User talk:Bujojohn

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Ewu Monastery

Sources, please.Xx236 (talk) 10:14, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interest in Wikipedia

Hi Bujojohn. I work on conflict of interest issues here in Wikipedia, along with regular my editing. Your edits to date are on a bit of a run about Anselm Adodo and the company and monastery associated with him, and are generally promotional. I'm giving you notice of our Conflict of Interest guideline and Terms of Use, and will have some comments and requests for you below.

Hello, Bujojohn. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic, and it is important when editing Wikipedia articles that such connections be completely transparent. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:

avoid editing or creating articles related to you and your family, friends, school, company, club, or organization, as well as any competing companies' projects or products;
instead, you are encouraged to propose changes on the Talk pages of affected article(s) (see the {{request edit}} template);
when discussing affected articles, disclose your COI (see WP:DISCLOSE);
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exercise great caution so that you do not violate Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Please take a few moments to read and review Wikipedia's policies regarding conflicts of interest, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. Thank you.

Comments and requests

Wikipedia is a widely-used reference work and managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. As in academia, COI is managed here in two steps - disclosure and a form of peer review. Please note that there is no bar to being part of the Wikipedia community if you want to be involved in articles where you have a conflict of interest; there are just some things we ask you to do (and if you are paid, some things you need to do).

Disclosure is the most important, and first, step. While I am not asking you to disclose your identity (anonymity is strictly protecting by our WP:OUTING policy) would you please disclose if you have some connection with Adodo, the company, or the monastery, directly or through a third party (e.g. a PR agency or the like)? You can answer how ever you wish (giving personally identifying information or not), but if there is a connection, please disclose it. After you respond (and you can just reply below), I can walk you through how the "peer review" part happens and then, if you like, I can provide you with some more general orientation as to how this place works. Please reply here, just below, to keep the discussion in one place. Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 04:44, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You have logged in and edited (diff) since I posted above. Would you please reply? Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 18:49, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re Comments and requests

@Jytdog:I was a member of the Ewu Monastery community until 2006. I have seen a lot of changes since then that made me feel the happenings there will be of public benefit if documented on Wikipedia. I don't know yet if this is a sufficient reason for COI. I was not paid by anybody to do what I did. What was done was done because I saw a need for the affected entities to be on Wikipedia already. I hope to work on other articles in the nearest future when I am able to find the time. Being a very busy person, I did make the entries which was made during a recent vacation. To the best of my understanding (which may not be good enough) of the Wikipedia's guidelines, I was neutral and had not any intentions of promoting the entities written about.--Bujojohn (talk) 05:57, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Would you please be more clear about your relationship with Anselm Adodo and with the company? You didn't answer about those two. Thanks! Jytdog talk 06:04, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Jytdog: Anselm Adodo founded Paxherbals and live in the monastery. The monastery "own" both Anselm Adodo and Paxherbals. I used to with live together with Anselm Adodo as co-members of the monastery and worked with him as expected on many projects including Paxherbals before leaving in 2006.--Bujojohn (talk) 06:43, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for making that more clear. So you have a COI for these three topics, as we define that in Wikipedia.

To finish the disclosure piece, would you please add the disclosure to your user page. Just something simple like: "I know Anselm Adodo and worked at Paxherbals and lived in the Ewu Monastery" would be fine. If you want to add anything else there that is relevant to what you want to do in WP feel free to add it, but please don't add anything promotional about the company (see WP:USERPAGE for guidance if you like).

I added a tag to the three articles' talk pages, so the disclosure is done there. Once you disclose on your user page, the disclosure piece of this will be done.

As I noted above, there are two pieces to COI management in WP. The first is disclosure. The second is a form of peer review. This piece may seem a bit strange to you at first, but if you think about it, it will make sense. In Wikipedia, editors can immediately publish their work, with no intervening publisher or standard peer review -- you can just create an article, click save, and voilà there is a new article, and you can go into any article, make changes, click save, and done. No intermediary - no publisher, no "editors" as that term is used in the real world. So the bias that conflicted editors tend to have, can go right into the article. Conflicted editors are also really driven to try to make the article fit with their external interest. If they edit directly, this often leads to big battles with other editors.

What we ask editors to do who have a COI and want to work on articles where their COI is relevant, is:

a) if you want to create an article relevant to a COI you have, create the article as a draft through the WP:AFC process, disclose your COI on the Talk page, and then submit the draft article for review (the AfC process sets up a nice big button for you to click when it is ready) so it can be reviewed before it publishes (too late for this now!); and

b) And if you want to change content in any existing article on a topic where you have a COI, we ask you to propose content on the Talk page for others to review and implement before it goes live, instead of doing it directly yourself. You can make the edit request easily - and provide notice to the community of your request - by using the "edit request" function as described in the conflict of interest guideline. I made that easy for you by adding a section to the beige box at the top of the Talk page at the articles- there is a link at "request corrections or suggest content" in that section -- if you click that, the Wikipedia software will automatically format a section in which you can make your request. You can also add a {{request edit}} tag to flag it for other editors to review.

By following those "peer review" processes, editors with a COI can contribute where they have a COI, and the integrity of WP can be protected. We get some great contributions that way, when conflicted editors take the time to understand what kinds of proposals are OK under the content policies. (which I will say more about, if you want).

I hope that makes sense to you.

I want to add here that per the WP:COI guideline, if you want to directly update simple, uncontroversial facts (for example, correcting the facts about where the company has offices) you can do that directly in the article, without making an edit request on the Talk page. Just be sure to always cite a reliable source for the information you change, and make sure it is simple, factual, uncontroversial content. If you are not sure if something is uncontroversial, please ask at the Talk page.

Will you please agree to follow the peer review processes going forward, when you want to work on these article or any article where your COI is relevant? Do let me know, and if anything above doesn't make sense I would be happy to discuss. And if you want me to quickly go over the content policies, I can do that. Just let me know. Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 06:50, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for making the disclosure on your Userpage. Now that we have talked I am going to clean up the articles. There is content in them that violates some of our core content policies and they need to be fixed, but I wanted to wait until we had the chance to talk. If you want an overview of the policies and guidelines please see the links in the welcome message at the top of this page, and if you like, please see User:Jytdog/How. Thanks again for talking. Jytdog (talk) 07:09, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia and copyright

Hello Bujojohn, and welcome to Wikipedia. All or some of your addition(s) to Anselm Adodo and Paxherbals have been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.

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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:29, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re Wikipedia and copyright
@TonyBallioni: I have seen the areas which I might have deviated from Wikipedia's copyright guidelines. As one new to Wikipedia, I am still trying to find my feet around the guidelines. I have sent OTRS email for all images that may have copyright issues. I would have proceed to effect corrections for texts which may have been flagged as violating copyright but do not yet know if I will be running foul of the COI guidelines doing so. Besides things are now slow with my Wikipedia journey as I am back to my day job again which leaves me little or no time for many non-profit endeavor like working here--Bujojohn (talk) 06:15, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]