User talk:CanGrow46

Unverifiable claims: Sonomak Farms

Please comment at Talk:Sonomak_Farms. 64.134.64.190 (talk) 20:12, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Sonomak Farms

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, introducing inappropriate pages, such as Sonomak Farms, is not in accordance with our policies. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Under section G3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, the page has been nominated for deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Hammersoft (talk) 20:56, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sonomak Farms

Sorry, but if in fact "Sonomak Farms" was licensed to grow marijuana in the State of Washington, it would show up on this list. It doesn't. If in fact any such place existed as "one of the largest government licensed producers of marijuana in the World", there would be an Internet footprint. There is virtually none. This is a hoax, nothing more. It will be deleted shortly. --Hammersoft (talk) 21:09, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sonomak is on the list--it is a coop farm. It consists of AGRILAB and SKYE HIGH.

Should I explain that further on the Wikipedia site?

And most of those businesses have gone under in the last year.

So--yes, Sonomak is one of the remaining and one of the largest in the nation.

PLEASE let me know what else I may provide...I can ASSURE you this is not a Hoax.

I have much better things to do with my time----AND YOURS.

THANK YOU (CanGrow46 (talk) 21:28, 15 January 2016 (UTC))[reply]

Sorry, but I'm not buying it. If Sonomak Farms actually existed, there would be a footprint. There is none. Astounding claims require astounding evidence. You've claimed that Sonomak Farms is "one of the largest government licensed producers of marijuana in the World". If it's so famous, why doesn't it show up on this list? If it supposedly is made up of AgriLab and Skye High, then pray tell how can it be one of the largest in the world when it's not even in the top 20 in its own county [1]? Come on. Pull someone else's leg. Mine are long enough. --Hammersoft (talk) 21:35, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Riiigght. Yet, you claim on the article that Sonomak Farms is "one of the first producers of marijuana in the nation". Really? It started this year but it was one of the first??? Those two "facts" can not be reconciled. --Hammersoft (talk) 21:40, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You asked for a business licenses and I offered the business link. You demand a logo or website but we are a commodities company! We sell product to brands that have fancy logos and websites. I don't know where the site you offered draws it's information? But it looks like taxes from 2014? Two years ago in a revolutionary industry. The market has changed considerably, including the players. This is a very real company and this proving is making my job unnecessarily difficult. Tell me exactly what you need to not erase the site. I have and will continue to provide it.(CanGrow46 (talk) 21:46, 15 January 2016 (UTC)) The business did not start this year.(CanGrow46 (talk) 21:51, 15 January 2016 (UTC))[reply]

The licenses you provided offer no link of any kind whatsoever to any entity called "Sonomak Farms". I didn't demand a logo, but I find it very curious that the supposed logo from the instagram feed is a direct derivative of a Microsoft Powerpoint template. The tax list I linked to includes 2015...and still shows Skye High as not even in the top 20 in its own county (much less the world, as you claim on the article). If you're being paid to edit here, then you must disclose that. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. Further, you are strongly discouraged from editing articles relating to your work. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. If Sonomak Farms is as big an entity as you have claimed, there should be SOMEthing. But, there isn't. There's nothing. Not one shred of evidence other than an Instagram feed that such a place even exists, much less is "one of the largest..in the world". --Hammersoft (talk) 21:57, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here's what we'd need. Some kind of evidence this place exists and is notable. See Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). You'd need to provide reliable secondary sources attesting to its notability under that guideline. So far, you haven't been able to even provide reliable primary sources, and my own searches to attempt to find some reliable secondary sources have proved futile. So, provide something from a secondary source. A newspaper article, a reputable magazine, a recording from a radio show (on the radio show's online presence). Something. The youtube video you linked to is not a secondary source (even if it's a primary source, which I highly doubt). --Hammersoft (talk) 22:00, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The article has now been deleted as a hoax. Please do not recreate it unless you can provide anything along the lines of what I've indicated above. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 22:01, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So that we have them as a record, since the talk page of the article is now deleted as well, the licenses you provided that supposedly indicated Sonomak Farms were:

http://bls.dor.wa.gov/LicenseSearch/lqsLicenseDetail.aspx?RefID=431765 (which is for Agrilab LLC)
http://bls.dor.wa.gov/LicenseSearch/lqsLicenseDetail.aspx?RefID=1466856 (which is for Skye High LLC)

--Hammersoft (talk) 22:03, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You have not allowed me to provide anything? And it is gone?

I appreciate the advice for the future.

However you might want to be a little less heavy handed next time.

I cannot imagine who would bother to publish a hoax or LIE.

I can assure you it is NOT me!!!!

I will do my best to gather proper references before creating a new page.

THANK YOU (CanGrow46 (talk) 22:08, 15 January 2016 (UTC))[reply]

People frequently attempt to victimize Wikipedia with hoaxes. This is why we have a specific speedy deletion criteria for hoaxes. I'm sorry you think my actions are heavy handed. I assure you they are not. The simple fact is there is no proof anywhere to indicate this company exists, and even your own attempts to do so have provided not one shred of evidence that anything called "Sonomak Farms" exists, much less is "one of the largest..in the world". The 'facts' you provided are contradictory and do not add up. I've indicated to you above what you need to do to prove me wrong, so please do so. If you can prove it exists, you will have my apology. As is, I stand by my comments. As for creating a new page, I again point you to the REQUIREMENT that you disclose you are paid editor and the guideline strongly encouraging you not to edit articles. If you attempt to create more articles about this supposed company, it is very likely you will be blocked by someone for violating our terms of use. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:16, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hoax

Do not create, add, maintain, insert, or restore hoaxes on Wikipedia. Usually, hoaxes will be caught and marked for deletion shortly after they are created. If you are interested in how accurate Wikipedia is, a more constructive test method would be to try to find inaccurate statements that are already in Wikipedia – and then to correct them if possible. Please do not disrupt Wikipedia. Feel free to take a look at the five pillars of Wikipedia to learn more about this project and how you can contribute constructively. Thank you. --Hammersoft (talk) 21:09, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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