User talk:Canadianpolitics

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Angela Kennedy

The AFD debate was closed without anybody responding to your question, so I just thought I should clarify for you: no, the fact that she's planning to run again in the next provincial election doesn't change anything (per WP:POLITICIAN, merely being a candidate for office is not enough of a claim of notability to support a standalone article by itself) and neither does the fact that she chaired the school board (the lowest level of office that's generally accepted as possibly conferring notability is city council, and even then only in major metropolitan cities like Toronto or Ottawa; the lowest level of office that's accepted as always conferring notability is the provincial legislature.)

It is possible in certain circumstances for a person who was already notable enough for an article to also run as a candidate — for example, a person who has already held an office that's notable enough to get them into Wikipedia does not suddenly lose their article just because they fail in a subsequent election for a different office. And sometimes people who were already notable enough for articles in other careers (writers, athletes, economists, musicians, etc.) throw their hats into the political ring too — they don't surrender their pre-existing notability either. But at least on the basis of the article that was written, Angela Kennedy doesn't meet either of those "loopholes"; it didn't make any real claim of notability outside of the candidacy and the school board.

But as a rule, the only school board members who qualify for articles on Wikipedia are the ones who then go on to win election to a notable higher office, such as provincial MPP — whether they were trustees or chairs of the school board doesn't matter, because it's the higher office, not the school board, that qualifies them. If she wins a seat in the next provincial election, then she'll qualify for an article at that time because of the new and improved notability claim, but merely running for a seat isn't enough by itself. Hope that helps a bit. Bearcat (talk) 03:47, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Candidate lists

Just a couple of notes for you about candidate lists such as Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario candidates, next Ontario provincial election:

As you've probably already seen in my earlier edit summary, there are certain rules about the format that such lists are required to follow now. While the original format that was used for such lists did involve candidates being allowed their own subsections containing mini-articles about them, our WP:BLP and WP:NOTABILITY rules have evolved since then and we're no longer allowed to post any unsourced biographical information about a candidate, nor even sourced biographical information about a person who hasn't attained enough notability to stand alone as an independent article topic — so the lists are now allowed only in the table format that you see in the 2011 articles. It's true that some of the older articles haven't actually been fully converted over yet, but that's only because not enough people are actually taking on the task of getting it done, and not because any of the articles are actually allowed to retain the minibio format. If you're willing to help convert the older lists to the contemporary format, that would be great — but the older minibio format is actually against Wikipedia's current content and sourcing rules, so it's not the model that a new candidate list is allowed to follow.
When it comes to linking names, there's no value in linking a person if their name exists solely as a redirect to a prior candidate list, the way you did with Angela Kennedy — because the other article doesn't (and can't) give any more substantial information about her than the current article already does, the reader doesn't gain anything by clicking on her name and finding out exactly nothing new about her. So any given list is only supposed to link to people who actually have their own full standalone articles to link to, not people who just exist as redirects to other lists. If she wins a seat in the next election, then we can go back and turn her name in the earlier lists into an active link — but there's no value in linking her name right now.
Conversely, however, when you added Gila Martow to the list on February 14, since she had won the by-election and become an incumbent MPP, you should have added her name without the "nolink=1" tag so that the list did link to her article.

Hope that helps a bit. Bearcat (talk) 19:15, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And one other followup comment — another thing that would be of value to Wikipedia, if you're willing to help out, is actually getting the past tables (2011, 2007, etc.) filled out with the relevant information, especially in the vote/percentage/rank columns. Bearcat (talk) 19:42, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]