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January 2024

Hello, I'm Rehsarb. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Brigadier Gerard (horse), but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Rehsarb (talk) 23:04, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi as Brigadier Gerard's lad during his racing career and having just written a 600 page book about him I feel I am a reliable source. I have documented for over 50 years about his life, his racing career and stud career.

I hope this helps. Brigust (talk) 23:18, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi I have responded to your comments and I hope you agree that I am a reliable source. This is the only Wiki I have written on because it is so close to me and I think my knowledge of this particular subject is unmatched. I do hope this helps. It is a subject very close to my heart. Brigust (talk) 23:44, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

I've just reverted further edits. Please look at Wikipedia:Reliable sources for an understanding on sourcing and citing, and also WP:OVERLINKING to see what should be linked and how often. If you've written a book and had it published, it might be possible to cite that as reference - but also you should try to edit here in an encyclopedic style and not like you would write a book. Bcp67 (talk) 12:38, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

I am sorry for being a nuisance and would very much appreciate an example from the work I have had removed showing what it should look like. A physical example would be wonderful. I am trying to get the best information available to your readers. Laurie Brigust (talk) 12:45, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

OK let's have some examples;

Citing "Brigadier Gerard was winning his fifth race of the season. Of the older horses to win the King George subsequently only four, Brigadier Gerard, Dahlia, Kalaglow and Dylan Thomas were having their fifth race of the season. Of those only one horse won all five races, Brigadier Gerard."

That's a fact and it needs citing to a reliable source. Everything in the article should be referenced to something - a website or a printed source usually. See WP:CITE.

Style If preparations for Brigadier Gerard’s first two races of the season were ‘tricky’ they were about to take on a completely new dimension.

Just two days before the Prince of Wales Stakes at Royal Ascot Joe Mercer, Brigadier Gerard’s jockey, had arranged to ride at the Grand Prix meeting in Brussels. Along with trainer Bill Marshall, and three racing friends. They set off in a light aircraft from Newbury racecourse. The flight was short lived, however, when the plane apparently struck overhead cables and burst into flames before crashing into a marsh. Joe Mercer was thrown clear but returned to the blazing aircraft to assist his friends from the wreckage. They were then helped to safety by two local boys on a fishing trip. Any attempt to help the pilot were thwarted when the petrol tanks exploded and the pilot died at the scene.

Battered, bruised and badly shaken it was decided that Joe Mercer would test his fitness in an early morning gallop on the day of the race. Jimmy Lindley was on stand-by if Joe had failed his fitness test.

This story is tragic but the style isn't enclycopedic. This would be more appropriate;

"Two days before the Prince of Wales's Stakes, Joe Mercer was involved in a plane crash when travelling to Brussels. Mercer was thrown clear but returned to help rescue his fellow passengers, although the pilot was killed. Mercer had to pass a fitness test on the day of the race, with Jimmy Lindley standing by to replace him."

Linking - you link an article once, maybe a couple of times in a long article, not every time you mention it. Mill Reef was linked five times, the KGVI-QE DS five times, Prince of Wales Stakes linked five times - that was the wrong link, to a similarly-named race in Canada. I found 41 links to Joe Mercer, which is far too many, and in any case linked to the footballer and not the jockey. You need to preview before you submit and check your links WP:TESTLINK explains how. Don't link to commonly-known things like Ireland, or Britain. Also check if you are linking to disambiguation pages, which are lists of articles with similar names.

You really need to understand about editing - looks at the Manual of Style WP:MOS and it's many sections. Hope that all helps. Bcp67 (talk) 13:49, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Reference citing the item was accompanied by a graph in the book Brigadier Gerard and Me. Should citing look like this?

"Brigadier Gerard was winning his fifth race of the season. Of the older horses to win the King George subsequently only four, Brigadier Gerard, Dahlia, Kalaglow and Dylan Thomas were having their fifth race of the season. Of the four only one horse won all five races, Brigadier Gerard." Williamson, Laurie. Brigadier Gerard and Me. Brigustbooks, 2021, p.336.

This item was accompanied by a graph in the book.

Plus I will reduce the number of times links are used. Brigust (talk) 20:34, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for you help.

I have added citing to a reliable where required. How do I add the citing references into the references section at the bottom of the item? Brigust (talk) 15:24, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

February 2024

Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Brigadier Gerard (horse), but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 09:49, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi Materialscientist

I have removed the items I believe where a source would be required while I gather the relevant source information and learn how to include it. I hope this helps? I will not add further items where a source would be required. Brigust (talk) 10:39, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

If there are items where a source would be required but I have overlooked them would you please let me know what they are? Brigust (talk) 10:40, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

I have all of the newspaper articles for the applicable races but do not know how to add them to the references section. Can you help and advise please? Brigust (talk) 10:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

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