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Namantar Andolan

Please will you not spam links and information about Namantar Andolan across articles where the connection is at best tenuous. You should also take time to read WP:CIRCULAR because much of your sourcing is inappropriate - we do not cite ourselves as a source for statements. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 13:07, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Sourcing

Hi Bhooshannpy. Thanks for your contributions to Namantar Andolan, it has a lot more detail because of your contributions. But, do take the time to read our guidelines on sourcing and verification at WP:RS and WP:V to make sure that the sources you're including are appropriate. Let me know if you have any questions and welcome to Wikipedia! --regentspark (comment) 15:09, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

I am sorry but I am becoming more and more concerned that you may be exhibiting bias at that article. The events were, doubtless, pretty horrific but you seem to be intent on emphasising this to the umpteenth degree and it is often not really adding much to the article. Furthermore, regardless of what one source may say, most people would not consider this to be a "revolution". The source that does say this is examining the issue specifically in the context of socialist/communuist rhetoric: it was a campaign, and a campaign that ultimately was part-won.

Out of interest, did the Dalits really just sit back and soak up all that punishment, responding only with a Long March? It seems pretty unlikely to me. - Sitush (talk) 12:48, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

This doesn't really do the job, although I realise that the comment was vague and apologise for that. Is there a source that says the violence extended throughout the state, rather than just being in the Marathwada region? And does it explain why something that seems only to relate to Marathwada should have impacted elsewhere? Omvedt seems not to do, nor does Dipankar. We probably should take these discussions to the article talk page but since you are not responding here even though you get a notice, I'm not sure that you are even aware of the article talk page, sorry. - Sitush (talk) 14:25, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Please, you cannot keep communicating through edit summaries alone. It makes life very difficult for other people. You've done a lot of good with that article but there are occasions when you are inserting content that, for example, simply is not needed - and you keep reinstating it when you are reverted. You have to discuss things if someone removes a statement that you have added - see WP:BRD. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 20:40, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Dear Sitush,I appreciate your editing, but I believe all the references clearly explain your answers. Please try to read it. I would welcome if you find something new to discuss with concerned subject. However your term bias is very shocking to me. Please read following points. (Each of the following points has reliable citation.)Bhooshannpy (talk) 13:34, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

• According to the sources the term Dalit means oppressed community. This community was oppressed for about 3 thousand years by upper caste Hindu communities. They were traditionally forced to continue their pathetic work for ages. British rule opened new doors for their survival by providing them education and jobs (for which they denied by Upper caste Hindu community). This has led to Dalit movements in India. However, British rule ended by 1947 and again they had to continue their same traditional works. Bhooshannpy (talk) 13:34, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

• For upper caste Hindus, renaming University after Dr Ambedkar’s name was against their old traditions. According to Vedic (Hindu) traditions education was not for lower caste people. So, obviously renaming university after any lower caste person was against their tradition. Hence, renaming university was revolution for Dalits according to few Commentators. Additionally, he rejected Hinduism because Hindu community denied basic human rights for lower caste community. Finally, his conversion brought radical social change in Dalit community. When Dalit’s were part of Hindu community they were denied for justice. The conversion of Dalits in Buddhism angered Upper caste Hindu. Bhooshannpy (talk) 13:34, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

• Dr Ambedkar was the first Dalit to study abroad and he was eminent scholar. He legally fought against Hindu caste for Dalit rights. He established few educational institutions in Maharashtara state. Marathwada region is massive region; this region had only one college for higher studies ie The Government college of Art & Science, Aurangabad (Established on 1923). This region was lacking in educational facilities so he established Milind College. He contributed towards other educational activities as well. Bhooshannpy (talk) 13:34, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

• As a result Dalit Panthers demanded Dr Ambedker’s name for the Marathwada University. Government accepted this demand but Upper caste continuously opposed this issue for 16 years. Basically Dalits community is socially and economically depressed. Majority of them were (landless) agriculture labourers so naturally they suffered when they demanded name of Dr Ambedkar. 19 people were killed, Dalit women were brutally raped etc – media was not with them (according to few resources media openly published against Dalits in newspapers), Security system (Police) in villages refused to accept their complains, they had no food and no water and above all ….political system kept on postponing issues for renaming. According to my observations no upper caste Hindu was killed or women were raped by Dalits. As an oppressed community Long March was only the way for them to demonstrate their demand. Bhooshannpy (talk) 13:34, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

• Various Commentators have commented about violence in various districts of parts Mahrashtra. Even 5 people died in Police repression at Nagpur. Pune, Mumbai, Amravati, Nashik, Nagpur etc --- these cities are not part of Marathwada but violence was observed.

  Again, Many thanks for your editing. Bhooshannpy (talk) 13:34, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

May 2013

Hi Bhooshannpy. I see you're contributing a lot of material to the Namantar Andolan article, much of it good. That's great. Please do try to discuss your changes on the article talk page, especially when they are reverted. When you reinstate your edits after someone else has reverted them, that could be construed as edit warring and you could be blocked for that and Wikipedia will be the loser. So, please, do use the article talk page. --regentspark (comment) 18:32, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Dear regentspark, I am new on Wikipedia ..so wasn’t much aware about talk page. Sorry about that…. But I have answered about my edits in edit summaries. I have explained my edits with clear references. I believe other editor need to read the references in details rather than passing vague comments. All above comments by other editor (with concerned to Namantar Andolan on my talk page) has been answered by me in edit summaries. I would welcome, if other editor finds something new to discuss. Many thanks. Bhooshannpy (talk) 13:39, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

That's great Bhooshannpy. Use the talk page. It is good to see more material on things that most India related editors don't seem to be interested in and you'll find that working collaboratively on articles will help create better articles. If you have a good source, challenge any editor who tries to remove the material to explain why they are removing it and if you're not satisfied with the response, take your case to a broader venue. WP:3O will be particularly useful for you but there are other places as well. The way Wikipedia works, getting people to agree with you is the best long term editing strategy.--regentspark (comment) 15:53, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Dear regentspark, many thanks for your advice and suggestions. Bhooshannpy (talk) 09:20, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

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Your revert on Bhaja caves

Hi Bhooshan, you have reverted my edits on Bhaja Caves sighting reasons that they are not Hindu caves. If you read my edits, they only mention the presence of Surya & Indra idols in Cave 18. I have not explicitly mentioned them to be Hindu caves anywhere in my edits, even though that would be a natural deduction. Either way, the edits are correct. - Ambar (talk) 10:15, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Dear Ambar, I am aware about Surya & Indra sculptures there. You will find Surya and Indra in Buddhist mythology as well. That does not make any firm support to conclude that they were 2nd century BC Hindu Temple. You tried to put them under "Category:2nd-century BC Hindu temples" and I reverted for that edit. Neither any source that you provided says that they were Hindu caves or something in second century. I hope you agree with me now.

Out of interest, do you take interest in caves ? Bhooshan NPY (talk) 10:44, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bhooshan, understand your point. However, you have also reverted my edits (not only categorisation into 2nd century BC). The text edits did not specify them to be Hindu or Buddhist in nature. So, those may be restored. To answer your question, my interest in ancient history bought me here, in an effort to classify & chronologically categorise ancient Indian monuments. - Ambar (talk) 20:02, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Dear Ambar, I have not come across any note stating 2nd century Hindu Temple for Bhaja caves. So, they can not be restored in that category. Could you produce reliable source for your claims? Even Archaeological survey of India and many more sources says it is Buddhist cave. (You may see the sources in citation section). I truly appreciate your efforts for categorizing ancient Indian monuments. Many thanks -----Bhooshan NPY (talk) 12:15, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bhooahan, I think you have misunderstood. I am not asking you to restore my edit relating to 2nd century Hindu temple. There was another paragraph added by me which did not mention anything about the place being a Hindu temple, & which you have reverted. I am asking you to reinstate that Para. -Ambar (talk) 06:24, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Your revert on 2013 Bodh Gaya blasts

Can you tell me why you revert my edit?....i have clearly stated that its just a statment by srilankan minister, pls go to that referance link and read it--Maransris (talk) 08:03, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

thanx :-)--Maransris (talk) 08:32, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Dear , Maransris, You're welcome. Media and Lankan Prime Mister got mixed. (May be you would have corrected there rather than deleting..) Anyways.. Thanks for correcting the error. -----Bhooshan NPY (talk) 08:43, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

its just a political game like this :http://www.dnaindia.com/india/1858598/report-is-narendra-modi-s-statement-linked-to-bodh-gaya-blasts-asks-digvijay-singh. however thanx for your edit..:)Maransris (talk) 09:01, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Any Political Party claiming over other is common. In that particular news Prime minister have claimed over militant organisation. I hope you have analysed the fact in you news and Here.Many thanks. -----Bhooshan NPY (talk) 09:47, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

July 2013

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, you may be blocked from editing. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:31, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

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Dear BracketBot, I have re fixed it. But it appears same. Could you fix it please? Many thanks-----Bhooshan NPY (talk) 08:47, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

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Citing

We do not cite primary sources when we have secondary sources. Please will you stop repeatedly inserting as here. - Sitush (talk) 12:14, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

The point you make here is already mentioned, along with the fact that he did not succeed in his aim. As I have said to you on umpteen past occasions, this article is not about your hero. Your sources may be of use at B. R. Ambedkar but are a sideshow at the Andolan article. How many more times? - Sitush (talk) 12:16, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

The point you make here is just adding to an already-long list of specific incidents. By all means add it but remove one that already exists otherwise the article becomes unwieldly. Please also note that even the sources that you use comment on how these incidents were localised and that not all areas were affected - something that does not really come across in the article as you have written it. - Sitush (talk) 12:19, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Dear Sitush,

This incident was very different from the other violence. Please read the citation, I am sure you will add something more to it. Why you deleted about migration? We dont have that point.

Many thanks for your advice and suggestions.----Bhooshan NPY (talk) 21:35, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

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