User talk:Blaze The Movie Fan/Archive May 2008
Dear TheBlazikenMaster,
When I posted a reply to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cole_Turner#Belthazor_should_be_merged_here.
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Belthazor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belthazor should be merged here. It is the same character, and I can't see how it has enough information to have page of its own. TheBlazikenMaster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheBlazikenMaster (talk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheBlazikenMaster) 23:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC))
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It somehow (and very unintentionally) wiped out all of the following (including most of my reply posting), and I'm not sure why (or whom I contact to fix it):
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Belthazor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belthazor should be merged here. It is the same character, and I can't see how it has enough information to have page of its own. TheBlazikenMaster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheBlazikenMaster (talk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheBlazikenMaster) 23:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Reply to above suggestion: Belthazor and Cole should not be merged into one article, they were two different characters. Belthazor was a Demon, pure and simple. Cole was much more than that. He had a soul, he had the ability to love to a great extent, and he was not destroyed when Belthazor was vanquished. They were two separate entities trapped in the same body. And the biggest point behind my arguement- Belthazor was a demon and hence inherently evil- cole was a great man with a strong heart. 27 June 2008- Troy Rison —Preceding unsigned http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures comment added by 4.224.117.238 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/4.224.117.238 (talk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:4.224.117.238) 05:02, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Charmed - Cole Turner story arc episodes:
Two beings born together and joined together: Cole Turner (human) / Belthazor (demon):
The Honeymoon's Over
Magic Hour
Once Upon A Time
All Halliwell's Eve
Sight Unseen
Primrose Empath
Power Outage
Sleuthing With The Enemy
Coyote Piper (No Cole - Phoebe sees a vision of Cole's human father being killed by Cole's demon mother)
Bride And Gloom
The Good, The Bad, And The Cursed
Just Harried
Death Takes A Halliwell
The Demon Who Came In From The Cold
Exit Strategy
Look Who's Barking
All Hell Breaks Loose
Charmed Again
Hell Hath No Fury
Enter The Demon
Brain Drain
Black As Cole
Cole Turner (human) / Magical void inside him where Belthazor had existed [Belthazor the demon is dead (1), and only Cole the human exists (as stated in Charmed scripts from this point on, up until when the human Cole is possessed by the Source Of All Evil)]:
Muse To My Ears
A Paige From The Past
Lost And Bound
Charmed And Dangerous
Cole Turner (human) / possessed by the Source Of All Evil via the empty magical void inside him - where Belthazor had existed - being filled by the Source Of All Evil (after the Source was vanquished by Cole / The Hollow and The Power Of Three in "Charmed And Dangerous"):
The Three Faces Of Phoebe
Marry-Go-Round
The Fifth Halliwell
Saving Private Leo
Bite Me
We're Off To See The Wizard
Long Live The Queen
Womb Raider (Cole's voice - only in the last scene...)
Cole Turner (human in spirit form) - a spirit in the astral Demonic Wasteland:
Which Way Now?
Cole Turner (human) / raw demonic powers from Demonic Wasteland, returned to Life:
A Witches Tail Part 1 & Part 2
Happily Ever After
Siren Song
Witches In Tights
Sympathy For The Demon
A Witch In Time
Cole Turner (human) / raw demonic powers from Demonic Wasteland, returned to Life, begins going insane from a combination of the toxic effects of demonic powers based on concentrated evil, despair, and loneliness:
Sam, I Am
Y Tu Mummy Tambien
Cole Turner (human) / raw demonic powers from Demonic Wasteland, returned to Life - having completely lost his sanity:
The Importance Of Being Phoebe
Cole Turner (human) / Avatar of Force and Power - then changed to Cole Turner (human) in an alternate reality / with the demonic powers of Belthazor (but not with Belthazor reincarnated), and also with the same physical and magical venerabilities he had when he was part of Cole Turner / Belthazor (due to Cole having "assumed the role of"Cole Turner / Belthazor, via displacing that alternate Cole Turner / Belthazor inside the alternate reality his Avatar spell created):
Centennial Charmed
Cole Turner (human in spirit form) - now sane again - trapped in a void in-between Life and Death - still with some limited magical powers that let him be seen, heard by and interact to some limited degree with those in the World (including Drake), and also apparently even more so with those on the edge of death (2):
The Seven Year Witch
(1) [Cut to the living room. Cole, Kurzon and Little Phoebe are there. Little Phoebe is screaming and then faints on the couch. Kurzon throws an energy ball at Little Phoebe.]
Cole: No! (Cole blocks little Phoebe's body and the energy ball hits him. Kurzon looks surprised.) Leave the girl alone!
Kurzon: Belthazor? I thought you were dead.
Cole: He is! (A dagger materialises in Cole's hand and he throws it at Kurzon. Kurzon pulls it out of his body.)
Kurzon: It'll take more than that to stop me.
Cole: Very well. (Cole creates and throws a demonic fireball at Kurzon, knocking him down. Kurzon gets back up.)
Kurzon: The Source!
[Piper, Phoebe, Paige and Leo run down the stairs. Kurzon shimmers out...]
(2) Piper's spirit: What are you exactly? Ghost, demon, poltergeist, nightmare?
Cole: None of the above. We're caught in a cosmic void…between Life and Death.
Piper's spirit: I’m stuck with you?"
Cole: No. If you play your cards right, you can get out of this nasty limbo. I’m the one who’s here for all eternity...
and:
Cole: I’m cursed to live in eternity, without love, for what I’ve done, and I accept that. But I don't want Phoebe to be cursed, too. She needs love. She deserves it. But she's not going to keep looking for it unless you give her a reason to. Now, you and Leo are that reason...
Mtq (talk) 21:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
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