User talk:Borristhedog

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Hello, Borristhedog, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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Hi Boristhedog. I've added the above template because it contains information that I think you may find helpful. I realize you have yet to edit the article Celliant, but I still think you should read through Wikipedia:Conflict of interest because familiarizing yourself with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines amy help you avoid problems down the road. You also need to be very careful with Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure because it applies to anything you post on Wikipedia on any page related to your company and its products. You might also want to read Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#Contributing to AfD discussions, Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions and Wikipedia:Deletion process to get a general idea as to why Wikipedia articles sometimes get nominated/tagged for deletion and how such deletion-related discussions tend to be resolved. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:48, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Marchjuly. Thank you kindly for this information. I have a lot to learn and this is very helpful. I appreciate your help.

Is this the correct page to post my conflict of interest? Borristhedog (talk) 16:36, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Ideally you should place your conflict of interest on your userpage. Giraffer ^{(talk·contribs)} 16:07, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Understood, done! My user page was blank/hadn't been created so I didn't realize. Thank you! It is there now, kindly let me know if it needs a different format or information. Borristhedog (talk) 16:34, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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MEDRS

Wikipedia has a policy that any articles that relate to medicine/health/diet and so on comply with WP:MEDRS. In vitro and animal research cannot be used as references to support a health statement. Individual clinical trials that are published in reputable peer-reviewed science journals CANNOT be used as references to support a health statement. What is required for health statement citations are that they be reviews, systematic reviews or meta-analyses, written by people who do not have a conflict of interest with the topic. David notMD (talk) 16:44, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Celliant deletion closure

Hello Borristhedog, you mentioned me in the message that you left on Spartaz's talk page. If you want to "..open discussion with an admin to discuss the science of infrared.." that isn't going to happen. If you want Celliant on Wikipedia you need to provide reliable, independent sources that support your product's claims. When I looked at the article I found an 18-year old technology review and an apparel company that no longer mentioned that it had ever used your company's product. In general, if one is having trouble finding reliable published sources that support the claims in the article then the subject probably does not meet WP:GNG or WP:SIGCOV. Second, you've told us that you have WP:COI which means that your are primarily here to promote your product rather than to build an encyclopedia. And finally your replies to those voting to delete - and following the AfD closing administrator - is WP:BLUDGEON. It's not going to get you a sympathetic ear. As others on this page mentioned you need to work on identifying reliable sources. Without those any attempt to resurrect the article will only get it a WP:G4. Blue Riband► 05:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

• Hello Blue Riband. Thank you for your reply. The article you reviewed was the one that is inaccurate and incomplete and the one that we were trying to update and replace. Did you review the updated draft that had the reliable sources? You say a conversation about the science of IR isn't going to happen? I don't understand that. There is no Wiki entry for this topic and yet there is meta data on the value and benefits of IR on humans and animals. How does one create a discussion on new topics to be considered for Wiki? I further don't understand your comment about replying to those that have voted to delete and following the AFD "won't get a sympathetic ear" as the guideline for articles nominated for deletion specifically says to reply to each point. So I understood I was following Wiki protocol. The others on the page were all reviewing the old article. At this point how do I submit an updated article for review? Any further information would be appreciated. Borristhedog (talk) 18:18, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I think you have a misunderstanding of how Wikipedia works. You seem to be searching for an administrator who will listen to your product claims and finally say, "Yes! Now I get it! I'll retreive your article so others can benefit from this advancement!" That's not going to happen as articles are kept or deleted based on editorial consensus and not administrative fiat.
This is not a place to discuss the science of IR or anything else. It's the obligation of the person creating the article to provide the credible scientific evidence for its claims and why their subject meets WP:GNG. If you want to re-create the article it should be done through WP:AfC. Also review the suggestions given on this page regarding what sources are needed to substantiate health claims. You need to pay particular attention to WP:SIGCOV for the business aspects and WP:MEDRS for the health claims. Blue Riband► 20:00, 8 March 2021 (UTC)