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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! ^{(Cheers! Want Anything? Chatty?)}_babylarm 20:57, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Articles for creation/Marc Ericksen

Excirial,

I felt the page I submitted is covered by the notability statute in as much as the art for videogame packages were only actually PAINTED ( caps for emphasis Excirial...not emotion, honest) for a very finite amount of time. That window covered the very early games wherein the pixelated characters were so primitive as to actually require definition by an outside source, ie: the illustrator. This was processed in creative meetings between game developers and illustrators for the purposes of packaging and selling the product.

There occurred over the ensuing 20 years (1980- 2000) an actual crossing point, where the skills of the artists melded into the technical: Going from the hand drawn and hand painted; into the Photoshop end cg world, while the skills (and more importantly, the hardware and software) of the programmers began to accelerate more and more quickly into cg realms that no longer required definition by an outside agent, again, the illustrator.

At that point illustrations began to be extracted from the actual game employees, ie: programmers and animators, and the old line concept of ILLUSTRATING COVERS BY HAND AS PAINTINGS DISAPPEARED.

Make no mistake, the illustrations used today for gaming are far advanced over the work my compatriots and myself used to produce, but here is the telling issue: TANGIBLE PAINTED ILLUSTRATIONS ARE DISAPPEARING. Today I work in Photoshop. I send my files to clients as data.

And this is not only true in gaming, but in all walks of illustration. IF I were to walk into a design firm today with a painting under my arm, my clients would literally not KNOW what to do with it.

By naming my entry 'retro videogame artist', my example presents a notable milestone regarding the demise of the physical painting in the illustration world. Should I perhaps describe more fully the loss of hand painting and tangible paintings?

The Notability is this: While computer gaming gave illustration a great boost in 1980, within the technology itself, were the seeds that ended illustration as it had been known since the dawn of civilization. There are no longer physically extant paintings being done for the illustration market as we know it, outside of boutique editorial applications.

Additionally many of the companies and personalities I mention already have Wiki entries: Broderbund. The Carlston family. Kieth Zabalauie, Ed Rains, Activision, Sega, and many many of the games I illustrated can be found in Wikipedia, and many of my original illustrations are found there in graphic manner as well.

Further, can you let me know how to use sources not indicated in your sourcing drop down menu (journals-web-papers-books)? Things like military records, DD-214 etc.? Or college records for graduation and degrees, etc?

Wow! ...Thanks for the time, I appreciate all your efforts with wiki. It's a fantastic tool and platform for the new world in which we live.---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by C0martman (talk • contribs) 23:19, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hiyas there C0martman,

Whew, that was a whole lot of text to read - somewhat rare to have someone around on my talk page who is as much into verbosity as i am :). Before anything else i would have to say that the page itself is a bit of an oddity - or perhaps exotic is the right term to use in this instance. I have seen quite a few article subjects being submitted, but I'm fairly sure this is the first video gaming related artist that i ever saw. In cases where art is involved, one would have to pass the criteria set in the artist notability guideline. Yet the artist criteria are mostly intended for the museum / gallery type artist, which is quite different from video game related work.

Because of that, I'd would say that the general notability guideline applies there. This means that (to be included on Wikipedia) the subject of the article must have received nontrivial coverage in multiple works that pass the reliable sources criteria. This would be newspapers, magazines, books - anything that can be considered reliable.

In cases where you wish to cite something not present in the dropdown list, you can use the citation template. The citation template is more or less the "parent" of every citation substyle. The downside of it is that you have to paste and fill it manually, rather then using the interface dropdown.

With kind regards, Excirial^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 19:58, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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