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Did you not read the copyright information on the image? The author specifically states he gives permission for the use of his photo hence the attribution. The quality of images in the Sydney article are really lacking, and there are no where near too many. Not to mention they all represent unknown, insignificant parts of Sydney. See pages like San Francisco, Melbourne, Toronto, New York, London etc. Those articles use excellent images that highlight the city in question perfectly. Sydney's does not. It doesn't even have a montage for pete sake! How far behind can this page be? Ashton 29 (talk) 06:58, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

STOP uploading copyrighted photographs, none of them had any permission and were under unfree licenses. You have been warned and you will be blocked. Bidgee (talk) 07:00, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Shaking in my boots. I JUST SAID, that one of the images is actually an attribution, go look at the link yourself. Read here: [1]. I also have permission from the author to use the photo. It's not like the photo belongs to some huge corporation, it belongs to a freelance photographer who gave me permission to use it, and who also gives permission for it to be shared. I don't understand the problem If you want the Sydney article to look how it does now, fair enough, with all those poor quality photos that make the city look like it belongs in some third world nation. Ashton 29 (talk) 08:20, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Maybe free to you but it isn't for Wikipedia. We only allow PD, GFDL (though it isn't the best license for photos), CC-PD, CC-BY and CC-BY-SA licenses since NC and ND is restrictive (fair-use doesn't apply since the photograph is seen as replaceable) and isn't seen as "free" (See Commons:Licensing). You say you have "permission" but I don't see it and the license isn't free. You have uploaded a number of photographs which you uploaded under a free license or claimed that it is your own when the copyright holder states it is copyrighted or has it as a retrictive license. I'll repeat one more time, if you do not cease uploaded copyrighted files you will be blocked. Bidgee (talk) 10:42, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's sport

Hello if women's sports fascinate you: WikiProject Women's sport and Portal:Women's sport, --Cordialement féministe ♀ Cordially feminist Geneviève (talk) 23:59, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Gundagai

hi bidgee, Having read the Gundagai article and talk page, and some of the talk pages of its past editors, I took it upon myself to do a drastic edit to try and get it back to an encyclopedic form. I put the peculiar spiritual, aboriginal and ghost material in a separate article called Gundagai Aboriginal lore, but I am not sure this is worth keeping. Perhaps if you are not completely sick of Gundagai, you might like to have a look at it now. Garyvines (talk) 04:01, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm sick of dealing with the IP, whom we refer as the Gundagai anon (click on the link and it will show the Arbcom case). In the past I've asked Admins on IRC and some talk pages, those whom use to be active left and others haven't been so helpful. Reason why I've given up on the Gundagai article. Bidgee (talk) 10:28, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

203.35.82.133

I blocked him for 24 hours, not so much because it was vandalism (not really) but because it was a clear 3RR violation. Since you were reverting an unsourced addition, I have chosen not to block you as well. However, some other admins in future such situations may not make that distinction. Should it recur it's better to take it to WP:ANEW before it gets to that level. Daniel Case (talk) 04:17, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about that, was just a little pissed off with them, as well as frustrated. Bidgee (talk) 10:28, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

BTW, it's well past November 2011, and you seem to be editing pretty vigorously. Shouldn't you take the wikibreak notice down? Daniel Case (talk) 04:17, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Been a little busy, but I missed removing it. Fixed now. Bidgee (talk) 10:28, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

wallaby

Please stop reverting every edit I make to a marsupial related article. I was only fixing the reference formating and I plan on expanding it for FA. I don't need to go to the talk page to discuss every edit I make especially since they are improvements. LittleJerry (talk) 01:30, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

You have to explain why you're making the changes to a GA article. I see the changes you're making are not in the best interests for the article. It needs for more content before it can become a FA. Bidgee (talk) 01:33, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

How are they not in the best interests? The ref formating is better and the other edits were just moving some text, which does nothing to hurt the article's quailty. Also, I just told you I'm EXPANDING this article some more for FA. LittleJerry (talk) 01:38, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

You're hardly expanding the article, you're chaning the article's layout without reason and saying that you'll be making it a FA isn't a reason. Changing the layout goes affect the article's quailty. Bidgee (talk) 01:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

I wasn't expanding it right this minute. I'm going to slowly expand it over the next few weeks. I'm the one who brought it to GA in the first place anyway. LittleJerry (talk) 01:49, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Okay okay, LittleJerry, as it is an Australian article, someone sooner or later is going to want the dates in Australian rather than American format, so you may as well go with the flow on that one now rather than frantically fixing it at FAC, trust me on this. Bidgee, he is the one that got it to GA that's true. Anyway, haven't checked the other rejigging yet. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:39, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Dog on the Tuckerbox

hi Bidgee, as a heads up, I made a small change to the Dog on the Tuckerbox page, which might incite the anonymous Gundagai editor again. Garyvines (talk) 23:47, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

sun parakeet / rainbow lorikeet

Don't get me wrong, but did you even look at what you did? I guess not, otherwise you wouldn't re-add dead links or remove more relevant ones... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.82.28.142 (talk) 02:35, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedia files reviewed on Wikimedia Commons by Bidgee

Hi! I made this category so that the files you moved to Commons could be added to that category. --MGA73 (talk) 14:50, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Ethnonym

I'm confused. Why is "Native Australian" offensive? Not contesting your edit though, just wanted to know so I can avoid the term in future articles.

Here in the Philippines the word nitibo from Spanish nativo is somewhat pejorative, as it is used almost purely for the less integrated tribal cultures left here. Is it the same reason in Australia?-- Obsidi♠n Soul 12:53, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Indigenous Australians take offence to "Native Australians". Though some tribes/people do not mind the use of Aborigine/Aboriginal, Indigenous is a word that is deemed to be neutral to the Indigenous Australians. Bidgee (talk) 13:15, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Happy Australia Day! Thank you for contributing to Australian content!

	Australian Wikimedian Recognition (AWR)
	Thank you for your contributions on English Wikipedia that have helped improve Australian related content. :D It is very much appreciated. :D Enjoy your Australia Day and please continue your good work! LauraHale (talk) 01:41, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

try this one

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-28/woman27s-body-found-at-alan-bond27s-home/3798360 SatuSuro 08:19, 28 January 2012 (UTC) http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/breaking-news/body-found-at-alan-bonds-house/story-e6frg12u-1226256180061 one wonders why chan 10 is jumping the gun SatuSuro 08:22, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

At this stage WA Police are withholding the name until the next of kind is notified[2]. So it shouldn't be added until such time that the WA Police release the name since the media is just crystal balling their news stories. Bidgee (talk) 08:23, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

I agree - just testing :) - cheers SatuSuro 08:26, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/tragedy-at-bond-mansion/story-e6freon6-1226256145356 -interesting - trying to have it both ways it is her but police not confirming in the one story SatuSuro 08:33, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Diana Bliss

Hi.

I'm sorry but I do not understand how this link does not confirm the death of Alan Bond's wife, Diana Bliss. If you think she is still alive then you should remove her name from the January 2011 deaths section as well.

Yours, Quis separabit? 00:20, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

News story gives it away that they are assuming (crystal balling) without facts from the police since WA Police are yet to name the person. Bidgee (talk) 00:25, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

OK, so shouldn't her name be removed from the list of 2011 deaths as well, in all seriousness!? Quis separabit? 00:27, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I've just done that. It should only be re-added once WA Police have released the name by a media release or press conference (ie: whatever comes first). Bidgee (talk) 00:29, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Aboriginal Tent Embassy

I just reverted one of your edits on Aboriginal Tent Embassy. I am happy to discuss it here with you, or on the Aboriginal Tent Embassy Talk Page. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 04:07, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry about adding the incorrect info to the Brisbane page. I realized afterwards that the temperature I added onto the climate data chart was recorded at the airport, and not in the inner-city. I was going to undo my edits, but you beat me to it. What I did was not vandalism, more as it was a mistake. Sorry about that. 99.249.133.245 (talk) 23:09, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Wagga Wagga

One of the principles at Wiki is that no-one owns any article. No matter how much work you put into an article, you don't own it and other people are entitled to make changes to it. I know it can be hard to accept sometimes; I have had the same problem, especially in my early days. The pix I replaced were generally poor and also unimportant; no-one wants to look at a shot of Myers. I also improved a few, especially the court house shot, which was a very poor shot indeed, so why you would prefer the original version is beyond me. Not worth having a war over, though, so I'll drop it.

Sardaka (talk) 10:16, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Wakka Wakka!

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

Your post at AN/I needs to be dealt with, Bidgee. It's in your best interests to do this soon, it seems. As an act of good faith, I suggest you strike the objectionable parts as your very next edit, whenever that is. Good luck :> Doc talk 10:01, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Good call! You did the right thing to diffuse conflict - very wise decision. We all screw up in real life and on WP, and you did good. Cheers :> Doc talk 10:36, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

User:Racepacket

By consensus of the Arbitration Committee, the request for arbitration enforcement in which you participated has been moved here. The hearing will take place at the new location,  Roger Davies ^talk 14:36, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Re:COMMONOUTCOMES can be ignored

Hello, Bidgee. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#User:Danjel and school AfDs.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

The question isn't exactly whether or not COMMONOUTCOMES can be ignored; the question is; "Is it right for someone who's ignoring them to call someone who's abiding by them "flat-out wrong"?". Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 01:54, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar of Integrity

		The Barnstar of Integrity
		You and I have had our differences in the past, but I appreciate that you didn't let that stand in the way of recognising and dealing with bullshit while I was busy. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 13:48, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

No problem, I was watching the edits they had made on your talk page but noticed they just didn't seem to get the point. Bidgee (talk) 11:16, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

New England Highway

The information under "Highway Improvements" is clearly plagiarised from Ozroads. You are correct in stating that the format is different, however it is only different as the Wiki editor has arranged from south-to-north rather than by date.

Regardless of whether you agree on whether it is plagiarism, each date requires a reference to a reputable source in order to be acceptable under the Wikipedia guidelines. Otherwise unreferenced material can be removed at any time. I have reverted your reversion pending this being achieved. 61.88.20.56 (talk) 03:28, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Anna Wood

How on earth am I suppose to obtain my own photograph, of someone that died more than 15 years ago? I'm sorry but Wikipedia's copyright laws are exhausting and annoying.Ashton 29 (talk) 09:33, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't have "copyright laws", it has a policy on copyright but it is up to you to follow it. Breaching the policy is also breaching the copyright law not just in the US but also Australia. Bidgee (talk) 11:15, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Roller derby: M.A.D.E.

Hi, can you keep an eye out on Roller derby? There was a reference added to the article about MADE today by an editor with no talk page and no user page. --LauraHale (talk) 19:55, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

IOC Bird names

Bidgee: I see you have reverted some recent page moves of Australian birds. The Bird wikiproject has come to agreement on standardizing using the IOC for english names, but have made exceptions mostly concerning common names that are popularly known as other bird names (African Grey Parrot instead of Grey Parrot for example. I know the group has made an exception for Australian Wood Duck, instead of the IOC Maned Duck as an example of an Australian bird. The problem I have with your changes this time involve primarily a couple of Cuckooshrikes. Your reverts make the species pages inconsistent, the ones you have reverted are listed with a dash ......, while the remainder of the species pages are listed without them. The Scrub-birds and the Crested Shrike-tit I can leave with your reverts,since they are only Australian species, but they would be IOC exceptions, based on consensus at the Bird Wikiproject..... Please get back to me with your response at my talk page......Pvmoutside (talk) 23:35, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Project birds' standardisation is in breach of WP:LOCALCONSENSUS since WP:COMMONNAME has more weight then the IOC's naming of birds. One move I did agree with was Western Grasswren to Thick-billed Grasswren, though Amytornis textilis maybe the way to go since both are common and a quick search seems to point to two subspecies (Advice to the Minister for the Environment and Heritage from the Threatened Species Scientific Committee (the Committee) on Amendments to the list of Threatened Species under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act 1999 (EPBC Act); see the National Context section of the pdf). I'm only keeping Australian birds with the common name. Bidgee (talk) 08:01, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

EPBC Act and associated publications have never been considered major ornithological authorities on names or taxonomy; in Australia or anywhere else for that matter. They are certainly major authorities on threatened status of Australian birds, but you'll be hard pressed to find significant external sources in fields beyond conservation that base their taxonomy/common names on the EPBC Act and associated publications. I'm puzzled by your move of the Black-faced Cuckooshrike, especially when you quote WP:COMMONNAME. A google search reveals about twice as many results for Black-faced Cuckooshrike vs. Black-faced Cuckoo-shrike, and beyond IOC there's a wide range of WP:RS sources that use the former, e.g. BirdLife International (which have their own taxonomic committee) and Sibley & Monroe (unfortunately our wiki list for Sibley and Monroe has apparently been modified, but they do use the unhyphenated). You have a far better case for the scrub-birds, which are Australian endemics (unlike cuckooshrikes, incl. Black-faced, which also occurs in the Solomons, New Guinea, East Timor and Indonesia; the last two countries have been forgotten in the wiki article, but C. n. lettiensis is endemic to Indonesia, and other races are regular winter visitors to both), where google search reveals a clear overweight of scrub-bird, and there are relatively few WP:RS sources beyond IOC that use scrubbird. Finally, the taxonomic claims for Amytornis textilis are out-of-date. Please see the following:

Black, A., L. Joseph, L. Pedler, and G. Carpenter (2010). A taxonomic framework for interpreting evolution within the Amytornis textilis-modestus complex of grasswrens. Emu 110(4): 358-363.

Christidis, L., F.E. Rheindt, W.E. Boles, and J.A. Norman (2010). Plumage patterns are good indicators of taxonomic diversity, but not of phylogenetic affinities, in Australian grasswrens Amytornis (Aves: Maluridae). Mol. Phylogenet. Evol. 57: 868-877.

In summary, they reveal that the two former "subspecies groups" actually are species. Consequently, the old Western/Thick-billed Grasswren (A. textilis) with several subspecies ceases to exist, and instead we get the Western Grasswren (A. textilis) and Thick-billed Grasswren (A. modestus). These names, by the way, make perfect sense because A. textilis is the one found most to the west (endemic to WA) and A. modestus is the one with the thickest bill. There evidently was a misunderstanding when this page was requested moved, quoting IOC. IOC are up-to-date and follow the split. Instead of a page move, the scientific names should have been modified and a new page for the second species should have been started, preferably quoting the above mentioned published evidence that show the older single-species taxonomy was invalid. 62.107.236.167 (talk) 08:58, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the Grasswren, I see there is some justification for a split. However, my sources still list both birds in the same species, whch is the reason I asked for a revert. If you' like to take the time to split them, feel free and reference your source.....Pvmoutside (talk) 21:34, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

I've not read the above comments, therefore I can't comment on them just yet. I'll try and read them sometime in the next few days after I return from my trip and once I've got a few things, in my personal life, that need to be done. Bidgee (talk) 11:35, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

CfD

Hey Bidgee. You might be interested in Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 February 21#Darwin, Northern Territory. Best, Jenks24 (talk) 04:32, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Apple store, Sydney from George Street page

The image I used on the George Street, Sydney page can be found here and has no copyright status and file-sharing and HTML code links, which I assume means the author approved sharing of the image, so can it be used on Wikipedia? Ashton 29 (talk) 11:27, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

The photo is automatically copyrighted. It doesn't need to have a tag for it to be copyrighted but for it to be a CC-BY photograph, it needs to be tagged as CC-BY. The photograph cannot be uploaded to any Wikimedia project, photo sharing and social media sites doesn't mean that the photograph is copyright free. Bidgee (talk) 11:31, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Well what if I contacted the user and asked for the copyright status? If he took it, and approves it to be used on here, what stops it? Ashton 29 (talk) 12:02, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Gemma Beadsworth

The DYK project (nominate) 10:52, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

  :D :D :D :D :D

Yay! :D --LauraHale (talk) 11:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

THE KITTEN LOVES YOU! :D

LauraHale (talk) 11:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Sophie Smith

The DYK project (nominate) 02:24, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

More awesome. :D

Australian women's water polo team takes test series against Great Britain is a Wikinews article that includes one of your pictures. :D I've also nominated the whole set of headshots for featured picture. I'm sure 100% TRUFAX some conclusion will be reached, whether pass, fail or you screwed up the formatting Laura! :D --LauraHale (talk) 20:49, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

March 2012 Move-to-Commons drive

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