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Hi Captchacatcher, thanks for your edits. If you look at Elves in Middle-earth you'll see that I've edited your refs to fit in with the house style. We mark all primary (Tolkien) refs with "group=T" so they appear in the Primary list of refs; and all LOTR, Hobbit, and Silmarillion refs are to chapter not page, as there are so many editions that page numbering is basically hopelessly non-navigable. Tolkien books are listed in 'Sources' at the end of each article; we then link to them using <ref group=T>{{harvnb|Tolkien|YEAR|at=ch. NUMBER "CHAPTER TITLE"}}</ref>. Hope this helps a little! All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:53, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mmm, a little. The project actually uses completely plain Cite book, Cite journal, Cite news formats; but since there can be so many primary refs per article, folks would get suspicious we were using Tolkien in circular fashion to give the appearance of notability, so we have separate Primary and Secondary lists to make it all open and above board. That in turn means we need Mr T's ref group (at least it's uniform across the project); and to save redefining LOTR etc everywhere, we have the book refs templated, ... so we link to them using harvnb. It's a pretty clean solution. Maybe other projects should be doing the same... All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:24, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
