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SheetMusicFox

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Okay, I will take your suggestion and ask in the talk pages to post links. Thanks.

airport infobox

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oh crap i did a mistake, i wanted everything to be centered because looks a little more organize, and i made a mistake of deleating the coordinates and the actual airport stats, my bad. ColBog Sorry for the mistake dude, you are right.

Unionville High school

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Hi, I noticed that you deleted the page with a note saying copyright violation. How did you determine that it was a copyright violation? I had noted and attempted to fix some problems with the page (primarily the page name) but didn't suspect a copyright violation. Thanks Brian 00:02, 19 June 2006 (UTC)btball[reply]

Why do you have to be doin that?

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If its too vulgar, just edit it a little bit, don't trash the whole article...and also, did you delete the "banner of belligerence" page for any reason? You didn't really offer any warning to change some of the content, you just kinda destroyed it. Half the stuff on this website gets on here because users put it on here...Have you ever clicked on the "random article" button? If you do, you will probably see that every article that pops up is totally bullshit and has no real meaning to it. Half of them are talking about the Turkistpinkintstan traid routs of 613 B.C., but then i put up one article about an up and coming band, which is actually contributing to society, and you just delete it??? Maybe if you had a soul, you could put the page back up, I'm sure you can do that can't you?

Thanks again,

frogman574 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Frogman574 (talkcontribs) 01:29, 19 June 2006.

The Violence

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The delete prod for nonnotability you placed on this article was removed, despite the fact that there has still been no effort made to prove that this band is of any importance whatsoever. I have replaced the prod, but I am wondering if it is not time for an AfD. Your thoughts? ---Charles 03:59, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

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Thank you for moving the New Norwegian article back to Nynorsk, much appreciated :) --Eivindt@c 14:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Everton reserves

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hello thankyou first for stopping a user speedy deleting for no reason. You have instead put delete discussion templates on the following articles (much more civil approach).

Kieran Agard Alan Kearney Steven Morrison Shaun Densmore John Irving (footballer) Matthew Elder Mathew Holt Michael Jensen (footballer) Cory Sinott

I have added identical shorts to the discussion pages of all articles. Also I have since added football stub templates as these need to be added to when the 2006/07 season starts or if any developments occur in pre-season. This being the case I think they are viable articles.

Thankyou

SenorKristobbal 22:56, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not arbitrarily delete an article you consider to be "nonsense". I happen to come from Northern Ireland, and I do know for a fact that the dish Champ does indeed exist. I'm asking you to undelete the article ASAP, thank you very much. --Mal 00:28, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to hijack your talk page, but Mal, admins can make mistakes and it's best to remain civil if you want the desired outcome round here :) Anyway, CambridgeBayWeather: I just popped by to say I've restored the deleted edits. I see you edited the recreated article and didn't delete is this time so I assume you won't mind. I've had many dealings with Mal and I don't believe for one moment he would create a hoax article so, assuming good fait,h I've restored it. If you have any disagreement please drop me a line on my talk page or nominate it for AFD. It's certainly not patent nonsense (gobbledegook) so wasn't a valid deletion anyway. (no reply needed unless you disagree. Cheers.) --kingboyk 12:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I thought he was being civil. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 12:35, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was being civil, although I admit to having been annoyed of course - I had only just created the article, then it was immediately nominated for speedy. I was adjusting other articles to point specifically to the newly created article, then it disappeared on me!

Steve, its not like I haven't been an administrator of websites before myself dude. I ran one of the most popular eBBSes on the internet back in the early 1990s, when the internet was still basically text-only!

I re-created the page last night before I went to sleep, because I felt that, in the end, there would be no objections. The article is still very short of course, but I feel sure others will add to it once they become aware of its existence. I may well add to it later on myself.

CambridgeBayWeather, I would *kindly* and hopefully *gently* advise you to look a bit harder at articles you're deleting. I have noticed in your talk page history here, that you have had similar reaction to mine.. and worse. A quick Google might help out. Don't get me wrong - I appreciate the time taken to combat vandalism and gumph!, and looking at the deletion logs it certainly looks as though you work hard at maintaining the Wikipedia.

Anyway, out of conflicts sometimes arise friendships - that's how I got to know Steve! Good luck and all the best. --Mal 13:17, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just out of interest take a look at my deletion log. Yes I make mistakes but very few. If I was making more errors then I would stop. For some reason, yesterday was poor with three or four articles deleted in error. I don't really count the Everton players as they are all up at AfD now. Some do get deleted as empty and are then recreated with info and thoses I don't re-delete. What of course doesn't show up so easily are the speedy tags I remove. Anyway, I didn't/don't take offence at anything you said. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 13:26, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It may interest you to know that there is currently a WikiProject on the Eurovision Song Contest underway. The article you deleted was part of that project, as it was a song which was intended to be performed at the Contest and which was ultimately not performed. I'll admit that I should have categorised it as a stub, since I was planning on returning to it later (after I've hunted out my copy of the song to provide more useful information on it), but simply deleting it seems a trifle heavy-handed to me. BigHaz 08:21, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my pennyworth at the user:BigHaz Talk page. Cheers. --Dweller 08:45, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting Tool of the System

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Hey, man... why'd you drop that? -- ToolOfTheSystem

AfD thanks

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Like an RfA thanks, except I'm thanking you for helping with my AfD. =] --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 17:45, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Better that you pointed it out that not doing anything at all, right? --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 17:48, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Vandals

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Thanks for bringing that to my attention. The first one is indefinately blocked and since the others haven't vandalised recently I'll leave them alone. --Pilot|guy 13:33, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Need help woth "Fixwiki"

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Sorry to bug you with this, but I have a 3RR situation on my hands and no time to document it. The context is Le Sage's theory of gravitation. Just look at the history, as User talk:Fixwiki and talk:Le Sage's theory of gravitation. I think that the case for a block against Fixwiki will be obvious. --EMS | Talk 18:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I saw the warning you gave "Fixwiki". Thank you very much. --EMS | Talk 01:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again, this time for blocking "Fixwiki". I have my doubts that it will work, but hopefully his being disciplined will make him more cooperative. In any case, he needed this. BTW - That anon who reverted that article the day before yesterday very much was Fixwiki, who must have forgotten to log in at the time. I'm sorry that I forgot to mention that to you. --EMS | Talk 17:05, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
One more thing - If "Fixwiki" does complain on about you, please let me know. I will be happy to back you up on this. --EMS | Talk 17:07, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

explanation for reverts

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A very full explanation of why the Lesage article should be reverted has been given in the Discussion page for that article. All of my edits are factual, pertinent, verifiable, NPOV, and correct. In contrast, much of the material inserted by the well-known physics crackpots Minkst, Stowe, Schafer is false, not relevant, certainly not verifiable, highly POV, and technically incorrect. If you choose to favor them simply because they will kiss your ass, whereas I will will not, then so be it. This is partly an experiment to see how Wikipedia works, and whether the administrators respond to the value of the actual content, or to the social ass-kissing aspects of the various editors. For example, you appear ready to crunch down on perceived 3 rv's per day, claiming that I haven't explained myself (after about 1000 pages of Discussion!)and yet you totally ignore the gross violation of the Wiki policies against self-promotion and posting unverifiable "original research". And you don't bat an eye when the three crackpots expunge all the actual scientific content, like Steve Carlip's discussion, who is a distinguished and recognized expert, and replace it with Tom "faces on Mars" van Flandern.

Dude, you are out to lunch on this.

A question: Who do I complain to about YOUR behavior? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fixwiki (talkcontribs) 19:46, 21 June 2006.

WikiProject on Hard Rock

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I am looking for people to help me create a wikiproject on hard rock. Are you interested, or do you know anyone who could join the project and help me. (BritisH PunK 20:51, 21 June 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Oops. I didn't look at the article history. Sorry! - Mike Rosoft 11:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kellen Kash says keep AKALA

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this rapper is going to be a big name and making big noise. I am writing on him right now for TOOHOTMAGAZINE.COM and TOOHOTRADIO.COM his videos are in heavy rotation in the UK and should stay —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.166.176.158 (talkcontribs) 14:54, 22 June 2006.

I have no idea who Kellen Kash is but my talk page is not the place to discuss this. Please goto Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Akala (rapper). CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 14:58, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When tagging orphaned fair use images, could you please use {{subst:orfud}} instead of {{or-cr}}? The reason is the former will sort them into categories by date and the latter does not, dumping it instead into a large bucket of orphaned images (see Category:Orphaned fairuse images). Thanks. --BrownCow • (how now?) 16:55, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The relevant images (that I saw) are Image:Childface.jpg, Image:Childface2.jpg, and Image:Childface3.jpg. Thanks. --BrownCow • (how now?) 18:01, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hi

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the post i made was substantial. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pdlawry (talkcontribs) 00:24, 23 June 2006.

Basically, I am battling user:Der alte Hexenmeister (who is known on USENET as Androcles). thiss diff shows the nature of the difference of opinion. this diff shows the attitude of Der alte Hexenmeister. In fact, there is an RfC against Der alte Hexenmeister at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Der alte Hexenmeister.

Please see the theory of relativity edit history, user talk:Der alte Hexenmeister, and the RfC. At this time, he is mostly violating WP:CIVIL, WP:NOR, and WP:NPOV. He is not violating WP:3RR. A block against him would be nice, but whether or not you do that some advice on how to proceed against him would be appreciated. Let me put it this way: Is it time to do an RfAr? --EMS | Talk 04:54, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article deletion

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Hi there,

you recently deleted an article called "Dave's Flaps" which I added to the site this morning.

I appreciate this artice has absolutely no use to anyone except a small group of my friends, and accept it's deletion.

However, is it possible to reinstate the article for a short period of time ? as a few of the people I'd like to see it are in different timezones and were unable to view it.

Apologies if I've broken any rules, however the article itself contained no profanity, abuse, threats or offensive context, so I'd appreciate if this could be reviewed/reinstated.

thanks

I just categorized and fixed the formatting of 33863 Elfriederwin, posted by Erwinschwab (talk · contribs), whom you have warned with blocking for a previous copyvio. Erwin Schwab appears to be an astronomer and discoverer or co-discoverer of a number of asteroids, and it is quite possible that he was in fact the original author of the article you deleted. 33863 Elfriederwin (named after his parents) may OTOH possiby be seen as vanity, but we do have articles on thousands of other asteroids and it should at least not be speedy deleted. up+l+and 12:59, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, to be honest with you, I think you you violated WP:BITE here. I think it was rude to accuse him of "disruption" and warn him with blocking, while deleting almost everything he produced. This was a very new user, presumably unfamiliar with Wikipedia policies and guidelines, who hadn't even had a {{welcome}} posted on his talkpage. I think you should have helped him by explaining the problem. It is highly unlikely that he would not have had or easily could have received the permission of his own observatory to post these texts here. up+l+and 03:05, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's always useful to get academics into editing and creating Wikipedia articles in their specialty, so I hate to see them "bitten". Most people with other outlets for publishing are not likely to stick around if they feel unwelcome. On the other hand, it is difficult to know who would have stayed and who would not, and one probably needs a thick skin to stay here anyway. But to try to remedy the situation: what about deleting the current version of his talkpage and sticking a welcome note there instead? up+l+and 10:20, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That looks much better! :-) I'm happy you took my criticism as well as you did. up+l+and 10:45, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stansbury Hall

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Thanks for the heads up! I was just getting around to creating a page for Stansbury Hall when I got your message. :)

Renaming a page title

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I made a redirect page for the WVU Field House, but the page reads Wvu field house. Is there a way to correct this? --DarkAudit 13:24, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts

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Hi! You'd reverted an IPs edits: [1] which was made in good faith. The IP (150.101.102.188) had removed a fair use image from the page, a perfectly valid reason for removal, since free images are available. Please do not use admin privileges to rollback a non-vandal edit, and verify the edit as far as possible. This is the third time the user has been reverted (2nd by an admin) and it doesn't reflect too well on the 'pedia. Thanks and regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:15, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mayo poem

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Just so you know, your mayo poem made me laugh so hard I cried. Anand 23:01, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

External Link.

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hello, CambridgeBay. I have some questions about External Links. Frequently, I saw that some editor put the website adress on article that belongs to article. I mean they usually get warning on External Links, but some of them didn't get warning on Commercial Link. So, Could you explain to me which Links are not allowed in article? I hope you could answer in my discussion Page. Thanks.

*~Daniel~* 01:44, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

thanks

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thanks for your help. I originally came on here with big plans to re-write half of wikipedia and make it dissertation quality, but I realized the best way I can help is to watch for vandalism and try and correct it. Certain pages seem to be magnets for that sort of thing. Cheers --Ccosta 02:28, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ceilometer

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You corrections seem OK to me. Sorry about the typos! Pierre_cb 2006-006-25 12:30 GMT

Flowers - Don't submit pictures from your garden comment

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CambridgeBayWeather,

I don't get it - yes I'm new to Wikipedia. I thought the purpose of this site was to share information. Does it matter if a picture of a Blanket Flower I contribute comes from my garden, my neighbors yard, or the state botanical society? It is a picture of a Blanket Flower - something Wikipedia was missing, and I chose to contribute.

Please explain what I did wrong

--Ccooper03 13:49, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Baffin Island Wildlife

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Thanks for the positive feedback. I'll be adding to it as I go along. When I get my act together and do a bio, I'll send you a note. --Pwyatt1 18:29, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your Talk Comment

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Thank you for bringing that to my attention, it is much appreciated. I'll be more careful in the future. --C3H5N3O92010 16:27, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removing of AfD tags

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I tagged the article Chromavision per the AfD procedure. The user Km2302@columbia.edu has repeatedly removed the tags after the fact, even after I posted on the article's talk page that such an act was bad form. His only edits were to the Chromavision page, and he has not participated in the discussion to defend his work. Can someone please get his attention so the process can go on in the right way? Thank you. --DarkAudit 21:15, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rescinding an AfD

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I put up Theaxa as an AfD without doing the proper legwork. I have commented to such in the AfD section, and have apologized to the author. What else needs to be done to close out the discussion and forget the whole thing? --DarkAudit 20:36, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rough Justice

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Why did you delete my page?

Another satisfied Wikipedian leaves a comment

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dude your just an asshole... i was fixing shit on the Delta chi page that my buddy changed cuz he is a dick... so A) don't worry about it and B) your a bitch and stop wasting your time on this stupid web site!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by J-Bones (talkcontribs) 16:56, 29 June 2006.

^ That vandal

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No problem :) — getcrunk what?! 17:00, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

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Thanks for reverting my page from vandals blink-182 17:07, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting AfD tag for withdrawn nomination

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I'm unclear on the etiquette here. If I withdraw my nomination, is it ok to remove the tag from the page I nominated? I've withdrawn the nomination for the Haris Cizmic page. The current page is nothing like what it was when I nominated it. --DarkAudit 15:14, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedian27

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I'm sorry I didn't tell you. Yes I sometimes edit while logged out. Thanks for the concern though. It should only take 2 or 3 seconds to get the tags back on. THX!

Hello there. I've just finished investigating the claims of sockpuppetry on the AfD debate for Haris Cizmic. My findings are at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Djedamrazuk. I'd like you to consider putting the article through a second AfD, given the massive bad-faith sockpuppet campaign waged by the author (yes, those are his sockpuppets bulking up the article). Cheers, Mackensen (talk) 12:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Haris Cizmic AfD

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As my comment on the AfD page (and as the guy who started the whole mess in the first place) says, I think the pages shouldn't be sanctioned after the effort was made to fix them. If some editors need sanctioned, go after them instead. --DarkAudit 15:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppets

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It looks like the pages are being punished for the sockpuppetry. As the one who nominated two of the pages for deletion, I withdrew them on the merits of the pages and the subjects, and even made a note that the sockpuppets did not make a difference in my decision to withdraw the nomination. --DarkAudit 15:53, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Missing something?

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Per my comments in the new discussion on Haris Cizmic, et. al., I withdrew my nominations on my own. 'So an actual discussion can take place' implies that my withdrawing the nominations were not entirely valid. I assure you that they were. If this is merely re-opening the old AfDs, I hereby withdraw the nominations again. --DarkAudit 17:27, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AfD

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re: [2], #2 is transcluded as a redlink and #3 was closed two days ago. Something wrong... - CrazyRussian talk/email 21:33, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you please discuss this revert on Talk:Wikipedia? Thanks. --ais523 09:35, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Robin Fletcher on deletion review

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An editor has asked for a deletion review of Robin Fletcher. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, your reasons on how or why you did so will be greatly appreciated in the above review. --Deathphoenix ʕ 02:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Haris Cizmic

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Your afd link for this goes to a band - is this an error? Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! (Whisper...) 15:51, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

discovery island, bc

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good idea!

Thanks for reverting my user page.

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Apparently, I was a cocksucker for a while there, and I didn't even notice. Thanks! -- Captain Disdain 15:23, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And ditto, thanks for the revert! Regards -- Banes 23:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I do, he is a "friend", an IP I've blocked a few times who has started some sort of vendetta. In my history all you see is him, he also created another account User:Baneskiller apparently. I wanted to perma block this account but I guess It'd look a little vindictive to an outsider (rogue admin indef blocking account based on first edit). -- Banes 23:50, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you kindly. :) His other vandalism accounts have often done more than one edit, so the block was preventative too. Cheers -- Banes 23:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The skyline page

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I resent your comment. The skyline page is messy and not at all concise. I believe that I was making an improvement. Someone has made a gratuitously long list, probably to 'advertise' their city. Whether or not it was you is irrelevant, but I have a hunch it might have been. I would thank you not to threaten me with expulsion from Wikipedia and refer to what I was doing as vandalism. Ben Barone (Talk) 20:25, 8 July 2006 (EST)

HEY :P

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Hey there, you said I could talk to you about something if I needed so here I am I have a big problem with the page on Tory Christman. The page was written by her, or someone close to her, and it has a lot of underhanded swipes at Scientology. The way they've worded a lot of the things, go read through it and you'll see, "saw Scientology for what it truly was" etc. I'm not a Scientologist but my friend is (who is such a sweet person) and it's just such a sneaky rude thing to put onto an encyclopedia page, talking as if their opinion of the church is fact (when it really is the complete opposite, but anyway). So I edited the parts out that were passive aggressive but someone kept putting it back, and I dont know why. Anyway, that's my issue. thanks for listening!!

edit: here's some of what i'm talking about

" trying to get the people in the town to understand that Scientologists were not as bad as they thought, which she strongly believed at the time, and still does, for the most part. Even today she reminds people the average Scientologist is basically good, with the executives doing the harmful things. "

this in an encyclopeda to say who a person is? she's using this to spread her personal opinions disguised as something else.

Just a quick thanks.

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There is a certain user on Wikipedia named Jack Harrison (here) who finds it funny to create nonsensical articles and edit other people's so they appear stupid. This is just a quick thanks for reverting my user page, as I cannot stand this childish moron.

tory christman

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hi,in response to that person i've never talked about it on talk because i dont know how to, i just found your username and was able to post something. this website is new to me. so i need to cite a source for her being a prostitute but all the other stuff doesnt need a source? i read in on a bunch of websites but it isnt a big deal whether or not it goes up. i removed the text because it wasnt approrpriate for an encyclodpedia page and that picture of gerry armstrong i didnt mean to say it was mine i just thought becaue i found it. i take that back.

Plane Spotting Reports

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They are encyclopaedic from a plane spotting perspective.KieranMaher 15:45, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Race-Hate edits

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I removed edits. Please do not reedit the article with with race motives. Thank you.86.42.136.83 01:39, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nazi symbols

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Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance)#Nazi symbols Ilya K 12:48, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barney and Friends' Musical Park

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Yes, the translation is correct. Academic Challenger 20:20, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that looks much better. Thanks! (ESkog)(Talk) 21:51, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

why cant i make a page about the funney games website? it is really fun

Reverts

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I do understand that you are trying to revert vandals or suspected sockpuppets, but please note that your recent revert to Hindu Rashtra comes in the middle of a long edit war between a named user - who is just returning from a week long ban - and an anon user, who has been accused - by the named user - of being a sockpuppet. Your revert may have a destabilising effect. Please do be a little more careful in future. Thanks! Hornplease 20:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jirachi J. Wishmaker

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British Columbia aerodromes

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I was in the middle of fixing things and got an edit conflict with you. I'll let you finish. --Usgnus 17:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Let's use the official name for the aerodrome. --Usgnus 17:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hahahaha...

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Dude, I am in no way mad at you for deleting my article, it was called "Chris Palmieri" which is my name, and everything on there is true. It was just an expiriment to see how long it would last on here, not too long I see...well, so yeah, just letting you know that you were the one who ended this weird and bazarre expiriment. Talkk to you later man..


,Chris Palmieri

Answered

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--Yurik 15:42, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lake Margaret

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Thanks for the extra cat - the art needs a cleanup - although I agree with the sentiment of the last para its rather POV. Also I was there the week it was closed - will try uploading some piccies sometime too! SatuSuro 16:52, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Curious as to why you deleted the protected article The Drift (band), thereby allowing a previously deleted article about a NN band be re-created. Logs: [3]. --MichaelZimmer (talk) 17:00, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The SkyFX article you keep deleting on me is not spam its an article just like the ones describing Direcway and others. If you think I didn't add enough about it then feel free to add more but I'd appreciate it if you stopped deleting it.

New VW Sock

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Leyton Hewitt

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Hi. You have just reverted som vandalism on Leyton Hewitt. Thanks! I checked into it, and found thta matters were worse, so the reversion had to go longer back in time. Hope you agree.--HJ 10:37, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barney and friends

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When you give a user three last warnings, you might as well go ahead and take action :D... GofG ||| Contribs 20:35, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

William Bradford AfD

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I don't know how closely you've been following the discussion since putting the William Bradford (professor) article up for AfD, but I'm concerned that there may be some funky things going on with the discussion and the related articles. I think there may even be a possibility that Bradford himself is sockpuppeting the discussion in order to get the article deleted. Part of the Bradford controversy, which has been removed from the current article, is that he was accused of sockpuppeting on the college's student blog. I've been practicing AGF on the AfD and responding as if these are real individuals, but these are the accounts and IPs in the AfD that I am suspicious of:

I'll cover IPs related to the articles later.

Here's why I suspect them:

  • Jonswift: claims to be new, but goes straight to an AfD. After I mention that I'd checked his contribs and noticed that his first and only edits were on this AfD, he joins a few other AfDs in the next half-hour, then disappears. Also, may have been trying to get away with voting two or even three times. His first vote was actually two edits. His second edit starts on the next line, with the words "vote to delete," and reiterates points already made in the first edit. It only looks like one vote because there is only one return, not two. It could be he thought of an extension for his first comment, but it could be a botched attempt to look like two people were voting, the first unsigned, the second a signed user. Later, he leaves a third delete remark, unsigned.
  • "24"/Barbara: All edits are on AfD or its article, until after I mention that I'd checked Jonswift's contribs, after which she visits a couple of other AfDs and vanishes (also, another "24" IP edited the article and a related article on April 16)
  • "128"/Zvonimir: Only other edit (apparently helpful) was back in February, for "List of schools in Colombia." If it's a dynamic IP that gets reassigned from session to session, that could explain the unrelatedness of the edits and why we haven't seen more from this IP. (Or maybe Bradford's now teaching in Colombia?) But what ordinary user (especially if he really is Russian), as their only edit of a session, would go to an AfD (which I believe had already fallen off the "front page"), to comment on how "obscure and unimportant" the person was?
  • Massmato: the subtlest sockpuppet, if it is one. A new account, but clearly not a new user. Doing mostly AfDs (including relatively old, not just recent ones), of which Bradford is only one, but has also tagged a couple of articles for {afd}. Shows clear knowledge of Wiki lingo and policy. It's possible that now that the puppeteer realizes that someone is watching and checking on him, he is trying to hide his singular concern in a flurry of edits. But he could be someone just piling on to an apparently overwhelming bandwagon.
  • Owmyeye: new account, only edits are to article's talk page and the AfD

Of course, that's their contrib history as of the time I'm posting this. If he's watching my edits, he could see this and start whipping up a storm of edits from these accounts.

Here's the background. Researching this case on Google, I found that what finally forced him to resign was evidence that his claim to be a Silver Star-decorated Green Beret turned out to be a peaceful stint in the Army Reserve.[4][5] Since this wasn't in the article, I looked through its history. I found that this information had been in the original version, only to be deleted a number of times.

But it was what happened when I posted my findings to AfD that really aroused my suspicions. You can look at the history, but here are the salient edits:

  • 03:10 UCT, July 20: first Jonswift edit, unsigned
  • 03:19: second Jonswift edit, signed, possible attempt to look like a second voter
  • 03:00, July 21: I post what I'd found out
  • 03:19: Jonswift, who had already posted a delete vote, makes an unsigned comment again calling for delete, but also changes a reference in MY comment to "left-leaning blogs" to read "far left-leaning"; I prepare a note telling him not to edit others' comments
  • 04:27: "24," who calls herself Barbara, makes a post claiming to know him and to vouch for his military service and integrity; the story she tells of a cabal to ruin Bradford would actually make this incident more notable than the media version
  • 04:36: "24" edits my remarks, and has me saying that this was not notable enough, when I'd said I wasn't sure if it was notable enough, and bolds Jonswift's second delete
  • 04:43: when I try to post my reply to Jonswift, I find "24" has edited the page and also changed my remarks. By editing from her first post, I undo her changes (but forgot Jonswift's). I use {unsigned} to identify Jonswift's comment, tell him he shouldn't edit other users' comments, and note that I'd checked his contribs and found that he'd only edited this AfD.
  • 04:52: Jonswift apologizes, says he's "new" and doesn't have all the etiquette down yet
  • 05:09: I also tell "24"/Barbara not to edit my comments, and that it only serves to push me towards keep
  • 05:20: "24" apologizes, and we continue with an amicable exchange
  • 11:34: finally notice "far left" is still in my comment, and I take out "far"
  • 15:10: "128" logs a delete vote, signs Zvonimir
  • 20:44: express my frustration that recent voters are ignoring the evidence I turned up, post more evidence (even though I suspected the reason for their behavior was that many were sockpuppets)
  • 16:53, July 22: Massmato votes delete
  • 19:48: Owmyeye votes delete, makes actual points; I respond

My original intent was to give you time to investigate these charges yourself, before putting up an {afdanons} sign. However, I'm not sure you're still up, so I may end up putting it up before I turn in.

I also mentioned that the AfD's article had been edited and counter-edited. I actually found that the problem editors weren't just the pro-Bradford ones. Here is the timeline:

  • March 6: in a likely unconnected edit, IP 141.217.85.67 changed the article from saying that Bradford was one of "fewer than fifteen" tenure-track Amerind faculty members to "fifty." This was probably vandalism, but that figure has stayed in the article. Checking contribs showed that was the sole Wikipedia edit for that IP.
  • April 16: a series of four edits from IP 24.208.219.233 deleted various passages unfavorable to Bradford ([diff]). Checking contribs shows that the only edits from that IP came during an eight-minute period on April 16, and the other target was the Florence Roisman article. The IP made three edits to that article, removing references to faking his military record and using assumed names on the blog from the account of her conflict with him(cumulative diff).
  • May 5: a section on the military service controversy is added by User:IndyLaw, another one-day editor.
  • May 6: two edits from IP 66.184.168.65 remove the new section (cumulative diff); again, contribs show another one-day editor interested in a single article.
  • July 9: a one-sentence paragraph about him lying about his military service is added by IP 71.108.208.188
  • July 10: sentence deleted by IP 24.250.202.104 (diff); this IP will show up at the AfD
  • July 19: sentence added back by 71.108.208.188; contribs show that the other article he worked on was James Dobson, where he made flamebait POV edits.
  • July 19: as described on AfD, IP 130.94.134.250 deletes the para again, then posts the attack/nn speedy. After you take that down, he posts the PROD. Contribs show this IP to have broader interests than the others, though the edits to Muslim baiting and The Jawa Report are inflammatory POV.
  • July 21: "24" returns from AfD to again edit the article (diff)

--Groggy Dice 06:30, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead and post. --Groggy Dice 07:04, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you speedy deleted ThaMuseMeant as "nn" [6]. The google cache of the page seems to include a list of 5 albums releases and links to third-party coverage, I struggle to understand how this comes anywhere near to being a speedy deletion candidate. Kappa 00:16, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings

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Apologies if infest any of your watched arts with dumb questions, have just come across stuff to do with hydro things in tassie not linked, so I ask dumb questions! Thanks for not being hassled about that :) SatuSuro 07:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC) That was the most obvious one - I just thought I'd warn you if you found things from me in cat listings or other places, at least you have been warned! :) best wishes SatuSuro 07:58, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Beaver, iz dat you, bwoi?

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Hey. :) Just stopped by to thank you for dealing with the puerile vandalism on my talk and user pages. (Thanks) And I saw your photo. How cute were you?!! Here's hoping you and Wally, June and Ward are all doing well. Cheers. deeceevoice 09:07, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ha! But aren't we all (hopefully) getting old(er)? Well, "old and gray" maybe. But, ah, those freckles. Definitely cute. :) Enjoy your Wiki break. Peace. deeceevoice 09:16, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You have an entry on yourself! I was creating one for a friend and his business. I forwarded him an article from the Onion today that I thought was funny about Wikipedia and he didn't get it. So, I figured before I put a real entry in here, I would reference some of the jokes in the article so that he would see the connection. Apparently, you didn't get it either.

Most probably right about the surface, when I've seen the airstrip the runway was covered in snow, so I haven't actually seen it. Qyd 21:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nunavut/Northwest Territories

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I am now working on a few geographic articles on Canada, mostly trying to document populations and land areas. You'll probably see me hitting British Columbia next.

Great to hear from you, Alan. Keep up the good work. And watch out for polar bears!

What's an Englishman doing living up in the middle of nowhere, anyway?

Backspace 22:20, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New Wikipedian

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Hi !

Thank very much for your friendly welcome :-)

I was already a contributor on French & Spanish Wikipedia, not from a long time - but the en.wikipedia is far most complete and I can't resist to edit here too. Indeed I'am actually essentially a careful reader and most of my contributions was to correct typing error or very little mistake on some articles. Hope to contribute more consistently in the next month, with more experience. (talk --ManuelfromParis 20:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What's the opposite to the Five Pillars, I wonder. The sequence

  1. Repeated "hilarious" vandalism, together with uploading "sidesplitting" images such as "Tony Blair with a moustache and beard drawn on"
  2. Utterly denying said "hilarious" vandalism despite the contribution and upload log evidence
  3. Getting blocked and responding on WP:AIV by slagging off a well-respected Wikipedian and again denying the evidence in the logs
  4. {{unblock}} request containing accusations of bias and incompetence

must be getting close to it! Tonywalton  | Talk 11:39, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, there it is. Step 5 - "threaten to go and complain to Jimbo". Perfect. Tonywalton  | Talk 11:57, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: unblocking him - I can see an argument for unblocking him and mentoring his every move, rather than having him work out that sockpuppetry is fun and everyone having to start this nonsense again… Nah - maybe not! Tonywalton  | Talk 12:10, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]