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Your submission at Articles for creation: Sonay Kartal (February 21)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Iffy was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines for sports persons and athletes). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Iffy★Chat -- 10:12, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Bigbrain500! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Iffy★Chat -- 10:12, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi and welcome!

Hi Bigbrain500! Welcome to Wikipedia. I checked out the draft you wrote at Draft:Sonay Kartal, and I appreciate how you took care to write with a neutral perspective and to cite your sources, which are two core principles on Wikipedia (you can check out the pages at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and Wikipedia:Verifiability to see the formal statements of those principles) - great job on those.

It looks like it got declined because of a third principle, "notability". There's a checklist at Wikipedia:Notability (sports)#Tennis that explains the accomplishments that a tennis player must have already achieved before they are eligible for their own Wikipedia article, and I encourage checking it out. From what I can see from your cited sources, it looks like she's well on her way, but may not be far enough in her career yet to qualify. But you know the subject better than I do, and I'd definitely encourage reviewing that checklist and seeing if you can document her as meeting those qualifications.

Even if she's not "notable" enough for her own article yet, I'd encourage reviewing related articles about tennis and seeing if you'd like to improve them, such as adding cited sentences about her to other articles where her accomplishments are relevant, or making other improvements to topics that you know well and care about.

Please let me know if you have any questions that I could help with - you can write a comment on this page or on my talk page at User talk:Dreamyshade. Thanks for being here! Dreamyshade (talk) 17:12, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Great to add more sources to the article you're working on. To help you and other editors evaluate the depth of the sourcing, I worked a little on converting a few of the raw URLs to fully-formatted citations. That makes the references easier to review at a glance to figure out which ones are from news sources, which are from databases, etc. Are you using Visual Editor Help:VisualEditor? It has a tool for adding citations that I find a lot easier than "source" editing, and you might find it helpful - check out Help:VisualEditor#Adding a new reference. Dreamyshade (talk) 19:59, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sonay Kartal (April 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:

Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at Sonay Kartal instead.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please fold draft information into article.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Sonay Kartal and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Sonay Kartal, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Robert McClenon (talk) 02:15, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]