User talk:Cammers7

Keith Sager

I've added the "{{prod}}" template to the article Keith Sager, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not"). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at Talk:Keith Sager. You may remove the deletion notice, and the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. Patstuart^{(talk)(contribs)} 23:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion pages, as you did with Keith Sager. The notices and comments are needed to establish community consensus about the status of an article, and removing them is considered vandalism. If you oppose the deletion of an article, you may comment at the respective page instead. Thank you. Kathy A. 00:09, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop removing Articles for deletion notices or comments from articles and Articles for deletion pages, as you did with Keith Sager — it is considered vandalism. You may comment at the respective page if you oppose an article's deletion. Thanks. --Kathy A. 15:13, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion

If you can provide us with some evidence of Keith Sager's existence, that would help. Otherwise, we'll be forced to conclude that this is a hoax. DS 15:37, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please please contribute to the afd discussion already going on. In fact, removing the afd tags will do nothing, because the discussion will continue, and the page will be deleted anyway. But if you can contribute, that would be very helpful. -Patstuart^talk|edits 18:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder: The AfD is here. And please don't vandalize my user talk page again. |||||| E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 01:35, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please keep in mind a few things. First, Wikipedia, as a hard-set policy does not include every piece of information that exists. Please see WP:BIO. I might think my mother does some very good humanitarian work, but she doesn't deserve an article. If you can address WP:BIO, why Mr. Sager is worthy of an article, then you'll give us something to work with; but we can't include someone outside of policy just because they think it's a good idea. Also, I believe this case may have some conflict of interest problems; however, for this to even be a consideration, the other criteria must be met. Finally, please keep a cool head. Thanks. Patstuart^talk|edits 04:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize if I've offended you, Pat :) |||||| E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 05:08, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, my comments are directed at Cammers, not you. Patstuart^talk|edits 05:35, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I guess that's what I get for getting drunk then poking around Wikipedia. :P |||||| E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 05:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, very idea to begin with. Anyway, see Wikipedia:Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense/Editing Wikipedia while drunk. Patstuart^talk|edits 06:36, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As it appears we seem to be getting nowhere regarding Sager, i would ask you and your fellow editors to tell me how to prove his existence..... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cammers7 (talk • contribs) 12:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Well, if you're at all familiar with internet searches, I would suggest doing a google search, and providing what you come up with. I personally couldn't find anything on google for your specific Mr. Sager. However, if you can't find any reliable sources for his existence, this is exactly one of the reasons why the article ought to be deleted. Also, it would be very much helpful if you would read up on WP:BIO, and find how the subject fits these criteria. In my opinion (other editors might disagree), you might like to start with WP:BIO. It doesn't take too long to read, and if you're familiar with the subject, you should be able to find where the two intersect. -Patstuart^talk|edits 12:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Or you could let us all in on the joke. Mr Stephen 22:39, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your message

Thanks for your message. Mr Stephen 09:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I was a bit short of time this morning. Your message did make me smile when I read it. But, I'm sure you know that wikipedia is not the place for jokes, however good an idea it seems at the time. Regards, Mr Stephen 16:14, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]