User talk:Beano ni

Welcome!

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Djegan 18:45, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Belfast WikiProject

As you have contributed to an article relating to Belfast, I hope you could take some time to read this page about our new project: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Belfast.

Thanks. --Mal 01:54, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology

Since you are interested in flags and emblems I would like to inform you that the WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology has just been created. Why not take a look? I hope you can join.Inge 20:12, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Historical references to City of Derry/Londonderry

Hi, sorry to drop this message onto your page but I'm trying to invoke a discussion on the WP:IMOS page as to what to use for the historical references to the city of Derry/Londonderry. I am trying to obtain a non-POV neutral discussion over what terminology to use for this or whether the IMOS as it stands should indeed cover this. Since you have been involved in discussions over Derry or County Londonderry and the likes in the past I thought you may like to get involved in the discussion. See the appropriate talk to get involved. Thank you for your time. Ben W Bell talk 16:22, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Northern Ireland

I am pretty annoyed about your edit - here, if you do not redress this issue and strike it out as per my reply then I will have no choice but to report you for a breach of WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL.--Vintagekits 10:38, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, I shouldn't have called you a liar when you may have just been speaking about a matter of which you were ignorant. The fact remains that what you said was inaccurate and you've since repeated it. beano 15:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you do not rectify and apologies the nI will report you - get your facts straight - UEFA and FIFA use the Ulster Banner, the GAA and the IFA do not!--Vintagekits 15:37, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Report me. You've no grounds on NPA anyway, Civil fair enough. I have rectified the accusation on the Talk NI page and I apologise for calling you a liar. You're still wrong though. The IFA fly the Northern Ireland Flag/Ulster Banner over Windsor Park at every international match. In Talk NI I have offered to photograph this in August. beano 15:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By the way it's obvious the GAA don't use it since they don't field any sides representing Northern Ireland so there is no reason to keep including them, I'm not disputing their non-use of the flag. beano 15:45, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The GAA is the largest sporting organisation in NI - they do not use the UB this goes to show that the "de facto" status is on a limited basis - with regards the IFA show me the UB on that!.--Vintagekits 15:51, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For the love of God, see Talk NI re: the website. The GAA do not recognise the state so they obviously don't use the flag. I appreciate what you're saying about limited use and accept that, but we're talking about symbols used to represent Northern Ireland so the GAA would need to have an a team and/or symbols representing Northern Ireland before they come within the scope of the conversation. beano 15:54, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Football AID 29 April - 6 May

Thank you for participating in the Football AID vote this week.

Northern Ireland national football team has been selected as this week's collaboration. Please do help in working to improve it.

BI template

Hi, first appologies - I rv'd your edit before seeing that (1) it was yours and (2) your edit comment. One of the reasons to keep it with proper names is that at least they are "outside" of Wikipedia. I, personally, don't think that possibility for confusion is too great: Ireland, in any meaning of the word, is a part of the British Isles. In this context, we are referring to the Republic, sure, but I think the pertinent appearance of United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland off-sets any chance that people could think that Northern Ireland is a part of the "Ireland" mentioned, or that that "Ireland" covers the whole island.

I think the greater good is served by just keeping with Ireland and UKGBNI - if an edit war breaks out over proper titles, we could end up with improper names being used used for both states: "Republic of Ireland" and "Britain" - surely that would be a worst case scenario for everyone, editors and readers alike, and the situation of Northern Ireland would be swallowed up in the whole ugly mess.

With regard to the IMOS - come on, this template appears on specifically Ireland-related pages, the British Isles itself is an Ireland-related subject etc. etc. --sony-youth^pléigh 11:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Those are all fair points, and I don't want to stir anything up, but we're not here to judge the rights or wrongs of the Republic being called "Ireland" (with regard to the article title, that's a well trodden road, as you know.) As for the IMOS, I think the British Isles are pretty squarely Ireland-related - and I don't see the room for confusion.

RE: "That's leaving aside the fact that it's downright insulting to those (nearly 2 million) of us who live outside your 'Ireland'." - I can understand, but you're more than welcome to join us, if you'd like [joking!]. --sony-youth^pléigh 15:42, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've made what I think is a compromise edit to the template. Is it okay? --sony-youth^pléigh 12:36, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That looks like a fine compromise to me. I wonder how long it will last! beano 15:05, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Northern Ireland templates

The Ulster Banner is not the flag of Northern Ireland and should not be used in templates unless they refer to the period of 1921-72.--padraig3uk 11:17, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Ulster Banner is the flag of Northern Ireland until such time as an agreed flag is created. beano 11:18, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong the Ulster Banner is the flag of Loyalists today, it ceased to be the flag of the Government of Northern Ireland in 1973, it was never the flag of Northern Ireland, to try and say otherwise is POV.--padraig3uk 11:21, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's recognising something which never had legal effect but had de facto status, as you well know. beano 11:22, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It dosen't have de facto status and never could as a large minority of the population of Northern Ireland don't recognise it and never will, it is the flag of one section of the population. I notice your promoting a new userbox, there is no campaign to remove the Ulster Banner from Wikipedia, the use of the flag in its proper context which is in articles dealing with the period 192-72 is fine, but using it to on articles or templates relationg to today or since 1973 is POV.--padraig3uk 12:07, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not POV. There is one and only one flag to represent Northern Ireland as distinct from Ireland or the UK. It's not like I'd cling on to the UB at all costs, in fact I'd support a new flag, but until we get one we must make do with what exists. Denying that the flag represents Northern Ireland is burying your head in the sand. beano 16:23, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The loonies are loose

You might want to check this out. --Mal 20:07, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Userboxes

Do you know how I would make them list horizontally and not vertically? They are getting a little out of hand!Traditional unionist 20:10, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

My comment on the flag of NI talk page wasn't aimed at you but Astrotrain who is edited warring across a number of articles and templates including this one but refuses to discuss these on the talk pages.--padraig3uk 23:38, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

POW's

Under British law Reliable neutral sourcethey were considered POW’s and about there being no war, Only now released under the Freedom of Information Act. http://www.patfinucanecentre.org/misc/opbanner.pdf . I think you are mistaken. Take care --Domer48 20:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Flagcruft

I see that padraig is now using WP:Flagcruft as the latest reasoning in the ongoing censorship campaign. I think this article needs some scrutiny, as it seems to have been written mostly by SMcCandlish who although seeming well intentioned seems to be extremely naive surrounding NI issues. Jonto

Northern Ireland national football team

Thanks for supplying the ref, I've edited the text a bit, as you seem to know more about this than me, could you check it. Thanks 86.12.249.63 18:17, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy

Hi there, I take it you didn't want an admin to come along and delete your used page ;)? For some reason your userbox link was transcluding to the speedy deletion page for your page to be deleted, I saw your edit summary about someone removing it previously so I've just commented it out for now. Any probs don't hesitate to give me a shout. ^Khukri 11:01, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Deleted User Box

Hi Beano ni. The phrasing has changed from the word "campaign" to the word "effort". I have reviewed the MFD and I agree that a lot of editors felt that the "campaign" part was a particular concern. However editors also felt that the box was divisive, not helpfull in terms of collaboration, and was not in the spirit of various policies particularly WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL. I'm afraid that by changing to "effort" from "campaign" this is still within the spirit of the concerns at the MFD. Accordingly I am not going to restore it. Sorry. If you would like an uninvolved admin to review this deicision please ask me. Pedro : Chat 11:38, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I'll have to take it to WP:ANI to get another pair of eyes as I'm not sure who's online at the mo. Pedro : Chat 11:48, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have made a request at WP:ANI which you can see here. Thanks. Pedro : Chat 11:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid the consensus at this thread was to endorse the deletion of the user box. Best wishes. Pedro : Chat 14:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of Northern Ireland

Talk page, please .... I've protected it for 24 hours to stop any sort of editwar breaking out. BLACKKITE 19:52, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Northern Ireland

Hi,

I'd like to take the opportunity to advise you on two matters which, being a member or former member of the Northern Ireland WikiProject or it's sister project on Belfast, you might be interested in the following submission about a recent terrorist attack Wikipedia:Northern Irish Wikipedians' notice board#News.

I'd also like to take this opportunity to ask for your help in reviving the Northern Ireland WikiProject. Given that there are only a small number of Wikipedians from Northern Ireland or interested specifically in the region, the project needs all the help it can get.

Cheers, --Setanta747 (talk) 13:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Good to see you editing. Stick around, we need some sense around here.Traditional unionist (talk) 14:48, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rename on sister project?

I Beano ni. I was usurping usernames for my SUL login, and I hit a snag. It appears that you are in control of an account named Beano in the Wikimedia Commons. The bureaucrat on the site would like to know if we can change your username on that site from Beano to Beano ni, like the one here. This will allow both of us to use SUL, as well as eliminate confusion people would have distinguishing your account and mine. If you could let me know either way, that would be great. If you accept, the login would be changed within a few hours and all you would need to do is just login with your same password and just type the new name in. Your talkpages, contributions, and edits would not be lost. They would carry over to the new named account. Thanks. ~Beano~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:59, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom elections are now open!

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