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September 2019

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Baton Rouge, Louisiana, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:33, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did on Baton Rouge, Louisiana. This violates Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:38, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Research

All information provided is actually cited in the same source material currently available Bwash88 (talk) 17:39, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

September 2019

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Most of your edit was either sourced by Wikipedia or genealogytrails; cut-and-pasted from sources cited; unsourced; or not supported by the source cited. Please stop your disruptive editing. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:29, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

All of my sources were sources correctly based on Wikipedia rules. All edits are sourced correctly. Please actually look at the sources before commenting inaccurately. I will add again soon with yet again proper sources. Bwash88 (talk) 23:59, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

• Well, the sources here don't even matter--you wrote ad copy for the city. I mean, Baton Rouge needs some positive news, but Wikipedia is not for advertising. Drmies (talk) 01:48, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

I am not writting an ad for city. I am merely stating the facts about the city. Wikipedia does in fact allow for factually citied information. No different than any other city. New Orleans Wikipedia is just about the same as which I have written Bwash88 (talk) 13:05, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Material

I am not writting an ad for city. I am merely stating the facts about the city. Wikipedia does in fact allow for factually citied information. No different than any other city. New Orleans Wikipedia is just about the same as which I have written Bwash88 (talk) 02:04, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

If you don't mean to write an ad for the city, then I suggest you re-evaluate your tone and your choice of sources. Some examples:

• "Baton Rouge has become not only an leader in the American South but continues to make headlines nationally as a growing economic hub" - full of fluff. It leads whom, precisely, by what metric? "makes headlines nationally" in what newspapers? How much is it growing? I don't see any facts here. And the source is a press release by an organization that very much is advertising the state.
• "Privately Owned Turner Industries is Top ranked by Energy New Record." - off-topic, devoid of context, and the source is Turner Industries.
• "Today, Dow Louisiana is the largest petrochemical company in the state, providing jobs for more than 6,000 Dow and contract employees, and pumping over $1 billion into the state’s economy each year." - "Pumping"? I don't doubt that they pump petrochemicals, but I do doubt that they have a money pump. Also, how is that relevant to Baton Rouge? And the source is Dow.
• "In addition Southern University's Nursing school is a perennial top ranked nursing school in the country." - not only is the source Southern University, it doesn't even say what it's cited for.

I didn't see a single reliable source that's independent of the entity it's used for. Even if the sources indeed were reliable, the tone would still not be acceptable. Huon (talk) 19:59, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I have gone back and corrected all sources with outside sources that do no include the organization. I have also adjusted some tone issues as well , though I followed the similar rubric used in other cities Wikipedia. Each section is removed of any bias and backed by credible sourcing. I will add that current sources already had cities material from publications that promote the city hence why I used those type of sources.

We should be good now Bwash88 (talk) 18:51, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Three editors have removed the content you have been adding to Baton Rouge, Louisiana because it is overtly promotional, and because your sources are unreliable and biased. User:Huon and others have left suggestions on your talk page, which you have ignored. If you are a paid editor, this must be declared, and I will leave you a separate note about that. I urge you to read WP:NOTADVERTISING, in addition to the links suggested above. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:39, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

I have change not only the tone but also used reliable sources. I used other cities Wikipedia pages as a rubric. Such a as New Orleans , Ft worth , and Dallas. I even had a separate party review to make sure I did come off as bias and the language was similar to the other cities. All sources currently used are reliable. Please let me know what further rules or edits I need to follow. I have adjusted each and every time. Bwash88 (talk) 13:33, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Please provide specific examples of bias tone sentences. And please provide specific examples of unreliable and unbiased sources. I need to know to if it is true , I can adjust. Thank you. Bwash88 (talk) 13:37, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

September 2019

Hello Bwash88. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, such as the edit you made to Baton Rouge, Louisiana, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat SEO.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists, and if it does not, from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Bwash88. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Bwash88|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:40, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

I am not being paid directly or indirectly for any edits whatsoever. Bwash88 (talk) 13:29, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

./User:Magnolia677 have you Checked my answer. I need to know in order to proceed with my edits. Thank you. I will give 72hours for a response otherwise I will proceed. Bwash88 (talk) 21:09, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Copyright

I have cautioned you about violating copyrights by adding cut-and-paste edits. With this edit you wrote:

The social life of Scotlandville at this time was very limited. The town had only a few residents and at night they would gather at each other homes and tell folk-tales that were transferred to them from the previous generations. On the other hand, there was a social phenomenon that the citizens of Scotlandville enjoyed, it was a secret organization called the “Odd Fellows.” This was a fraternity that gave the community a sense of social mobility.

The text in the undergraduate essay you sourced reads:

The social life of Scotlandville at this time was very limited. The town had only a few residents and at night they would gather at each other homes and tell folk-tales that were transferred to them from the previous generations. On the other hand, there was a social phenomenon that the citizens of Scotlandville enjoyed, it was a secret organization called the “Odd Fellows.” This was a fraternity that gave the community a sense of social mobility.

Other parts of your edit were not supported by the source cited, or were also completely plagiarized from the source cited. This contravenes Wikipedia's policies regarding copyright. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:46, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

So would that source have need to be quoted ? Also what other edits were not supported by the source or plagiarized? If you are going to make statements and reverse my edits please provide evidence. Bwash88 (talk) 16:52, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Scotlandville, Baton Rouge, Louisiana

With this edit at Scotlandville, Baton Rouge, Louisiana you wrote :

To this day many maps still have Scotlandville as a separate entity than Baton Rouge. Scotlandville has its own unique culture and traditions that make it very distinctive in the area. It is much more than a neighborhood, being that it encompasses different neighborhoods, social economic backgrounds and educational backgrounds.

You used this source to support your edit. I was unable to locate any mention of Scotlandville's "unique culture and traditions" or any mention of maps. Could you please tell me where this is written in the source cited? Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:04, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Magnolia677 From looking at the cite, I used the incorrect citation. I also wrote the about the maps based on information told verbally from City planning and Zoning however there is not written documentation to address it. So I will omit it. Is there anything else you would like me to address specifically? for Convenience purposes I will put the whole draft in this Talk page so you can address it line by line before being posted.

Scotlandville is a community in northern Baton Rouge, Louisiana. It was originally a small, independent rural community that developed along the Mississippi river in northern East Baton Rouge Parish. Originally being called Scotland due to the high bluff facing the Mississippi River called Scott’s bluff, much of Scotlandville was former a plantation that was settled by former slaves of the plantation and other families from the surrounding areas. In its early years there was not much growth in the community only having one African American family and a few more Italian families. It drastically grew in population so much that it became the largest African American town in Louisiana. At its peak population numbers reached 30,000.

Gradually Scotlandville became industrialized, beginning with a Standard Oil refinery in 1909, and was a destination of African Americans to urban areas in the Great Inward Migration beginning around World War I. This type of migration saw large amounts of African Americans moving from rural communities to urbanized communities within local proximity instead of the traditional Great Migration. Its growth was stimulated also by construction of railroads along the Mississippi River. With the relocated Southern University, Scotlandville again took another turn as being the hub for African American public higher education in Louisiana.

History

In an area long occupied by indigenous peoples, Scotlandville was gradually settled after the United States acquired this territory. It was a rural area farmed after the Civil War by an assortment of European Americans and freedmen.The only documented African-American family living in the village before the establishment of Southern University in 1914 was that of William "Dreher" Kelly and his wife Priscilla. Evidence has been uncovered which supports the hypothesis that many former slaves did not walk away after been freed but remained on the plantation of their former master. Some persons, however, did move into the area from other places. The area was mostly farmland into the early 20th century, with other black farmers and sharecroppers. Scotlandville grew to little town that is geographically located on the west by the Mississippi River, on the east by the Plank Road, on the south by Highway 190 and on the north by Thomas Road. It became largest Black town in the state of Louisiana and is about 97% populated with African-American people. The citizens of Scotlandville, for the most part, do not know how it got its beginning or who settled there first. However, one long time citizen said, “that Scotlandville was first called Showen, Louisiana and was later changed to Scotlandville because of the bluff alongside the Mississippi.

In 1911, Scotlandville was nothing but a farm area and a hunting ground. It was popular for deer hunting. The area was mostly farmland into the early 20th century, with other black farmers and sharecroppers. The first grocery store in Scotlandville was owned by an Italian, Willie Drago. It was located on Scenic Highway and Swan Street. Scotlandville at this time did not have a very active social class. The community’s small amount of residents mainly kept to their homes as gathering spaces for storytelling and news of the day. It was not until the Odd Fellow organization that the society began a more outward social culture.

In 1912 the state of Louisiana bought 531 acres in Scotlandville for the construction of the relocated Southern University and A&M College, a historically black college and land grant college. The state legislature wanted it moved from New Orleans to an area with more land. The state later acquired another 372 acres to support the agricultural portion of its curriculum. Southern University was built on Scott's Bluff overlooking the Mississippi River. Even though the University was going to be located on the Kernan Plantation purchased by the state, the area continued to be referred to as Scotland due to the Scotts Bluff being the river entryway into the land. A natural harbor of the river was the location of a landing post for shiploads of slaves who were carried to or from New Orleans, prior to the Civil War. Isaac Franklin, a noted slave trader, reported the landing of slaves at this locale. The earliest settlement on the banks of the River, near this landing post, was spearheaded by a cotton planter named Scott Before there was an official name for the town some parts were called Scot’s Bluff. This name was given because 80% to 90% of the traveled movement of people and freight was by boat and the name of the boat landing or post was Scot’s Bluff.19. Sometime following the Reconstruction Era the land area was given an official name. After many proposals and suggestions, it was, officially, designated as Scotlandville, Louisiana.

Scotlandville grew into a business hub and self-sustaining community. It provided doctors, dentists, bus lines, gas stations, grocery stores and more. It even had its own post office and train. What makes this community unique is that it has kept much of its culture of rural to urban life.

When Standard Oil Company opened a processing plant here in 1909, it attracted many new workers, including rural black migrants from other areas of the state, and immigrants from Eastern and Southern Europe. It operated for decades, providing good jobs for graduates of Southern University.

After World War II, black veterans such as Acie Belton of Scotlandville organized voter registration drives in order to overcome the disenfranchisement of most African Americans. In 1946 there were only 137 black voters registered in East Baton Rouge Parish. In the next few years, he and others increased the number of black registered voters in the parish to more than 2,000, mostly from Scotlandville. Knowing that engagement in politics was critical, they and other leaders continued with civil rights activities into the 1960s and later. They established the Second Ward Voters League during this early registration movement, and it still is active in evaluating and endorsing candidates. Scotlandville has a rich culture and is a close-knit community with residents that are striving for a better quality of living.

Incorporation controversy

Scotlandville has had a very controversial past with incorporation. It had an unsuccessful effort back in the 1940s to incorporate as a town which the city council rejected. For much of its history Scotlandville has viewed itself as its own entity being neighbors but not a part of the city of Baton Rouge proper. It again made an effort in the 1970 which the whole parish voted against. Subsequently a small group within Scotlandville lobbied to become a part of city of Baton Rouge. Much of the residents were against it but the small groups citing needs for resources and access ended up winning out. Thus unincorporated town of Scotlandville became part of the city of Baton Rouge in the 1980s. . Scotlandville has its own unique culture and traditions that make it very distinctive in the area. It is much more than a neighborhood, being that it encompasses different neighborhoods, social economic backgrounds and educational backgrounds.

Government and infrastructure

Today Scotlandville is a community within Baton Rouge and overseen by its government, The East Baton Rouge Parish government.

Country: United States

State: Louisiana

City: Baton Rouge

Planning District: District 2 (partial) District 10 (partial)

Community District North Baton Rouge

Settled: 1865 named 1878

Named for: Scots Bluff (Istrouma Bluff)

Area

• Total: 3.146sq mi

Population (2016)

• Total 17,751

• Density: 3284/sq. mi

Economics

• Median income: $38,790

Time zone: UTC−6 (Central) • Summer (DST) UTC−5. (EDT)

Area code: 225

Politically, Scotlandville is in Louisiana‘s 2nd Congressional District. It is in the Louisiana state senate districts 14 and 15, Louisiana legislative district’s 29th and 63rd districts.

The East Baton Rouge Parish Library operates the Scotlandville Branch Library. The library first opened on July 1, 1974, in a leased property, in a 2,550-square-foot (237 m²) building of a strip-style shopping center controlled by Horatio Thompson. The library temporarily closed on August 20, 2001. It moved into a 17,985-square-foot (1,670.9 m²) stand-alone building and reopened in October 2001.

Jetson Center for Youth (JCY), a former youth prison operated by the Louisiana Office of Juvenile Justice (OJJ) in a nearby unincorporated area close to Baker, is near Scotlandville and was at one time known by the same name. In January 2014 the residents were relocated to other Office of Juvenile Justice facilities, and JCY was closed. As of 2017 Jetson housed Louisiana Correctional Institute for Women (LCIW) prisoners displaced by flooding as well as the LCIW administration.

While still independent, Scotlandville became a large black community with business owners, schools, land owners and a culture of self-sufficiency. Many residents often spoke about Scotlandville never wanted for anything because it had everything. In the 20th century, with much push back from the community it was incorporated into Baton Rouge.

The boundaries for Scotlandville are the Mississippi River to the west, Thomas Road to the north, Plank road to the east, and airline highway to the south. Scotlandville is a very important staple in understanding the African-American rural to urban culture as well as being breeding grounds for education, farming, business and music such as the blues.

Geography

Due to its unique location Scotlandville sits on the Istrouma Bluff. This makes it one of the highest points within the East Baton Rouge Parish making it least likely to flood. It has the Mississippi River as the major water way. Other waterways are Lake Kernan, Bayou Monte Sano, and Devils Swamp.

Demographics

As of the census estimate of 2013, there were 11,217 people As of the 2016 there were 13,155 people.

Like many black communities in the south, the community has grown from a former plantation with a small rural village to small urbanized town. In 1914, only a small number of African-American families lived in the village in when Southern University and A&M College was relocated to this community. Originally based in New Orleans, the university was designated in 1890 as the state's land grant college for African Americans, when education was segregated in the state. The only non-black families were Italian families who were at that time viewed as lower class than the greater Anglo community. Gradually Scotlandville became industrialized, beginning with a Standard Oil refinery in 1909, and was a destination of African Americans to urban areas in the Inward Great Migration beginning around World War I. Its growth was stimulated also by construction of railroads along the Mississippi River. In 1960, the population of Scotlandville was 18,433, of which 3,676, or 20%, was White and 14,575, or 80%, was Black (U.S. Census, 1960). According to the U.S. Census (1970), the total population of the state of Louisiana was 3,643,180, of which 2,241,298, or 70%, was White, 1,086,839, or 30%, was Black, and 858 persons belonged to other races. The population of Scotlandville in 1970 was 22,557, of which only 1,850, or 8.2%, was White; the rest of the population-numbering 20,677, or 91.8%-was Black (U.S. Census 1970). This means that within one decade, the racial imbalance in Scotlandville intensified by more than 11%-that is to say, there was a 50% decrease in the white population. The black population in Scotlandville peaked in 1970s, with a 30,832 the population which included the University. As of 2010, Scotlandville ‘s black population comprised roughly 17,000 showing black population that is declining due to many African Americans moving out and the University enrollment shrinking.

Education

The East Baton Rouge Parish School System manages the public schools from K-12. Scotlandville Magnet High School is located in Scotlandville. Southern University Laboratory School, K-12 is also located in Scotlandville. Press L. Robinson, a Southern University administrator and professor of chemistry, was the first African American elected to the parish school board in modern times. He served for 22 years, including one term as vice-president and three terms as president.

Southern University and A&M College has been located in Scotlandville since 1914. From a small school of 500 students through 1938, in the post-World War II era, it expanded to 10,000 students by the late 1960s and through the 1990s. From the beginning, the presence of the college stimulated related businesses and encouraged more blacks to settle in the area, including faculty and staff. This became the largest black-majority community in the state before World War II.

The community college for area residents is Baton Rouge Community College, founded in 1995.

Economy

Historically, the financial weaknesses of the citizens of Scotlandville have been poor. The failure for this financial downfall may be placed into two categories. One is the result of large families and the other is that the residents have not placed their values on the right necessities of life. Not being educated enough to budget themselves along with large families, and also working for small salaries gave the citizens of Scotlandville a tremendous set-back economically. During the 1960’s the populace of Scotlandville organized the “Scotlandville Federal Credit Union.” The purpose of the credit union was to assist the Scotlandville residents financially and also to educated them about the high rate of interest at finance companies. An additional point about the stability of residents of the Scotlandville community was home ownership. Although the median annual income of the people of Scotlandville was $6,538, about two thirds that of Baton Rouge, the percentage of home ownership in the two communities was nearly equal: According to Steptoe and Poister (1973), 38% of those interviewed owned their homes, and 31% were buying their houses (p. 5). The home owning level had been significantly influenced by the fact that about 20% of the applicable household-head participants in the labor force were professional workers, mostly University and public school teachers.

Sites located in or near Scotlandville that are important to African American history

Southern University system (Including Southern University Law center, Southern University Agriculture center, Southern University Museum of African Art,)

Scott’s Bluff

Southern Heights subdivision

JS Clark Memorial Golf Park

Culture

The following is a documented historical account of Scotlandville taken from the writings of Willie B Webber

“Growing up a Scotlandville provided me with many notable and cherished memories such as”:

1. Henry Simms. The first self - appointed truant Officer and Juvenile Correctional Officer. His legs were amputated at the knees and he rode a White Horse through the Scotlandville area. All children respected his presence. They went to school and stayed there. He checked at school daily to see if any children were absent or had been misbehaving. In the summer all children took a nap in the middle of the day because Henry Simms said do it. When he was cited by one child, his name rang out and was passed on all over the area to warn all children to go inside and “take your nap”

2. Scotlandville Rosenwald School Board Members Fred Davis, Amanda Kelly, Annie B. Knox and Amelia Lewis. The main purposes were to hire good teachers plan activities to raise money to buy school supplies, help with the provisioning of free lunch and support many other school related and recreational activities for children.

3. The mad dog and hobo warning-whenever these were in area at the first citing someone would holler out and someone far away would hear und holler out until the word was all over Scotlandville , to watch out and be aware of possible danger.

4. Train rides from the old train station to New Orleans.

5. The Tolling of the church bell to let everyone know a member had died.

6. Many people wore Costumes all day Mardi Gras Day, roaming the area, partying and sometimes frightening children.

7. Street Fairs in the 8400 block of Scotland Ave or on Rosenwald Rd. In the summer there were ferris wheels, flying Horses, swings, cotton candy, peanuts, popcorn, ice cream, snowballs, pickles and games of all kinds.

8. Movies of Cook’s Theater

9. Candle Marches and suppers given to raise money for the church.

10. Revival week Mt. Caramel followed by a big baptizing in the lake at S U

11. Children looked up to preachers, teachers and community leaders as role models for someone to pattern their dress, speech, morality and discipline after.

12. Mrs. Alvin Eugene Eames, the self-appointed recreational leader for children through Church activities. Mrs. Eames was a member of the Methodist church but she gathered Children from any denomination to participate in field trips, retreats, dramas, style shows and Tom Thumb weddings. We took trips to Bay St. Louis, Abita Springs, Lincoln beach and other recreational areas

13. Community recreational activities for youth at Anna T Jordan Recreation Center (team sports, individual sports, the waistline parties, dramas, etc.)

14. Church (Mount Carmel BC) Easter Sunrise service and Easter egg hunts.

15. Vacation Bible School and Culminating Trips and fun days

16. Participating in the end of school activities involving students from all parish Schools (black)

17. John Earl " Pool " Simms worked at Riegers Drug store. He allowed us to read the funny books with the promise to bring them back in “like New” condition. When we tried return then he would loud talk us by yelling “Don’t try to give these back to me, you have then all the reading off of them”. As embarrassing as it was were repeated the same ritual when the new books came in.

18 Scotlandville Baseball Team “The White Sox”.

19. Acie Belton -Political and Civil Rights activist

20. The Louisiana Education Association (LEA) Building on Scenic Hwy, under the guidance of J K Haynes”

You can still see black horse riders to this day trotting the streets, and pulling up at local corner stores parking their animals as if it was a car. Many traditions still take place but not in the public sphere. The resident will be quick to tell you that Scotlandville is not a neighborhood but a community or town filled with different neighborhoods. The culture has always been about self-sufficiency, education, and growth.

References

• Emanuel, Rachel L.; Ruby Jean Simms; and Charles Vincent. Scotlandville. Arcadia Publishing, June 1, 2015. ISBN 1439651582, 9781439651582.

Category:Geography of Baton Rouge, Louisiana

Bwash88 (talk) 01:00, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

October 2019

Please stop your disruptive editing.

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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. At Scotlandville, Baton Rouge, Louisiana, User:Jerm, User:Arjayay, and myself have reverted your edits; and at Baton Rouge, Louisiana, User:Drmies, User:Huon, and myself have reverted your edits. Please take a moment to read the cautions on your talk page, and stop your disruptive editing. Thank you.

Magnolia677 (talk) 22:14, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Would you like to have a open editor conversation about my edits? I really don’t understand your reversal without concrete evidence. It seems as though it is purely opinion based and if I am not mistake Wikipedia rules prohibit that. My edits are not only back by credible sources but are in line with many other cities descriptions. Please let me know the talk page we can go over line by line. The last time you asked if I was a paid sponsor and you did not reply after I replied. My goal is to have the accurate up to date information about the City of Baton Rouge. Bwash88 (talk) 22:21, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Bwash88, Magnolia677 Content dispute must always be discussed at the articles talk page. Jerm (talk) 22:45, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. I will post in both. Bwash88 (talk) 23:03, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

@Jerm: This isn't a content dispute. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:11, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

@magnolia677 what is this exactly? Bwash88 (talk) 23:15, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

• A quick look tells me that you need to cite reliable sources. I don't know why you'd think you can cite some ExxonMobil website. Drmies (talk) 00:06, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

So Exxon mobile can’t be a source on Exxon mobile products? Explain that one. Bwash88 (talk) 00:10, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Bwash88 please read WP:PROMOTION. — Jerm (talk) 00:17, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

So if I’m understanding you. I should an outside source to describe the products Exxon makes ? Bwash88 (talk) 00:19, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Would the below citations suffice ?

Bwash88 (talk) 01:08, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Also please look at the talk page to address line by line any corrections or suggestions you may see fit to address. Bwash88 (talk) 01:26, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Magnolia677 User:Drmies, User:Huon User:Jerm, User:Arjayay   Please look at my edits on the talk pages for Scotlandville, Baton Rouge, Louisiana and  Baton Rouge, Louisiana  I would like to make sure all rules were correct.