User talk:Blindsocialist

August 2021

Hello, I'm Johnnie Bob. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Angela Rye, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you.

I see where you have tried to include a reference for one of your changes, but apparently didn't quite know how to do it so you partially reverted your own change. Other material, such as her no longer being on the CNN staff, remain unsourced. When dealing with biographies of living persons, every edit needs to be supported by a WP:RELIABLE WP:SOURCE. Please try your edits again with the proper sourcing. — Johnnie Bob (talk) 21:57, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Angela Rye. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include, but are not limited to, links to personal websites, links to websites with which you are affiliated (whether as a link in article text, or a citation in an article), and links that attract visitors to a website or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Because Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines. If you feel the link should be added to the page, please discuss it on the associated talk page rather than re-adding it. Thank you. Tacyarg (talk) 19:05, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you can be reading this. Please slow down your edits and read the information about external links. Please do not add further external links. Tacyarg (talk) 19:28, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Johnnie Bob-- I have not provided links to any personal sites, and to the contrary am trying to edit the Angela Rye page for her links to personal sites. Apologies as I thought links/references were required for adding new information to a wiki

Hi there, thanks for responding. Please sign your name with four tildes ~ on a talk page so people can tell who is writing. The external links I'm talking about is when you enclose a reference with square brackets followed by text and then close the square brackets. Like this: [www.thisisanexample.co.uk example]. This produces a blue link which looks like a wikilink but is actually outside wiki. If the URL you have used is actually a reference for the statement you have added, it goes after the statement in < ref > brackets. I'll paste a Welcome on this page so you can read about referencing. Please also don't mark edits as minor unless they are very small changes eg typos. Best wishes, Tacyarg (talk)

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16:02, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Angela Rye has been reverted.
Your edit here to Angela Rye was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline. The external link(s) you added or changed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMliuChIyEE) is/are on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. If the external link you inserted or changed was to a media file (e.g. music or video) on an external server, then note that linking to such files may be subject to Wikipedia's copyright policy, as well as other parts of our external links guideline. If the information you linked to is indeed in violation of copyright, then such information should not be linked to. Please consider using our upload facility to upload a suitable media file, or consider linking to the original.
If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. However, if the link does not comply with our policies and guidelines, but your edit included other, constructive, changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! --XLinkBot (talk) 14:41, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Angela Rye, you may be blocked from editing. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:05, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello-- I am. not vandalizing any page, I am trying to restore verified edits that are being vandalized through deletion. It is my edits that were approved over a week ago that are being vandalized. I am only trying to restore previous versions with citations that include several news articles. There is another account attempting to remove all of this information for a publicist-friendly version of this living biography. I would like to go into arbitration about this. I am not the vandal, another account is vandalizing my edits. It is not the bot making editorial edits, there arer whole paragraphs of verified information being removed deliberately by a human. Blindsocialist (talk) 16:09, 22 August 2021 (UTC)@blindsocialist[reply]

Notice of discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Blindsocialist: not here to build an encyclopedia. Thank you. Johnnie Bob (talk) 19:59, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Hello, Blindsocialist, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

You may also want to complete the Wikipedia Adventure, an interactive tour that will help you learn the basics of editing Wikipedia. You can visit the Teahouse to ask questions or seek help. Need some ideas about what kind of things need doing? Try the Task Center.

Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask for help on your talk page, and a volunteer should respond shortly. Again, welcome! Tacyarg (talk) 20:13, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

thank you-- all very helpful for a newbie like myself who dove in Blindsocialist (talk) 20:24, 13 August 2021 (UTC)blindsocialist[reply]

August 2021

You have been blocked from editing from certain pages (Angela Rye) for a period of 2 weeks for edit warring in additional violation of WP:ONUS in a biography of a living person after previous disruption in the same article. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:40, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Important notice

This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have shown interest in articles about living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have shown interest in post-1992 politics of the United States and closely related people. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:41, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

hi @tobefree I don't see any messages requiring my response to which I have not responded. Please let me know where I have ignored or missed Talk messages requesting my reply Blindsocialist (talk) 15:55, 22 August 2021 (UTC)blindsocialist[reply]

Hi Blindsocialist, I'm now replying on the third page – WP:Teahouse, User talk:ToBeFree, and here. Any place is fine, but centralization would be helpful.

To answer the question, I'm not sure how this is relevant. You have edit warred instead of seeking consensus on the article's talk page (Talk:Angela Rye). That's all the block is about. The block duration has been influenced by the amount of earlier warnings about your editing in the same article, but the block is about the edit warring. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:00, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

June 2023

Please stop and familiarize yourself with policy, as above. You have already been blocked for the same sort of edits on Rye's bio. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 04:17, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

everything I have said has been backed with sources. Rye's page originally cited her father's career in her early life section and yet when I edited that her father's career also included a $163,000 embezzlement scandal I was told that her father's career was not relevant to hers. Again, her farther's career was originally cited on her article and it is customary for personal/early like sections to note newsworthy events of the subject's family members. For example,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Stayner Steven Stayner's "birth and family" section includes a reference and link to his brother, Cary, who was a serial killer in an otherwise completely unrelated series of events. With Rye, her father's career is relevant because she frequently features and promotes her father across her public content.

I have further corrected incorrect information. the "early life" section referred to Rye as being raised Catholic. Her father is a baptist minister in the Church of God in Christ, an evangelical protestant denomination.

Why is my accurate updating being censored on this article? -- BlindSocialist

Quoting from WP:OR, "you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article and directly support the material being presented." (emphasis in original) So, one way to avoid the WP:OR policy problems you introduced into the article would be to ensure your sources are actually about the article subject, to some degree at least. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/schools-scandal-how-did-163000-end-up-at-obscure-nonprofit/ does not even mention Angela Rye. https://www.knkx.org/youth-education/2011-10-25/theft-charges also does not mention Angela Rye.

Thanks for explaining why you removed that she was raised Catholic, which was not clear to me at first. I checked the cited sources and indeed they do not support that, so I have taken that out.

User:ToBeFree might have some additional guidance, as I see they were trying to help you out a couple of years ago here. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 20:40, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have some guidance for you, Blindsocialist: leave her father out of it. Drmies (talk) 20:43, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Paul Erik and Drmies, I'm almost afraid of thanking you for the ping as this might not be the "guidance" you had hoped for. However, this account is close to turning 2 years old, and all it was ever used for is a disruptive focus on negativity about one single living person. There's no guidance left I can provide. The primary reason for this being a partial block is my unwillingness to evaluate an unblock appeal that consists of nothing but a pledge to edit other topics instead. The user can now already do so. If I may bet, it won't happen, except perhaps fueled by the feeling of having to prove this message here wrong. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:05, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ToBeFree. I think your approach here is completely reasonable, given the long-term nature of the disruption. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 22:12, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing certain pages (Angela Rye) for long-duration edit warring, violations of the biographies of living persons policy and a significant disruptive focus on adding negative statemnts to one person's biography.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:45, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How to continue from here, and how not to

Non-options:

Sockpuppetry / block evasion. The Wikipedia community isn't as naive as you may expect it to be.
Editing other biographies with a similar focus on adding negative statements.
Expecting an unblock with my agreement anytime soon.

Available options:

Leaving Wikipedia if the only reason for your presence here is gone
Starting to participate in building an encyclopedia by editing articles about subjects you have no negative feelings about, preferably not people at least for starters. The Task Center and the community portal contain ideas.

~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:53, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]