User talk:CaityLam

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Hello! I've been tasked by PDSA to update the information about our charity accordingly but the edits have been removed. I'm also looking to update our other pages but before I go ahead, can you assist please? The edits I made were entirely factual and to update the tone of voice to accurately reflect PDSA's brand. For example, we should not be referred to as 'the PDSA' as this in incorrect. Can the edits I made please be restored?

I am also the only PDSA employee using this account, as it was made with my personal email address.

Much appreciated, Caitlin :)

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The text you added to the article about your organization was blatant promotion. Wikipedia is not interested in how an organization describes itself(you can do that on your own website and social media) on in describing it as the organization might wish for marketing/branding purposes; Wikipedia is primarily interested in what independent reliable sources choose on their own to say about an organization. If you were to propose those edits as edit requests, they would not be accepted.

I would lastly read WP:BOSS and have your superiors read it too. Feel free to show them this post as well. 331dot (talk) 17:01, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Hello, CaityLam, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

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Re: Looking for help

Hey Caitlin. I was the one who reverted your edits. If you will give me a moment, I will examine them more closely so I can give you better feedback.

Kingsmasher678 (talk) 16:41, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Caitlin,

The largest problems are in the form of WP:NPOV and WP:Promotion violations. As you stated in your edit summary, you are looking to "reflect current Brand tone of voice". This is not appropriate content for Wikipedia, since we present all articles in a neutral point of view and a neutral tone. This is not to say that you can't change factually incorrect information, (though that is discouraged per Wikipedia:Conflict of interest), just that the tone of encyclopedic content must be maintained.

More alarmingly, you removed sourced and factual information in several spots, which is VERY discouraged, especially by a COI editor. If you have any more questions feel free to reach out. You can also leave a request for edit on the article's talk page, found here.

Thanks, Kingsmasher678 (talk) 16:51, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello :)

I'll review my changes and resubmit a new draft. However, a lot of what I removed is no longer relevant or accurate for the wiki page. When I clicked into a lot of the sources, they cites articles from random publications with no actual evidence of these stories or events (of which we have no recorded record of either, so I didn't think it was in wiki's best interest to have them included either as).

I also believe reflecting PDSA's brand TOV is neutral. Especially when removing incorrect phrasing.

I'll review your feedback in more depth and come back.

Can you confirm how to submit a draft edit for review? CaityLam (talk) 17:03, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have only created one article here so I actually can't help with that. The brand POV is by definition not neutral, because it is YOUR brand. Wikipedia isn't for promotion of ideas, despite the fact that your organization does seem pretty awesome. Make a disclosure of paid editing, and then make edits without a positive or negative tone. If you are wondering about an edit, please feel free ask me a question about it. In fact, if you want to remain unblocked, you should ask someone about most or all edits you make. In realty, it would likely be best to do as WP:BOSS suggests and to follow the ideas and policy given there.

Thanks, Kingsmasher678 (talk) 17:13, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you take issue with content, leave a request on the talk page and someone will look at it and decide if it should be added.

Kingsmasher678 (talk) 17:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]