User talk:Billybobjoe321

Recent edit to IPhone

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that you made a change to an article, IPhone, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 04:19, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

June 2015

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Windows 10, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. ViperSnake151 Talk 23:26, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

September 2015

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Microsoft Office 2013. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Mdrnpndr (talk) 03:05, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Microsoft Office 2003. Mdrnpndr (talk) 02:17, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you. Mdrnpndr (talk) 18:16, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Microsoft Office 2010

Hello, Billy

It appears you have been here for while now, so you probably know one of our very important rules: Wikipedia:Verifiability. Well, as a matter of fact, you have received several messages about it so far.

I am calling about your contribution in Microsoft Office 2010 article. I checked the associated source contents and "Windows 10" was not in the source. So, please refrain from adding it. And, in the light of the messages I see in your talk page, I advise you to take verifiability more seriously, or risk facing an action by an administrator.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 08:40, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again

I am fully aware that one cannot provide a source for his own experience and assumptions. The point is: They are forbidden in Wikipedia. While Wikipedia can be readily edited, it is meant to be the last place to contain information.

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 23:36, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again

Look, if you prefer a newer screenshot in Microsoft Office 2003 article, we understand. You don't need to claim that Office 2003 is yours and is free contents!!! And you uploaded your screenshot on another website called Wikimedia Commons; they don't accept non-free material at all. Now, English Wikipedia has a set of very strict rules about using copyright protected contents, called WP:NFCC. Also, please consult Wikipedia:Screenshot for details.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 15:38, 22 October 2015 (UTC) Codename Lisa (talk) 15:38, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Windows 10

Unfortunately, we cannot accept your edit. Reddit is an internet forum, and thus, user-generated content. User-generated content is considered an unreliable source, because it is both self-published, and not written by an established expert on the subject matter. ViperSnake151 Talk 00:44, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Appropriate operating systems for screenshots

Hello

I've noticed you have recently tried to update to several Wikipedia screenshots to show their subjects in Windows 10. You probably have noticed that your attempts are often reverted by more than one user.

A requirement of both fair use (a law that we use to upload copyright-protected material) and licensed use is not to misrepresent the subject of the article. When you upload the screenshot of an app on Windows 10, you are giving the impression that the said app natively support Windows 10. In case of Windows Live Essentials and Microsoft Office 97, this is not true.

While I am aware how time-consuming it is to take new screenshots, I hope you understand that sometimes, you should not undertake this time-consuming errand. Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 09:32, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Codename Lisa:,

Don't all "apps" natively support Windows 10? If it's on the "Windows app Store", it should work on any kind of computer, really. But I've never updated any "app" screenshots on Wikipedia. Not sure what you mean.

However, I have noticed that two of my updated screenshots for some programs have been reverted. My Office 97 on Windows 10 picture was reverted back to the one on Windows NT Workstation, but I concur with the reversal. The reverse wasn't because of the fact that it was on Windows 10, but rather, the screenshot was different from the original (I had different Office programs open; didn't notice this while making the screenshot.), and also, it wasn't low resolution (which is a requirement for copyrighted images). I will later redo that image when I find my old Office 97 disk somewhere. :)

All of the Essentials programs work on Windows 10. There are various sources that all claim all of the Essentials programs work just fine under Windows 10 (including one by Microsoft themselves), and I can attach one of those to the article. It's time to phase out Windows 8 screenshots. Billybobjoe321 (talk) 01:44, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"...including one by Microsoft themselves..." Please show me. If it isn't much trouble.

"It's time to phase out Windows 8 screenshots." Why? As long as there is no improvements besides arbitrarily showing bits and pieces of a newer OS, I see no need. It is just a burden for the uploader, server, watchers and the revision deletion backlog.

"Don't all "apps" natively support Windows 10?" iOS, Android and Windows Mobile apps don't.

But I think you and I had a little chat before that stalker descended like a plague, starting a disruption war and getting blocked.

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 18:14, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Codename Lisa:,

"Please show me. If it isn't much trouble." https://web.archive.org/web/20151106190446/http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/get-movie-maker-download http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/where-is-movie-maker-in-windows-10

Obviously, Micro$oft removed "Windows 10" from the download page to trick users into thinking their horrendous "Windows Store" is the only way to get software. They think users want to find some garbage, half-baked "app" to do the job instead. Silly Microsoft!

"Why? As long as there is no improvements besides arbitrarily showing bits and pieces of a newer OS, I see no need. It is just a burden for the uploader, server, watchers and the revision deletion backlog." I guess so, but it would be nice to have continuity across all programs on Wikipedia.

"iOS, Android and Windows Mobile apps don't." What?

Billybobjoe321 (talk) 19:15, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The live version of the first source no longer lists Windows 10. Maybe it was a mistake that they fixed. Anyway, the live version tallies with this: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/essentials-2012-release-notes. The second source that you provided clearly says "Windows Movie Maker is not supported for Windows 10". Also, if by "continuity" you mean "consistency", MOS:STABILITY says the exact opposite. Cross-article consistency is not required. And I don't really know what you mean by "nice"; they are all equally nice to me. But for fair use policy, that's another matter. (Speaking unofficially, if you hate Windows Store just as much as I do, you can get your apps from other places... unless you strictly want Metro-style apps; i.e. you don't want the traditional desktop apps or web apps.)

You asked "Don't all 'apps' natively support Windows 10?" and I answer no, "iOS, Android and Windows Mobile apps don't."

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 19:43, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"... unless you strictly want Metro-style apps; i.e. you don't want the traditional desktop apps or web apps.)" Ok, you confused me when you used "app" instead of programme. I always connect "app" with mobile "app" for phones, not for desktops.

"The live version of the first source no longer lists Windows 10. Maybe it was a mistake that they fixed." Probably not a mistake, just Mickeysoft trying to trick their users.

"Also, if by "continuity" you mean "consistency", MOS:STABILITY says the exact opposite. Cross-article consistency is not required." I've seen a ton of articles on Wikipedia about Windows components (such as Control Panel (Windows), Device Manager, and more) get updated screenshots for Windows 10. What makes them any different? Billybobjoe321 (talk) 03:14, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The screenshots are meant to portray the latest version of a program, if significantly different from the one shown. Not the latest OS. But as an OS component, their versions are synonymous with the newest version of Windows. ViperSnake151 Talk 03:33, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Good point, Viper. But what if I want to update a screenshot for an OLD program whose current screenshot is for an old version of it? Do I have to dig out my Windows XP and install it on a virtual machine just to get the screenshot, or can I go ahead and use Windows 10? Billybobjoe321 (talk) 03:38, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Which old program? If it's Office 97, it doesn't need to be updated. Because it hasn't been updated at all. ViperSnake151 Talk 03:41, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I wasn't referring to Office 97 specifically. For example, Prime95. I just updated the screenshot for that program since the old screenshot was showing an old version of Prime95 under Windows 7. Is there a problem with this type of situation? Billybobjoe321 (talk) 03:51, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The screenshot to which you are referring is a free screenshot under GPL license. You don't have that kind of restriction. You could even upload a full-sized screenshot. Also, the program is updated on 30 May 2014, so the article's accuracy won't be compromised. So, yes, Prime95 is okay.

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 06:32, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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