User talk:Blofeld of SPECTRE/ArchiveApril2007

Welsh Films

Hi, yes this is Helen the director (from Cardiff). That's great that you're compiling Welsh films. My other films 'Winner Takes All' and A Day Out are also Welsh films that could be put into this category. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Helengracedirector (talk • contribs) 8 April, 2007.

Casino Royale

I don't think that information was worth much. What happened to my request of information from the two DVD documentaries for me to help write a comprehensive article? Alientraveller 16:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm just following the guideline Wikipedia: Avoid trivia sections in articles. I'm very sure it won't take any time at all, I write DVD featurette lists all the time. Even if the article is GA, it can benefit from a more comprehensive production section. I'm not intentionally picking on you or anything. Alientraveller 16:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm getting it changed. Don't worry, I'm just slow. Let me take my time to respond to the featurette list. Alientraveller 16:22, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Erik and I discussed this awhile back when we were trying to fix the Spider-Man (film) page (which we still haven't finished), that the "plot" is not the most important thing in an article. Plots are nothing more than context for the rest of the article. We felt that the page should be layed in in accordance to when things happen, this way you don't jump around from date to date. Production is the first thing, and in there you would cast before you filmed (well, the majority of characters are cast), and then you'd film, and then you'd do special effects (if needed) and music and all that other post production work. Then you'd have the film (i.e. plot section), and then you'd have reception stuff. Later the DVD's are released, along with other post release merchandise.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 12:25, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I haven't had a chance to read it yet, I just walked into work. I'll read it in a bit and let you know. My concern right now is the image that is pushing the "special effects" header over. I think it needs to be moved up. I'm going to see if I can fiddle with that real quick before I have to do some real work.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 12:38, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that the information at the bottom of the "cast" section should really be in the "casting" subsection. Even the cameo stuff, because that's really related to casting, and less about the film itself. It probably needs to be written in a way that reflects "casting" instead of "cameos".  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 13:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't like the idea of an awards table. Personally, I think the current paragraph is fine. Alientraveller 13:25, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Becareful with that, because FAC reviewers will hit hard on awards that are rather minor, something that is so obscure that no one knows about it. Also, tables get hit hard. As long as we can keep a good prose to go with it, I think the table will be alright.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 13:27, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

We can see how it looks and decide what is best afterward.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 13:32, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

The only thing I think will draw debate will be the placement of "Awards" as its own section, as that generally accompanies "Reception".  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 13:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

It's much better to source to the actual award websites.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me)

I'm not sure what to add. General reception of the soundtrack, or something. We need to be careful about size, because the article is becoming increasingly long.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 14:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Go for it. I have a lot of work to do, and as for Wikipedia, I'm currently in an AfD battle over List of deaths in the Friday the 13th series, and trying to improve all dozen of those film articles: here's my first start. So I'm not going to be too much help with Royale right now, other than quick suggestions. But I'd work on it, and then "be bold". If people like it, awesome; if they don't, you'll know. If you are going to rework the plot, try not to expand it too much since we already are at 58kb in size.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 14:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

It's working very well. I just don't like the Awards list. Alientraveller 15:24, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

You need to go back and remove any peacock words, as I saw some like "desperately". Other than that it's good.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 15:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Weren't about that, it was a redundancy in the infobox. Alientraveller 21:08, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Sound good. The writing information would probably be best in the lead paragraph for the production section. There won't be enough to support its own subsection, so its best left there.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 13:13, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

If you are working in one section, try and do preview so you can limit the number of your edits. makes it easier to follow, and allows other editors to edit while you are doing your thing (reduces "edit conflicts").  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 13:16, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I removed the second "keen" you used because you used "keen" in the sentence before it. It reminded me of Linda Van Der Klok and her "totally"s. If it was further down that page it wouldn't have been an issue, but it was so close I just changed it to keep the sentence wording fresh.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 13:21, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Uttara (film)

Hmmm...I'm afraid, that fact is not that much interesting enough to be featured as a Did you know. Lot of people receive lot of awards in lot of Film festivals. Don't they? :) But, I still believe this article has the potential for the DYK. Can you please add the reference for the statement:

The film due to its homoerotic undetones was shown at a number of gay and lesbian film festivals and opened the Pusan Film Festival.

- KNM ^Talk 17:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: DYK FILM

Looks alright to me, assuming those references in the footnotes apply to the sections preceding them. You should proposed it at T:TDYK, I especially like the fact about the strategy of shooting at dawn and dusk.--Carabinieri 18:55, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Spanish list

Take it easy there. I've been working the last hour in formatting (off-line) up to including 1980s and the other editor re-edited some, so I have to add now his new edits. If you like do the 1990s, but until there I have it all ready in a minute. Hoverfish Talk 15:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I am doing the list of Finnish films, checking categories and all. Please, delete the content of the forgotten mainspace articles: List of Finnish films: A, List of Finnish films: B, List of Finnish films: C, List of Finnish films: D so they can be speedy deleted. Their content has already been copied in the lists of films without articles. Hoverfish Talk 19:55, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

March WP:FILMS Newsletter

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Eduardo Paolo Gomez

I've just put a speedy tag on this article you started in mid-2006 after failing to see any independent Google sources or anything much at Worldcat[1]. --VSerrata 14:21, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

French films

Hi, I am basicly going through the Internet Movie Database at the moment and adding films where they are needed with additional info from other movie sites. Once I have added the pages (or reformatted them in accordance with the manual of style) I am updating various film lists including those by country. I'm happy to help out with re-editing film lists where needed though. --Amxitsa 15:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Country film lists

Hi,

I don't understand what your intention is with the lists. Do you want to add all films produced in a country? Or 1-3 films per year? / Fred-Chess 17:37, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Bor da, Sir Blofeild.

I'm sorry I've tarried awhile on the East German thing. As you might see from my contribs page I've got alot of projects I'm working on, and wasn't expecting a "request". I've added some of the earliest DDR movies, technically the Soviet occupation, and will expand on the 1960s momentarily. How about I take over DDR and you do BRD up to unification? I take the east side and you take the west side, as we say down here in Texas.--Dudeman5685 22:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Casino Royale

So far, you have not provided any tangible rationales for any of the photos you have added. Photos are meant to aid the article. Not to make it look pretty. Every photo in the article needs to contribute in some way (and not simply because "it shows what we're talking about"). The photos in the synopsis section provide the reader with the so-called "look" of the film. The photo in the cast section provides the reader with a photo of the cast who's identity they will most likely be curious about. And the poster in the infobox provides an example of the marketing campaign, specifically the poster(s) campaign (which is important to every film). Your photo of Eva Green accepting her award does not add anything to the article. It is not an example of anything. The Filmaker 04:15, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• I understand that your edits are in good faith, you haven't done anything so far that does constitute as bad faith. Damaging is a rather harsh word for it, but it is damaging to the article in that it is redundant with the poster in the infobox. You yourself said that "this like the main poster is part of the campaign for the dvd promotion". Exactly, they are both examples of the marketing campaign for the film. Again, you, so far, have not provided a suitable rationale as to how the image actually contributes to the article other than the above statement and that the "DVD release is very important an an image showing it is not a problem and helps the article." How does it help the article? The Filmaker 14:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Both of the images establish the "look" of the film. The gun barrel image to a lesser degree. However, the gun barrel is significant as it not only is a long standing tradition within the Bond series, but features the new James Bond for the film. On top of that, the gun barrel sequence itself has been significantly altered in this film. Hence the image. The Filmaker 14:51, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
    • I don't feel that either of us are being unfriendly to each other. The only time I become hostile towards anyone is when they are hostile towards me (or they are extremely annoying. ;)
    • The reader will not receive this "air of mystery" you're talking about from a simple photo of Mr. White. If you check the history, I did say that Mr. White was important, however has such a small role in the overall picture that his brief mention within the article does not warrant an image. I understand that he will probably become more important in the grand scheme of things, however as of right now he is somewhat insignificant in comparison to the rest of the article. What is keeping it from becoming FA? Well, at this point. Not much. Right now, I would convert the Awards section to prose as it will not go over well with the voters during the FAC, and get a peer review. I'll need to look it over some more before I can say more. ;) The Filmaker 01:45, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
• I removed Salmon and Bean: restore it if you can cite it. Alientraveller 16:34, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
  • • • First, let me say that all of your suggestions that you left on my talk page are excellent. I have no doubt that this article will soon be an FA. However, I simply cannot in good faith let you keep the DVD image without a good rationale. I'm sorry, and I completely understand why you want to keep it. You like it. However WP:ILIKEIT does not apply here. Like I said, the article is completely excellently but I cannot let this slip by with good thoughts. The Filmaker 03:29, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
        • I wouldn't say I have a distaste for images. Although, that page you provided for the article that you helped get up to FA status did (I feel) have too many images. But that's beside the point. If you added an image in the bottom half of the article, I would not have a problem with it provided that you had a suitable rationale as to why it should be there. The Filmaker 14:09, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
• I'm 5'10". Thanks for that, Lurch. :( ;) The Filmaker 20:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
  • I'm kidding. ;) I believe 5'10" is slightly above average here in the US too. But anyway, I completely support your article now. Good luck, I'll probably pop in to help where I can. :) The Filmaker 20:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Casino Royale, ratings

Hey Mr. World Dominator, I trust you are well: Well I got my dick stepped on when I added the ratings on the film as you suggested. I hate going into new places (as I've been going these last two weeks) and I'm not surpriced this happened. I ask why does the template exist? I do not think film ratings are a trival matter (as a metter of fact, I can delete half the info on the article with such logic). But if you've read the messages on my TALK page I have enough problems with the most simple matters, "a reference tag" no less. To be honest I'm gettimng sick and tired of all the complete bull shit and may be leaving Wiki soon. My best to you world dominator, I think how you handle stuff on Wiki is a model for many... Luigibob 12:04, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, buddy. You're words are always comforting. But there're not abogados. The only legit so-called abogados are the ones who have a bone to pick with images. The folk we are talking about are wiki bullies, who think they know it all. A good example is that "What wiki is not" tag that was placed after my edit re ratings on Casino Royale. What I'll do is go back and continue editing the Argentine bios, some more Argentine films (not many more post 1990), and the rest of the films om my User list.

I know you'll never give me hell because I cited IMDb as a reference within an article. I mean who does that? One in a thousand, and someone who is loking for a meaningless argument. I mean a souce is a souce and let it go. If a fight is needed at every turn I don't belong.

My best, did you see that most of the Mar De Plate and Bueno Aires film Festivals Wiki sites (where they mention Argentina all have an article. YES! That was one of my goals the last couple of weeks, before I got started on a few American films). Luigibob 12:35, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I forgot to tell you what I was up to. I was editing all (at this point half, left) of the films mentioned in the documentary Visions of Light. As I may have mentioned I worked on the Sony Lot (old MGM studios) in the early 1990s. There was a big screening and the directors came to the lot. I go a chance to meet many of the crew att the party later. If one is a student of films the doc is a must see. Best Luigibob 13:02, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

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Re. heavy-handed editing of Tibetan articles

Dear Ernst: Thank you for your note about your entries on Tibet and their heavy editing by "Tibetologist". I, too, have had the same difficulty and have found some of his edits and comments very abrupt and off-putting. I believe that if (s)he has differences with someone (s)he should contact and discuss them with the author first before making heavy-handed edits.

On the other hand, (s)he does seem to be sincerely trying to make articles on Tibetan subjects as factual as possible and his or her criticisms have helped me, I believe, improve some of the things I was working on. See, for example, the article on Songtsän Gampo and the notes on the Discussion page, and compare the present page with earlier versions. I think it is now much improved and more factual (though it still needs more work) - and that was largely in response to criticisms by "Tibetologist". However, I must say that, while I applaud his or her attempt to make everything "factual" - I don't agree with all of their criticisms or interpretations of the historical situation, and I do find the manner in which they are made often overly, and unnecessarily, abrasive.

My suggestion to you would be to just restore what you have written and ask "Tibetologist" (and every one else) for their suggestions on how they can be improved (not just wiped). Don't be too discouraged - please keep up your good work, and do not hesitate to write to me again if you think I can be of any help. If you wish, you can email me at: wynhill@bigpond.com

Sincerely, John Hill 00:25, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Sincerely, John Hill 00:25, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Your Manner of Editing Casino Royale

I've noticed that when editing Casino Royale you make many small edits. This is listed as one of the symptoms of editcountitis and should be avoided. Instead of many successive edits, please try to use preview and combine your changes into a few large edits. For example, I practically rewrote the article on GoldenEye with only about 19 edits in total. I could have used fewer, but it was over a several day period. So, please consider not saving so often as it makes reviewing individual edits much harder and should be avoided per the above linked article. Thanks. ColdFusion650 17:35, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Ouch!

I just visited the Argentine lists and wondered what was going on with all the blue links. So I started clicking on them and I was redirected to the very page I was already. I hope this is not going to expand. Also the redirect pages have been... categorized!!! I am of the opinion that all these misleading redirects should be emptied, the links turned to nornal text. Hoverfish Talk 19:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I didn't quite understand what you expected the redirects to do, but so long as this is somehow corrected it doesn't matter what I understand or not. Otherwise good going. I did a lot to the Greek list. Few blue links and only a couple of reds. You see, knowing a bit about some names of top actors and top directors, helps to scan the imdb filmographies and find the most representative of their films. Otherwise it's all Greek to most users. Have a good April Fool's day! Hoverfish Talk 19:53, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

argentina- spain

There are more Spanish fims than Argentinan. Many of Argentina are coproduction with Spain. In the Spain's list of films, I only have pute the most important films. If you put all, it will be full of B movies, Z movies, crap movies, horrible movies from the 60's and 70's and 80's ...

I've not seen the Canadian list.

I've started to improve the ITALIAN list. Is going anyone to edit that page as the Spain's list was edited ??? I mean, nicer, with actors, genre and importance. Rohmerin 21:58, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Lhasa

Sorry, I have not been very active recently, and also didnt notice your message because it wasnt at the bottom. I looked for it when it said ihad new messags. I was not in Lhasa any time before the late 20th century, whcih is exactly why I want documentary evidence of it. Do you know of any pre 17th century primary sources for the history of Lhasa, it is not my area, but I do not. It is mentioned in one of the Old Tibetan Inscriptions, I think maybe the sino-Tibetan Inscription of 812 but I am not sure. No real information is given there though, just that the place is there. Tibetologist 10:58, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Casino Royale FAC

Hi. Thanks for letting me know. I'll leave my comments when I have time to give it a thorough read.

I read the comment above about editcountitis/previewing edits. While it is neater in terms of edit history to make a few large edits rather than many small edits, don't worry about it too much. IMHO the important thing is the improvements made to an article, and if you find you can work better making more small edits, so be it. Mark83 11:57, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Related to the point above, you contacted me about Casino Royale at FAC. I'll take a look, certainly, but is there any particular reason you contacted me? J Milburn 12:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Aha! That makes sense. Ok, sure thing, I'll have a good read through. J Milburn 12:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi James, I read your message. I'm a little busy with work in WP:SY and other stuff. I'll try to give the article an in-depth read and review before supporting or opposing. I can't promise I will, so my apologies in advance if I don't vote. :-) Regards, Anas ^talk? 13:24, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I know we need to mention it, I remember reading it myself, but we cannot use the site itself. It's the same reason behind not being able to use petitiononline.com as a way to verify controversy over a subject. We need to find critics or mainstream news organizations that mention the controversy, and mention the website that was started.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 20:20, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

It's all about citing a reliable sources that mentions the boycott. People boycott for stupid reasons all the time. I know people that boycotted the Superman film because Bryan Singer was making it. The reason behind finding mainstream news organizations to cite is because it says "hey, CBS is mentioning this controversy, so it's obviously a big thing to someone".  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 20:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't accussing you of anything. *thumbs up*  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 12:22, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I saw. I've left comments on both the article talk page and on the FAC page (different comments, so they aren't redundant). I have to go to school so I won't really be on here till after 6:30 pm (my time); so that's like 10 hours from now.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 12:31, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Ernst, he's the director of the FAC. He has the right to restart the candacy, which he did because he couldn't understand most of it to either pass or fail it (which he is the only one that will pass or fail the FAC when the time comes).  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 11:05, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I understand your position, but reverting him isn't going to win any favors with him. He can simply let it sit there for another 20 days without so much as a care, plus he's an admin so he has the power to block (though I don't think he'd abuse it for that purpose). Also, a lot of major revisions have happened to the article (which violates the "stable" part of the FAC). Which means that what someone voted for previously may not be the same article later.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 11:11, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Also, he kept the previous FAC available for quick glance at the top of the new one. You can always place another alert on the talk page stating that the FAC was restarted by the director.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 11:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

They are still there. They are only there for him, because he's the only one that can pass or fail FACs. All he has to do is click the link to the old FAC that he created on the page and he can see all the old votes. It doesn't help us personally, other than by clogging the page. Trust, the only thing the restart did was bring in more people that saw it on the FAC page.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 11:20, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Italian

Guay =Cool. I'll work on the new formated page when it'll be finished. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rohmerin (talk • contribs) 13:46, 2 April 2007 (UTC).

OT: Ah, hi Ernst. Well, things are going as usual, on Wikipedia editing just like normal, sometimes creating, sometimes expanding or fixing, and in the real life with the difference in the number of tests, as we have many tests around April 15th. Oh, and if you would like to know, I have passed my First Certificate in English test with grade B, and as such I am quite happy about it.

Happy Easter! MarkBA ^t/c/@ 21:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

OT: What road project do you mean? Maybe I know about it, but can't remember right now. Anyway, as I said, the FCE is history, now I am trying to get the Certificate in Advanced English, hmm, hmm, well, I see that I will barely pass C when I will continue like this. Yeah, and to the Wikipedia, I am slowly nearing 3000th edit (2982nd as I'm writing this message). MarkBA ^t/c/@ 21:33, 2 April 2007 (UTC) (edit conflict)

OT: Oh I remember, yeah, still thinking to them, but improving those Slovak articles keeps me out of these. Yeah, and some Serbian deleted my 3 road articles in Serbia, arguing that they do not officially exist, well, never mind, life goes on without them. At least I did some in Czechia, and still planning in Austria but keeping postponing it..., but nuff chatting as we have almost midnight... MarkBA ^t/c/@ 21:47, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Select Casino_Royale From Movie_Titles;

I think the article looks pretty good. You got my vote.

(However, imo, it is kind-of on the long-side though. The plot is good and explanatory, but a lot of the other stuff seems to be a bit hefty for anyone to read it all.) JimmmyThePiep 21:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

On closer look, the article is only about 2/3rds of the page, and 1/3rd is just references! (Whoosh; maybe a seperate page just for references?) .. Anyway, it's good and has lots of data. Google usually hits Wikipedia first, so anyone will find a good source of Casino Royale first.

(If I do seem Wiki-cranky, I'm sorry. My second article I've created is being deleted and I can't seem to convince the deletionists that it's relevant.) JimmmyThePiep 21:40, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Conforming lists

Hi, I went through the headers of the German periods and made fixes so they all follow the same logic and order. I also created different list-nav-templates for the German Empire and East Germany, so the flags display right. I'm not so sure if I want to do the 3rd Reich with the swastica thingamading, but it may have to be done to keep things historically correct (or was the normal German flag also an official alternative in those times?). I also started adding to all the lists' leads "a list of the most notable films of...". I think this will help both contributors with their work and the lists from facing criticism as being open to just about anything. I hope you agree. Hoverfish Talk 08:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Also the German period of 1945-1949 had a flag and history of its own. Maybe we should add this on the note. See Allied Occupation Zones in Germany (I guess you know it though). Hoverfish Talk 08:42, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Look, I am not connecting "notable" with just awarded and the such. It is clear that "notable" is any film that has been screened and for which there cab be acceptable references. That's per general policy definition. On the other hand Wikipedia:Notability (films) wasn't handled correctly and it has been rejected again as guidelines. So the only thing that remains, is our best judgement plus a general agreement/understanding of what we are compiling. It is a blessing if we get editors relevant with a country's (or is it "-ie's"?) cinema and they take initiative in compiling to the best of their knowledge. The reason I raised the issue and made some proposals is to gather opinions (both pro and con) and we already have a start. Please note the remark that not every film a famous actor has played is necessarily worth a listing. You and I know too little about, say, Bulgarian cinema to decide this, so we are bound to either go by sheer guessing or to include just about anything that seems to connect to some important name. I wrote "most notable films" just to give an idea of our aim. Surely this is no precise definition and it's up to interpretation, which is quite OK, so long as the compiling user has some idea of the cinema in question. I went through the Greek lot via the IMDb link. Some fampous comedians I know have done a handful of relly good films and then, just for survival, they have done a lot of crappy stuff, and that's something some admit by themselves. I would be happy to have someone more seriously into Greek cinema check the list and comment on overs and unders. I have someone in mind and will ask him if he's got some time to spare for this. Once a basic compilation is done, then we can check what is added by others and argue about some entries on the basis of the quality of the existing list. Aussipete is starting to feel this by some recent entries, which by the way are not somehow related to Aboriginal films and are very hard to reference and see how important they are. It's not easy, but I think we'll get excellent lists after all. Hoverfish Talk 11:12, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, about WP Indian Cinema, I would let it up to them, really. Bollwood production is totally out of my field and as for putting order in there is not even imaginable. So I'll do what of the rest I feel I have some vague idea about and if it serves as an example, so much the better for the series. Hoverfish Talk 12:50, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

It's all there, just hidden. Hoverfish Talk 15:00, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't think your problem is to persuade me on the matter of inclusion. I think we have to find an answer to this question asked in WPFilms a few days ago: What's the criterion as to when these lists are considered too big to actually remain lists? Because if we keep it unanswered, and the lists keep growing as users keep adding what they like, there will follow more serious questions about them. Since we both put so much work into them, it would be good to clear out what these lists are meant to include. We can't say "Z films, unimportant shorts and independent productions shouldn't be included", as this doesn't say much. I agree that not only awarded films should be included, but we have to somehow define acceptably where the limit is. What makes a good list "with future" is a clear limiting factor. Limits are not bad, they keep things in shape. Hoverfish Talk 21:25, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

On the issue of the Argentine list being put in pages of decades, I think it will help things become manageable, as it does in the Aussie lists, inspite of some lengthy pages. As for the rest, some comments you read from me (when they are not just humorous) are meant to balance some comments I read from you. Where balance is needed is in the way the lists are compiled, as this will encourage or discourage further compiling (in quality and quantity). Although no one has the intention of creating restrictive guidelines, I would like to remind you that most of the compiling editors are going easy on inclusion. Otto has said: "Sir Blofeld" told me once I should add "as much as possible" (that was probably not serious, I'm not sure). This is how you also tend to advice Rhomerin and this is why I also add my comments near yours. As long as I feel a tendency to push for length, you will find comments to keep entries more selective. It is merely to keep a balance. Now about the new color you gave to the general lists by country template... gosh! Why not the standard light blue it was before? Hoverfish Talk 07:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

List of James Bond henchmen in Casino Royale

I only deleted the pictures of Dryden and Kratt, (someone else deleted carlos and obbano), the reason i deleted these was because they clearly didn't represent the characters they portrayed. SpecialWindler 21:10, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Francisco Álvarez undeletion

I reversed the out-of-process speedy of Francisco Álvarez material contributed mostly by you, which can't give you back the effort you lost in reconstructing -- but it may be worth something that we are no longer misrepresenting when you came up with what you wrote. See User talk:BigHaz#Deletion process if you're interested. Feel free to ask me for redress if content you're interested in gets del'd just bcz someone puts crap on top of it.
--Jerzy•t 06:06, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Guido Gryseels

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US definition of Cinema

I think I just hit on a hard spot. Take a look at what my friend Cott12, who has studied cinema in the US, has to say about the way the term is used over there User talk:Cott12#Moving cinematic genre. Hoverfish Talk 21:57, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

What are you doing with the Canadian list navigation? Hoverfish Talk 13:43, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

And I guess you are planning to change all the other navigations as well? Hoverfish Talk 13:49, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Deleting lists

Instead of deleting the lists of Australian films, I am redirecting them to the page they were merged to. This is our standard way of cleaning up merges - and it has the added benefit that no administrator intervention is needed. (ESkog)^(Talk) 14:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

We had been talking with Pete to integrate them as 2000-2003 and 2004-Upcoming. But tthe way you did it leaves more place for future entries. The problem with 2007: The films that have already been released should be in 2007 and then we should have a table "Upcoming", tagged with the future template. That's the last thing we had been discussing about them, before I jumped into formatting. Hoverfish Talk 15:03, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Re:List of Argentine films

Yes, I saw you were merging the years into decades. The resulting articles are kinda long, but it makes things a bit more clearer in the end.

A few small comments:

1. column title Notability might be better as Comments or Additional information.
2. There are a lot of [[]] signs in empty cells
3. Be careful that film names actually point to the film and not to another thing (Such as the 2006 film Epoxy (film) currently linked to Epoxy

I have to tell you that your enterprise is really enormous, and that you are doing a great job. Good luck, --Mariano(t/c) 17:58, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, that's why I was hiding empty cells the other day. The main namespace should look clean at every step, not like "under construction", unless you have the tag on top. Yes, I spent several hours today trying to make the globe picture display something as a globe at 16px. Well, I can't get it there. I've tried contrasts, colors, just about everything I know. So if you forget about it, we can apply the same style as per cinema navigation. And its presence will be by far more respectable. Another very serious thing: During the AfD of the US template, we have said we'll pull it out of American film articles and reserve it for important general articles. However you keep putting in films. Don't you understand what will follow? Hoverfish Talk 18:46, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

It is in 62 American film articles however. I am receiving emails with complains about it, I guess because I took the time to protect it from deletion. Hoverfish Talk 20:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC) And my words are "you keep putting it in film articles", not "in hundreds of film articles". You keep doing this with what I say, you know. Hoverfish Talk 20:26, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I haven't heard anything about actors (yet), so I won't interfere there, but if it's all right with you I will first write some noinclude text about not using it in films (at the template page) and then I will give an ok to the complaining parties for its removal from films. Hoverfish Talk 20:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I formatted the navigation of the lists as per cinema. If you like it keep it, if not, revert it. Hoverfish Talk 08:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I am experimenting further for a better size of the film-country images. Please, let me know what you think: User:Hoverfish/Sandbox Hoverfish Talk 15:56, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

No, we can't change the width of the header stripe, as it goes by CSS styles set for all wikipedias. I went a long way to find this out. Yes, we'll have to resolve the Asian problem for all these countries, but we'll stumble on the huge one: USSR! We have it in Europe, although it's in Asia. It will get slippery along the way. Hoverfish Talk 17:17, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

WP Tibet

Further to your welcome, I have tried to get involved. I just wonder though if you could help me with this user - User:Xiaoliang1? Some of his/her edits to the Tibet page have been reverted. And the other day I asked a question about their edits on the Tibet talk page. Xiaoliang1 responded to my comments. And I then replied back. However, he/she then firstly removed part of his comment which I replied to, and then simply deleted the entire comment completely, making it look like my reply was to nothing. I have though reverted the edits so that the comment is back where it should be.

I hope this makes sense, but if you go through the history of the Tibet talk page it will become clearer. I have no problem with someone wanting to present the Chinese Government view on Tibet as long as it is done in the correct way, and even though some of Xiaoliang1s edits do not appear to be at all NPOV. However, simply deleting comments in a Talk page, I thought was not only frowned upon, but also not allowed on wikipedia, especially when it is in the midst of a debate? It is (purely in my opinion of course) a form of censorship. So, is there a message that can be place on Xiaoliang1s user page about removing content? Thank you. Tangerines 21:23, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I was a little unsure as to how to approach this, but the fact that there are two pages one about historical Tibet and one about the TAR does help clarify it somewhat. I did find it rather disconcerting that the user simply deleted his/her comments on the Talk:Tibet page rather than replying. Especially as I have seen other users warned for doing so on other Talk pages.Tangerines 21:50, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I am just going through my Watchlist and noticed quite a few edits from Xiaoliang1!!! I don't suppose he/she will be very happy, but I intend going through his/her edits with the proverbial fine toothcomb. I noticed this though - "(changed according to NPOV)", hmmmm, sorry xiaoliang1 but any edits from that user I would not trust to be from a NPOV!!! Should be a fun day! ♦ BFC ♦·Talk 15:08, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

No worries, I shall be careful. My views on Tibet are very similar to yours, and based upon meeting numerous Tibetans (monks, nuns, and laypeople). However, I also believe that wikipedia should be neutral and just present facts and both points of view without bias. Something xiaoliang doesn't seem able to grasp. ♦ BFC ♦·Talk 15:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

This user - User:66.38.139.80 has added some stuff (that has been removed) which seems way too familiar with xiaoliang1, just wondering if they are not one and the same person? ♦ BFC ♦·Talk 21:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Just had a brief glance over this page - History of Tibet and much of it reads like an advert for the PRC, is in parts out of sequence and in numerous parts very poorly written. Would it be worth bringing it ip on the WP Tibet page? ♦ BFC ♦·Talk 21:35, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

signature

Just wondering how you get colour in a signature? I've had a play around with mine, (well I stole it from yours!) just to see how it looks, but can't figure out how you got the dark blue and green? I wanted to make mine orange/tangerine, and I was hoping you might be able to explain how it is done? Thanks!!! --Tangerines' ♦ The Seasiders ♦ 03:17, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

hmm, I think I have got it! Would this be right? - ♦ BFC ♦·Talk 03:35, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for your response and help. ♦ BFC ♦·Talk 15:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Sir Blofeld sounds like a solecism. Surely it should be Sir Ernst? - Kittybrewster (talk) 16:53, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Baoruco

Talk:Baoruco Mountain Range Tobias Conradi (Talk) 15:55, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Next stage

Well then that's no next stage, that's the stage we're already into. You are most welcome to do some too. Today I did Nigeria and S.Africa and I see formatting code even with my eyes closed. Hoverfish Talk 19:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

List of Korean language films

Hi, the list contains films made in a unified Korea, but also films made in current North Korea and South Korea, so just moving it isn't a good idea. Furthermore, moving an article via cut-and-pasting its contents is never a good idea. Use the move button for uncontroversial moves in the future.

Also, if you're going to add a huge table into the article space, please take the effort to finish it first, preferably in userspace. Otherwise it just creates a mess. Thanks. - Bobet 22:52, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I understand you're trying to complete the lists, but please do them one at a time, instead of starting all of them at once and finishing them later. Otherwise the lists will just be a mess in the meantime. Thanks. - Bobet 22:56, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, it's not a huge issue, it's just that Korean-language films is a more descriptive term of the current contents of the list, since that term would encompass all of the films, while Korean films could be confusing. Consistent naming of the articles for different regions is a good goal, but in this case, listing it at requested moves would probably be preferable. And it's always preferable to a cut-and-paste move.

(and about the Cinmea of Korea article, it has redirects from both 'Cinema of South Korea' and 'Cinema of North Korea', and naming it Cinema of Korean language would just be awkward) - Bobet 23:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Ya, you're probably right about it, and I did think of splitting them in the past, but at that point the article was pretty short and would've just resulted in 3 stubs instead of one average-sized article. If you'd want to split the articles or start a discussion on the talk page, great. - Bobet 23:17, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

In the article in question, the split actually looks pretty easy, since it's already divided chronologically. Everything from Cinema_of_Korea#Golden_Age_.281955-1973.29 onward (except the refs and links) could be split easily, with the current section of North Korean cinema put into its own article and the rest to Cinema of South Korea. - Bobet 23:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

The current article would probably be better served by having the {{main}} template and short summaries of the South and North Korean sections. And I have to go offline now, sorry. Maybe continuing this at the talk page of the article would be better. - Bobet 23:29, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

No, I don't mind (creating the lists of films by country). - Bobet 20:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

List of Malayalam films from xxxx to xxxx

Hi, I saw you added the speedy deletion tag on many of those articles. I removed the speedy tag. First, it's not a valid speedy deletion criteria. See WP:CFD. But also, did you used the information in those articles to create the new articles? If so, the articles need to be kept (redirect works) for GFDL reasons. It also should be mentioned (usually in the edit summary) that the info came from those articles. Garion96 (talk) 00:47, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Will you please stop taking everything so personal. Like "some editors think I am stupid enough not to have moved the page please delete it". But back to the point. All those pages have a history so they were obviously not moved by using the move button. Did you copied & pasted the content? If so, the original articles need to be kept. Redirect is of course good enough. Garion96 (talk) 13:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I only encountered you twice, so always from me is not that true. :) I reverted the speedy tags since otherwise they would perhaps speedy be deleted by another admin not knowing the whole story. I never blankly revert other edits which are not that in a rush. I am glad the other template issue is solved btw. I do like that template, just not in all those specific actor and film articles. The articles were it now is in seems good. Garion96 (talk) 14:14, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Garion96 (talk) 14:32, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Burkina Faso

I started the List of Burkinabe films. I don't know if we have any templates and navigation for it. Hoverfish Talk 08:37, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Merging proposal for national cinema WikiProjects

Hi, I've brought up a WP merging proposal which involves the national cinema projects, and I'd like for you to look it over. Please let me know what you think! Many thanks, Girolamo Savonarola 10:03, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

national cinema WikiProjects would be a child project of WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers. Also, there already are nation cinema WikiProjects. -- Jreferee 17:14, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject what?

So far, there appear to be four names for the project: (1) WPFilmBiography, (2) WikiProject Film biography, (3) WikiProject Filmmakers, (4) WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers. If WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers is too long, then it should be changed so that only one project name is used - otherwise people will be confused as the project grows. An appropriate name would be "WikiProject Actors and other filmmakers" which would permit use of AAOF as in WP:AAOF or WikiProject AAOF. Just a thought. -- Jreferee 17:14, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

re "the best name would be Film Biography really." Some people have a problem with the word biography and prefer biographical material. As you mentioned eariler, it is good to have "actors" in the project name. I think you should be bold and give a final name. I support any decision that you make. -- 18:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Tibet

I think we should give Xiaoliang a chance. He's a new user, and although he's not neutral, I'm not sure he knows everything about WP:NPOV yet. If we just explain him the basic principles, I think he'll be fine. I've added my name to WP:TIBET. BTW, is there any reason why we have the {{WPChina Navigation}} template right at the top? If we compare the 58 years Tibet has been part of China to the thousands of years it hasn't, I think it makes a difference. Also, Tibetans are of course very different compared to their Han neighbors. That's just my opinion. Ciao. Khoikhoi 05:26, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Just a thank you for adding a category to the new stub I created. I am new at all this and appreciate the help. --Love2bebookish 16:35, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, by protesting in my talk page you won't gain much. I suggest you protest in WP Films and I will second you. Hoverfish Talk 17:07, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Filmbio template

This should really just be a work group in the WPBiography template, since most of the elements are shared. --PhantomS 19:01, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I've added an editprotected request. It should be added in a day or two. --PhantomS 19:36, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I can ask for a field variable, but there is no real reason for the project to differentiate between them that much unless they are becoming their own workgroups. --PhantomS 19:38, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Films

Because I don't see how we can justify, frex, having Canadian comedy television series and Canadian comedy radio shows directly accessible from subcategories of Category:Canadian comedy and humour, while having Canadian comedy films accessible only from a list. They have to be organized in a parallel manner. Bearcat 22:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Welsh films

Thanks! You know, I always have the temptation to add the category "Welsh-language films" to these, just to see if anyone is paying attention! It also reminds me of one of my favourite quotes from Red Dwarf: paraphrased "attempt to contact them in every known language, including Welsh!"

I'm working on a toolbox for regular film project contributers, which is why I'm "getting around" right now! You can check out User:SkierRMH/My Sandbox/Film toolbox to see it - any suggestions on other things that should be on a "watchlist" like this? They'd be appreciated. Thanks. SkierRMH 01:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Is there a stub, sub-stub, or category, that the "cast" would connect to? If not, don't know how it would actually be tracked... If so, it would be a welcome addition.SkierRMH 02:00, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

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My comment was wiped out it seems

I posted [[2]] here. I don't know how it got wiped out... odd. I was actually wondering why you hadn't responded yet.-BillDeanCarter 17:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I think you archived my comment on the 27th or something.-BillDeanCarter 17:16, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Stadium image

Ah, that's interesting. Glad to be of help. 8-)

Just for your information, if you want to be very nitpicky, you might want to keep looking for a older image to use in the The Naked Gun article. That movie was filmed in 1988, whereas the image is from 2003. In between, the stadium had undergone a major renovation. It is technically the same stadium, but the way it looks in the image isn't at all the way it appeared in The Naked Gun. Mwelch 21:49, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm baaack...

Hi there Mr. Blofeld! I will check into the film cats soon. It's good to be back (and nice to be missed). :P Cheers, Her Pegship (tis herself) 02:49, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

some discussion points

Hey, I've just noted some points on WikiProject Films for discussion and thought you're generally a talky person so might like to give me some thoughts personally or on the talk page. Your input would be appreciated :) Peter 11:39, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorel

ok, gracias, for showing me how to do actor pages in a propper way. Next time, I'll be able to follow those steps. I've written an article about Commedia all'italiana but I don't know if it's right or not. Please, if you can, have a look. I go on with the Italian list... Rohmerin 11:43, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I used wikipedia (in English: Italian cinema and Italian, Commedia all'italiana) and my memory for other actors. I have to put more films on that comedy page... but I need time. Rohmerin 11:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Oui, I can read and understand French but, the same with Italian, I can not write it. Ok, I'll have a look tomorrow for that French article, and I'll try to create the Pink neorealism using the Italian , French or whatever.

WPBiography image

A better idea might be to have a simple icon that is identifiable when small. --PhantomS 14:07, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Argentine films

I apologize. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 15:06, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Just cleanup, cleanup and cleanup after broken Canadian category. I still have documentaries but I'll do them tomorrow. Hoverfish Talk 21:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Aasai Vechen

I almost prodded this (I did, but reverted when I saw it was you who created) because I couldn't easily find info on the film from IMDb or elsewhere when trying to add an infobox. Do you have any information about it? gren グレン 06:29, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the barnstar! I wanted to let you know that was very much appreciated. Have a great day and happy editing! Alekjds ^talk 18:08, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Diamond from the Sky

Hi, Great Villain. I made some layout changes here. [3] Cleaned up, created infobox and gallery, fixed links. I think is coolest. See that, I hope you like it! Cheers! Films addicted 19:58, 12 April 2007 (UTC)Films_addicted

Nigerian Movies

Hi, Thanks for your contribution to the Nigerian movies but van you help by writing articles on some the titles you put down or by adding more?? Thanks. Third-Cop

Geography

Hello again! Actually I have been working on Greece-related articles lately, for instance the new infobox for towns. But I try to focus on the Belgian municipality infoboxes now. Have you been working on geography articles recently? Markussep 12:45, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Replied

at my talk page. --kingboyk 14:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Missing actress

Hi Stavros! I just realized there's no entry for Isabel Sarli, wife of Armando Bo, who acted in several of his movies (such as Carne, Fiebre, etc). If you have time, could you create it? imdb link Thanks! --Mariano(t/c) 19:55, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Great! It might seam like she was just a girl that gets nude in those films; an unimportant actress, but she is quite known here in Argentina, probably more than his husband Armabdo Bo. You should add her in the cast of films such as Fiebre and Carne, since she's actually the main actress. Thanks again! --Mariano(t/c) 20:24, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

She was never classified as a porno actress (never done hard core). No category for Miss Argentina (e.i. Miss World Silvana Suárez and Norma Cappagli) --Mariano(t/c) 21:03, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Maltese Falcon

I think the article is in pretty good shape per se, but is probably deficient in several ways for featured status: it doesn't cite enough sources, the synopsis is about twice as long as it probably should be (although I think it's pretty well put together for what it is), there's some stuff that I'm sure *somebody* will cite as original research (although I think it's legitimate and should stay in), and so on. My inclination would be to hold off on looking for FA and continue to work on it sub rosa for a while. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk/cont) 20:18, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

The problem with the synopsis is that the plot is so convoluted that there really is a lot you *have* to mention just to make sense of the story -- in that way it's like "The Big Sleep" -- without reducing it to a mere boring skeleton. Unfortunately, with "The Godfather" I could argue that the plot was complex *and* that the movie was 3 hours long, so a longer synopsis was justified, but with "The Maltese Falcon", a standard-length film, half that argument is not available -- so I keep going through it trying to pare away whatever seems non-essential and still have something that represents the film well. It'll come, I think, but it's going to take time, and is probably better *not* done under the pressure of an FA evaluation. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk/cont) 20:30, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Bond Question

I have a question; it's one part personal interest, one part Wikipedia.

On one Bond villain page, it mentions the fact that James Bond has exercized his license to kill on only four women, because it's very unchivalrous. I've been watching Bond movies in no particular order all week (tallied at 14 right now), and the only one I've noticed is when Bond shoots Elektra King in "The World is not Enough".

Any idea whom the other three are?

(In my mind, Xenia Onatopp was killed as a result of Bond's shooting down a helicoptor, but I wouldn't think that she is one of the four.) (I'm not sure, but I don't think Rosa Cleb was kilt by Bond either.) JimmmyThePiep 20:54, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah; I haven't gotten to "Never Say Never Again" or "The Spy Who Loved Me".. I'm so close to getting "Thunderball" downloaded so I'll be watching that in a few hours. (I do have Mr. Bungle singing 'Thunderball' though.) But yeah, Halle stabbed Miranda through the heart while Bond was fighting the Korean-turned-German fellow.

I was thinking maybe the reference was talking about girls Bond accidentally got killed too; like the wife in "Tomorrow Never Dies", agent 11 in "You Only Live Twice", or even the golden girl in "Goldfinger".

Thanx! JimmmyThePiep 16:50, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

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List of Lithuanian films

Hello. You recently removed an unreferenced tag I placed on List of Lithuanian films and put "source is mentioned" as an edit summary. I believe this was unnecessary, because, according to WP:CITE, the article does not properly cite its sources. Please do not remove tags unless you have fixed the problem. Yours truly, Boricuaeddie 01:21, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

New actors template

Hey. I'm not sure what this means: Please listen to me on this. Sure, If I start any new actor articles I'll use the template, why not. I've not done that in a while. I'm taking a lower profile these days. Mostly working with films in the USA that I've worked on and trying to build them up to Start, plus level, mybe B, as I am known to do. Best-- Luigibob 06:40, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Sudan

Hello. I think there are here several users interested in Sudan-related topics. Try to write to the WikiProject itself. - Darwinek 08:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Italian 1st class directors

I think that Luchino Visconti and Michelangelo Antonioni deserve the same treat as Federico Fellini and others. I mean, on the Fellini,'s , Bertolucci, De Sica's wiki pages, there're, in the bottom of their pages, a summary table with all his films. I don't know how to do it. I tried to put more Visconti's on its list inside but they're not there. I mean, The Damned (film) and Vaghe stelle dell'Orsa I edited its category but nothing happened. ¿? Rohmerin 12:08, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

yes. I want to add a table with their filmographies. But I don't know how to do it. I guess it's yet too much complicate for me. Rohmerin 12:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

please, help me with Conversation piece (film) I don't know why the actors are not in a propper way when I put them on the right side. There's a free image on imdb from the UK dvd, but I don't know how to put it. And the external links, I don't know how to work with them. If you or whoever can check them... Sorry. ¡¡¡¡ Gracias !!!!Rohmerin 18:16, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

-- Billabong XXL Wiki Page -- Hey the Billabong XXL page is looking pretty good, keep working on it. Ill add some pics and keep editing it... thanks mate :). -- Ok, your right about the pictures... I do have some i wanted to add.. (http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w154/busterbus25/mparsons.jpg) (example)

!!--Billabong XXL is an annual professional big wave surfing competition season held since 2003.-- (This is incorrect, the competition has been held since 2001. (See pic)!! http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w154/busterbus25/mparsons.jpg -- Cool man, im on the Central Coast, California...

just a few hours from Mavericks, half moon bay... 

-- Right on, you have all that warm water in Wales... The California central coast water is pretty chilly... But, Mavericks is definitly the Coldest, Spookest, Creepest...

Finland articles

Hey. It's great to see you back editing articles in this area. You have done fantastic work again, especially on Aaro Hellaakoski, Martti Haavio and Olavi Paavolainen. I don't know how you manage to be so fast. I'll do the translation on Temmes, but not right now as I'm a bit busy. I'm planning to concentrate more on spaghetti westerns, so it's currently Italy for me. Prolog 21:17, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, there is a lot of work to do. Hopefully the WikiProject you initiated will help co-ordinate things. Westerns by directors named Sergio (Corbucci and Sollima too) are all good. Prolog 21:25, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, I have translated the information from the Finnish Wikipedia for Temmes. The translation is probably not very good, but at least it has a bit more information now. Prolog 02:01, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

British and Visconti

I edited several mistakes in Conversation piece (film). It's one of my favourite films, and I swear it's not an American movie.

Yes, I can help with the British films, BUT: I've not finished with the Italian list yet; and this week (from wednesday) and next one I'll enjoy holidays, so, please, be patience. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rohmerin (talk • contribs) 21:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC).

I own ALL the books about Visconti in Spanish language, I own the film's script in French. IMDB have got mistakes. That American co - prodution is one of them. The film is an Italian - French co production. Rohmerin 21:11, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

see you soon. I'll be on holidaaaaaays at Prague. So, the British list must wait my comeback. (It's a hard work, there're lots of British films in wikipedia). Ciao ! Rohmerin 19:12, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject James Bond

I just thought you'd like to know that I have proposed a WikiProject dedicated to improving Wiki's library of James Bond information. If you're interested, go to the project page and add your name under 'Interested Wikipedians' . Don't be afraid to mention the project to other people you know will want to help. I look forward to starting the project as soon as interest shows itself. Ganfon 01:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the offer, but I must decline. My current wiki-activities occupy my schedule enough. I wish you sucess with the project. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 19:45, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

New Chile related articles

Could you please add the references, in the "New articles section", to your recently Chile related articles in Wikipedia:Chile-related regional notice board‎? Kilroytech 21:30, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm kind of busy at present. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"Expecting you" Contribs} 21:32, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/Ananthabhadram/archive1

Submitted Ananthabhadram for a peer review. Would you care to take a look? Aditya Kabir 05:29, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Started!

Hey there, just thought I'd let you know that the James Bond WikiProject has been started. I appreciate your interest, and know you will be a great asset to making this project successful. I look forward to working with you soon. Ganfon 10:56, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll think about it. I have a lot on my plate right now, but I may join.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 19:26, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

List Of Italian Films

Yep - I guess I was a little trigger happy there WhaleyTim 16:41, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Make sure you add <br clear="all" /> before the firts header so that the list template to the right stays out of the table. In your computer don't you see the overlap? Anyway as I said to Peter, I'll be editing very little in the next days. Tech problems. Cheers! Hoverfish Talk 16:44, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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Category:Horror films by decade

Why was this category merged upwards?--ZayZayEM 03:03, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Bondpedia

I presume that you like James Bond I suggest you come to bondpedia.net. it's a wiki dedicated to James Bond and if you like James Bond you'll like this..

Your userpage

Hello Ernst! Where did you get these beautiful images to your userpage? What is your height by the way? Grumpanelli 07:37, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Cool! I also saw the rest of your pictures. It was really amazing. Best wishes! Grumpanelli 12:22, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Bond Films

Thanks for the compliment on the film articles. I've been working on them for several weeks, even before the project started. The Man with the Golden Gun article looks great. ColdFusion650 16:45, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Just looking at the formatting of the articles you've worked on, they look great. I haven't had time to review all of the content changes, if you made any. I've been in classes all day, and I'm trying to catch up on all the changes. It seems all the Bond related articles on my watchlist have lots of changes. When I get caught up on reviewing all of the changes, I'm going to try to start working on the needed section in The World Is Not Enough. ColdFusion650 16:57, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

WP:James Bond

Good job on helping to get that started. Hopefully it will continue to improve the quality of the James Bond articles. I'm sorry if I haven't got back to you in a while, I've assessing for WP:Filmmakers, developing Leslie Nielsen, and have had a lot of schoolwork. I don't want to edit the The Man with the Golden Gun since I haven't seen the film yet and don't want to spoil it for me (I'm waiting to buy a boxset of all of the James Bond DVDs, and then have a marathon weekend!). I'm going to try to cut down on my editing the next few weeks anyway since I got some big papers and finals to study for. I may be working on completing another film article in the meantime. Good luck on the James Bond article though. --Nehrams2020 01:51, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I was always surprised that I haven't seen them all by now. I'm 19 and have only seen Casino Royale, Die Another Day, and my favorite, From Russia with Love. So I have a long way to go. --Nehrams2020 18:11, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Images

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Terve!

How are you? Can you put all these images in commons so that they can be used in the rest of wikipedias?

Kiitos

Gaudio 16:23, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Amici miei

Hi pal! He... it seems we had a conflict edit with Amici Miei. Can I ask you to correct my English (which is more an Italian-turned-into-English)? Bye and stay connected for Atto II. --Attilios 19:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. What about my language? --Attilios 20:01, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Lists

You've got a point. I was only finding the red links someone put on the project talk page. If you think that they could be made into redirects, or other content moved there, no objections. The list of actors looked like a kind of silly request as well, but someone asked for it. If you think something else does just as well, you can feel free to request speedy deletion of either of the lists and refer to this comment here as being where the creator of the page authorized such deletion. John Carter 20:13, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

The list of actors I was referring to above was the requested list of actors who played Bond. Not a general list of actors from the Bond series. The last three requested lists on the talk page are lists of henchmen, villains, and allies. Unfortunately, it isn't always easy to determine which groupings all the characters necessarily fall under, General Gogol among them. On that basis, I think that maybe an alphabetical list (either by character name or actor name, or both) might be the best way to go. Also, List of actresses who portrayed Bond girls probably has much the same questions regarding it as the list of Bond actors does. In that case, however, I think we can hopefully add some details on the individuals who don't already have separate pages, or any real descriptions of them anywhere in wikipedia. There are currently thirteen such red links on that page. For what it's worth, the pictures were made as big as they were because of the dearth of text. They clearly could be made smaller, or that page eliminated entirely as well. John Carter 20:38, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

List of actors who portrayed James Bond

By your comment on my talk page, I think you think I created that page. I didn't. The old title had the word "portay". It was misspelled, so I renamed it. Carter created the page. ColdFusion650 20:14, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

What you decide to do about this article doesn't really matter to me. ColdFusion650 20:42, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Casting article

Unfortunately, the article which was the source of the "200 names" comment lists very few of them. Otherwise, that does strike me as a good idea. John Carter 20:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Like I said, I don't care. Casting of James Bond sounds fine. ColdFusion650 20:48, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

List of British films

Hello ESB. I would be happy to give what help I can on this page. I just have a few questions before getting started.

1. Where are we getting the info from to add to this page? Your note says that you are on the A's and I just need to know where to go so that I don't miss any films.
2. What are the criteria for including a film on this page? For instance do the films that Stanley Kubrick made in England count as British films? For example even though Full Metal Jacket was made in the UK it is about an American subject.
3. How do you want things to look? Do you want them in alpha order? I notice that you are leaving the qualifieers showing a la Dr. No (film). I am in the habit of covering these from view by adding the |Dr. No designation. If you don't want that just let me know and I won't do it.

As we get into it if there is anything else that you want me to change feel free to let me know.

Oh, I almost forgot to ask in helping the head of S.P.E.C.T.R.E. am I violating the Official Secrets Act? I know its a cheesy joke but I just couldn't resist. I look forward to hearing from you and thanks for asking for my assistance. MarnetteD | Talk 18:25, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi again. I thought that I might start at the other end of the alphabet (and have already entered Zarek) so that we don't wind up doubling up each others work if we happen to be editing at the same time. If that isn't okay with you just let me know. MarnetteD | Talk 19:17, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

A new question. What do you want to do with films where the title starts with the word "The"? Put them in the T's or use the second word as the one we alphabetize them by? Either way is fine with me. Also, I'm caught up in doing a couple of other little cleanup projects here at wikiP - which is limiting how much time I'm putting in on yours at the moment, but I'll keep plugging away whenever I get a chance. Cheers :) MarnetteD | Talk 00:32, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

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Lage Raho Munna Bhai is in FAC

The FAC of Lage Raho Munna Bhai has started. It is a Bollywood comedy film that has created great interest, and revived the tenets of Gandhism (principles of Mahatma Gandhi) in India. Please do visit. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks to a hailstorm, my internet connection is non-functional now. Using web from a cafe. Will get back as soon as my connection is alive. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 06:07, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

RE: Towers of Bologna

I totally agree with you! I hope you don't mind but I added the page to the list of articles awaiting translation as well. I also moved the translation box so it didn't interfere with the article and the quote the was affecting the TOC. Thatguy69^talk 12:10, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Bird lists

I'm creating them with a semi-automated process, so I don't have the ability to check whether an associated category exists. Once I get a decent connection I'll write a bot to trawl round them correcting the links and adding the appropriate cats. Cheers, Yomangani^talk 12:44, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I added the images manually to Belize (my script isn't that advanced). Yomangani^talk 12:51, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I don't know if you are planning to write any more bird articles, but you might like to look at the tweaks I've made to Slaty-backed Thrush Jimfbleak. ^{Talk to me.}15:48, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Great. You can get the author by googling "scientific name ITIS" and the conservation status and countries in which occurs in by doing a genus, then species, data search at birdlife international Jimfbleak. ^{Talk to me.}16:36, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Biota is uncommon and off-putting -wildlife is better. Jimfbleak. ^{Talk to me.}16:43, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Makes sense! Jimfbleak. ^{Talk to me.}16:55, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Wildlife of...

It's a good idea to have a top level wildlife article for each country or region, but it is probably easier to to work with them once the fauna and flora articles are written (I started on List of Cuban birds because I was going to do a Fauna of Cuba article and it was hard to know where to start). By the way, if you like the Belize bird list it is up as a featured list candidate and is currently drawing zero comments. Yomangani^talk 22:22, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I like the template, Jimfbleak. ^{Talk to me.}04:43, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I dislike the template but I think it is a fantastic concept. I think a {Africa in topic| ... } is a good format and not excessively long, long the template is. The problem arises with stubs; it just looks awkward to have the template 4 times longer than the text. All the same, I will definitely help out on them.--Thomas.macmillan 14:07, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

So why don't we convert it to the Africa in topic template for now and when long enough, convert it to the other template? It makes sense from a readability stand point.--Thomas.macmillan 14:36, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I'd support reformatting the template to a horizontal one until most articles are beyond the stub.--Thomas.macmillan 14:39, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Mangalore

About your stub on St Aloysius Chapel, yes I know somethings, let me see what I can do.--PremKudva^Talk 04:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Check the following links out they are really useful. St. Aloysius College Chapel St Aloysius College celebrates Br Moscheni’s death centenary --PremKudva^Talk 06:05, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for creating template WildlifeofIndia. Kindly take a look at the Kaziranga National Park and get me know if there is anything more to do before the FAC. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 16:21, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Can u review it for GAC and take the desicion as u feel? Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 16:42, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Daniel Brandt

The goss is he's a longtime conspiracy theorist and activist. His interests are in government espionage organizations and large corporations he believes are engaging in secret activities and/or avoiding accountability through their clandestine activities. Someone on Wikipedia started an article on him based on many interviews and his memoir a couple of years ago, and he now claims that compiling all this previously published biographical information is an "invasion of privacy." The irony is that he runs an organization called Public Information Research that does just that: compiles published data on people. In other words, what's good for the goose is not good for the gander. Perhaps he should read hypocrisy. Wikipedia is also a competitor of sorts: a large cross-indexed database of publicly available information, but with a few million more editors.

It's pretty obvious to most that his efforts in the public sphere make him a limited public figure, but there is a dispute generated by Brandt and his supporters claiming he is not notable, in order to get the article removed. Over the last two years, he has dedicated a substantial amount of time to outing anonymous editors and disrupting Wikipedia, ironically making himself much more notable in the process. Some Wikipedians believe that removing the article on him will end his legal threats and cyberstalking of anonymous editors. Others (like me) believe that this is an important test case of Wikipedia policies regarding notability and biographies of living persons. It's a lot more complicated than that, but that's the basics. Jokestress 18:48, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

UK

I did 2 Italian film stubs, and I started with the UK list (Hitchcock in the 30's). I'll work what I can because I don't have so many free time as before I enjoyed. Ciao.

PS: There's an edit confilct with L'ultimo bacio and One Last Kiss in list of 200s Italian films. I don't know how to use redirect for making L'ultimo bacio = One last kiss (2001 film). Any help? Thank's. Rohmerin 05:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Film List

I replied in the talk page of List of Hong Kong films. I am proposing a merge. Benjwong 01:38, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

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