other than a few perfunctory edits to other articles, all of your edits here have been to promote your own form of shorthand. That is self promotion. There are a whole lot of warnings about it from other editors above so please don't pretend like you don't know what I mean. I don't feel that I am unhelpful or undiplomatic because I don't feel that it is my job to help you promote yourself. With all due respect, you asked why I removed your edit and I explained it. Helpsome (talk) 19:23, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have a list of all of your edits because every user has a list of their edits listed on Wikipedia and yours are here if you would like to look at them. While you may contend that it is possible for you to promote your own products without it being promotional your conflict of interest wasn't the reason the article was deleted. It wasn't notable and that is why a link to your website doesn't belong in the "notable" section of the shorthand article. You admit that nobody would write about Keyscript if you didn't which, whether you meant it to be or not, is an admission that Keyscript just isn't notable enough for an article. Your argument is actually the opposite of how it works on Wikipedia - The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the topic itself (or of its manufacturer, creator, author, inventor, or vendor) have actually considered the topic notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works of their own that focus upon it – without incentive, promotion, or other influence by people connected to the topic matter. That is from Wikipedia:Notability. You seem to be making this personal and I assure you it isn't. I would imagine that you created Keyscript to help people and not to get a Wikipedia article so please continue helping people learn your shorthand system and don't worry about not having a Wikipedia article. Helpsome (talk) 17:42, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]