User talk:Bdb484/Archive 2009

Moving pages

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently tried to give Lorain County Metroparks a different title by copying its content and pasting it into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut and paste move", and it is considered undesirable because it splits the page historywhich is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is four days and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other articles that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you. - Eureka Lott 15:00, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Namespace vio

I have moved Bdb484:The Buckeye Institute to User:Bdb484/sandbox. (I did not copy&paste!) Make sure that you establish the notability of the Institute before you post to the (Article) namespace. (A copy&paste would actually be permissible for that posting.) —RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 20:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't sure where that was supposed to go. Thanks.Bdb484 (talk) 23:29, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

College Hill

Hi! Thanks for the notice on College Hill. Mvincec (talk) 15:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Eagles fans

Hey, Tom.

I'm going to submit a request for a third opinion on the Eagles fans situation. I just put up my take on it, and I thought I'd let you know about it before I put the request in. —Bdb484 (talk) 03:34, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. Hopefully even more editors than that can take a look and help out. --Tom 13:30, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Talk Pages and Vandalism

You continue to leave me messages with regards to vandalism of talk pages. I fail to understand, however, how I can vandalize my own talk page. Moreover, (and you would have no way of knowing this, which I understand) I am Williston_K, but frequently neglect to sign in. I'm new to WP, so if I am not following protocol, I apologize, but I would appreciate it if the "warnings" stopped. Thank you.--71.60.106.168 (talk) 13:22, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for checking in. You need to stop pulling down warnings from the talk page, which creates the appearance that you're trying to hide your editing record. —Bdb484 (talk) 17:44, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would like my record cleaned, to be honest. I do not like the appearance of being a vandal when all I have done is make edits to pages that are my own. --71.60.106.168 (talk) 23:29, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Mangini

I saw your edits involving Eric Mangini, and feel like that personal life information is pertinent (and sourceable, although it wasn't at the time). I think it makes sense to remove the adjective "renowned" before sports agent, but was curious as to your rationale for removing it. J. Matthew Bailey (talk) 23:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for asking. I agree that the information is worth including. The only reason I took it out was that it was included again two paragraphs down, with citations. —Bdb484 (talk) 03:15, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation. I didn't see that the information was duplicated upon first looking at the page, and appreciate you removing it. J. Matthew Bailey (talk) 05:36, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:The Buckeye Institute logo.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:The Buckeye Institute logo.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Ricky81682 (talk) 03:17, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Patrick Pogan

An article that you have been involved in editing, Patrick Pogan, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patrick Pogan. Thank you.

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Added info from article into conflict article's subsection. Take a look and tinker with it. Notes are in the discussion page Cptnono (talk) 21:08, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of notable alumni sections on NFL team pages

Was there any discussion of removing these sections from so many articles? Those are some large sections that have existed for a long time and worked on by a lot of people. There should be some discussion before such a wholesale change. —Wrathchild ^(talk) 14:11, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

KillerChihuahua misapplies the rules on edit warring

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Alan Keyes. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may beblocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. KillerChihuahua^?!? 15:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

:HOW DARE YOU LAUNCH AN UNSUBSTANTIATED PERSONAL ATTACK ON ME?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?!?!!?!?! THIS IS HARASSMENT!!?!?!?!?!?!! I WILL BE NOTIFYING YOU TO THE APPROPRIATE AUTHORITIES?!?!?!!??!!!?!?!? lolz. — Bdb484 (talk) 16:48, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have temporarily blocked you, for 24 hours (initially 1 week, but I reduced it) for disruptive editing. The above really does not help. Please stop.rootology (C)(T) 17:04, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Right. I'm not sure that's disruptive, but I'm not an admin. I was blocked moments before I could post this to KC's talk page, so here it is:

I'm not going to be striking it in this hour, but I will put it back where I put it originally. I'm sure no one meant to make it appear that I had created a section called "paranoid and unhinged."

How about this: I apologize for my incivility. I respectfully request that KC exercise some restraint in making accusations of personal attacks. Some may be well-founded; others clearly are not. Either way, a user with experience as broad and deep as hers should know by now that trotting out those accusations at the first available moment is contrary to AGF (even if it's not a suicide pact), and that it reliably derails civil discussion. It needs to stop.

— Bdb484 (talk) 17:08, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

The block is unnecessary because the above edit was not disruptive. KillerChihuahua warned me -- presumably in good faith -- that I was edit warring, which was not the case because I was in fact reverting the work of an IP vandal. My response was perhaps over-the-top, but was clearly in jest and not in violation of any policy. Further, I resolve not to type in all caps anymore, because we all know that's really annoying.

Decline reason:

procedural decline: Your block has expired already :). -- Luk ^talk 07:09, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Aladdin's Eatery

A tag has been placed on Aladdin's Eatery requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company or corporation, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for companies and corporations.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note onthe talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contactone of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. KuroiShiroi (contribs) 03:01, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for deletion nomination of Aladdin's Eatery

I have nominated Aladdin's Eatery, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aladdin's Eatery. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

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May 2009

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Augusta County, Virginia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Aladdin's Eatery

On May 25, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the articleAladdin's Eatery, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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"Ctrl-click"

I'm not sure how that happens. It might be that certain sidebar shortcuts (such as the buttons above and below the edit boxes) will simulate button actions, and (I think) every keyboard action is identified by a name in the operating system, and somewhere along the road, this happens. It's beyond me. Leo-Roy! ^review/gb 17:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

wikEd problem: Ctrl-click

Hi Bdb484,

there seems to be a problem with the gadget wikEd that caused the insertion of "Ctrl-click" in your recent edit to Augusta County. Please could you help me locate this problem by reporting your browser name and version and possible other gadgets that you might have checked (under My Preferences - Gadgets) on User talk:Cacycle/wikEd#Very odd Ctrl-click issue.

Thanks in advance, Cacycle (talk) 19:21, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: To Market, To Market

Thanks for the good wishes. There's some serious paring down that would do Wikipedia well, especially with the ability to set up a dedicated Wiki and transfer the piles and piles of articles on over in a few hours. I'll try to fire at the other seasons over the next day or so, and I'll try firing at some other shows as well once I'm done with MASH (and I'll try to keep Law & Order in mind for that).Tyrenon (talk) 08:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edits on Danny Gokey

Your edits to the above article, which added unsourced non-neutral content to the article, have been reverted. Please refrain from adding such content to biographies of living persons. Unitanode 20:09, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Let's take this to the talk page. — Bdb484 (talk) 21:23, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lions

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Comment on my talk

I have no anti-Federer agenda at all. Federer has never won a singles Gold Medal. The four majors noted as part of the golden slam are singles, as the gold medal should be. And that other IP may appear to you to have something to do with me, but it doesn't at all. Premium clown.88.110.69.31 (talk) 01:53, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bonnyrigg White Eagles

Hi mate. Just wondering why you removed the sections of notable former players and managers from the article. Most if not football club articles have a section like that and all of the players mentioned I believe would fall under the notable persons criteria as well as being sourced adequately on their individual pages. I'm a bit of a noob so I'm just trying to understand it. Thanks. batobatobato (talk) 02:53, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. The edits you're talking about are an extension of my work on the pages of the various American football teams, where the "notable players" sections were also very common. There are several reasons that these sections come down:

they are arbitrary lists with no objective criteria for inclusion, essentially a list of Wikipedia editors' favorite players;
they are unsourced; and
they constitute original research, as players are included because editors — not reliable sources —find them notable.

In these cases, the criteria for being included as a "notable player" is different from the notability criteria that would allow a player to have his own article. Playing at the professional level is typically enough to warrant a BLP, but that can't be the standard for "notable player" on a team's page because every player in the team's history would then be included. That leaves the reader with a list that is overwhelming and completely uninformative. Instead, we need to narrow the list down to present players whose careers with the team were notable in their own right.

For a good example of how the "notable player" lists can be managed, see the Baltimore Ravens orNew England Patriots pages, which have several categories of players listed as notable, but with specific criteria that is independent of WP editors' judgment. — Bdb484 (talk) 03:57, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

TB

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Talk:Public image of Sarah Palin

You're right, it isn't linkspam; that was a typo on my part. But I opened a thread at Talk:Public image of Sarah Palin to discuss. —HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 22:22, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

TB2

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Black or White

Ok thanks --Jay(Talk) 04:13, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Falco

What do you mean consensus version? - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 23:57, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I mean the version that had been intact for over a month. Beyond being the consensus version, the previous version -- as I mentioned in the edit summary -- had additional wikilinking, links to the correct pages instead of redirects, and used reliable sources instead of Futon Critic's press releases. Additionally, your revert restored minor grammar errors. The only thing that I can see that it added was one source, which I hadn't noticed the first time around and will restore myself. — Bdb484 (talk) 00:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine. Their was an attempt to delete the article a while back, so I just wanted to keep as many sources as possible in it to forestall any more deletion attempts. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 00:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question about an edit summary

I noticed this edit summary at theAmerican Idol (season 8) page. I understand well how frustrating dealing with unhelpful IP changes can be, but [doesn't] calling it "IP incompetence" seems rather counterproductive? Unitanode 15:24, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My bad. What's your question? — Bdb484 (talk) 15:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My last sentence should have been phrased as a question, rather than a statement. The first two words of your post basically answered the question I forgot to phrase as such. Unitanode 15:31, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Goblet drum

Hi there bdb484. Can you please tell me why you insist on removing the references from the goblet drumming page? I dont understand your logic. Please communicate prior to removing them again. They are 'references' to help people learn more about the drum. There was alot of very useful one there before you deleted them all for some reason. PLease just communicate. pacerman265 —Precedingunsignedcomment added by Pacerman265 (talk •contribs) 02:40, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Lambert straw poll on including/removing "Order #" and "Results" columns from the performances section

Hi, this may seem rather trivial but I'm trying to gauge community consensus on including or removing "Order #" and "Results" columns from the performances section on the Adam Lambert article which you have been in some way recently involved. The poll is here. Your time is appreciated. -- Banjeboi 21:30, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Melt Bar and Grilled

Hi Bdb484. Please note that User:CS46 tagged the article with a {{db-spam}} tag right before I deleted your article. CS46 should have left a message on your talk page but presumably, they must have forgotten to. I will provide you with a copy of the deleted text below but I suggest that you discuss the rationale behind the G11 tag with User:CS46. Perhaps you may be able to work out some changes for the article.

'''Melt Bar and Grilled''' is a restaurant in [[Lakewood, Ohio]], that specializes in creative grilled cheese sandwiches.<ref>[http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/2008-07-24-grilled-cheese_N.htm Grilled cheese vies to be the greatest thing on sliced bread]</ref> They are owned and operated under the vision of Matt Fish, who is also the Executive Chef. <ref>[http://www.wkyc.com/life/programming/shows/goodcompany/gc_article.aspx?storyid=117647 Matt Fish: In the Kitchen with Melt Bar & Grilled]</ref> They are currently located at 14718 Detroit Avenue in Lakewood.<ref>[http://www.meltbarandgrilled.com/directions.html Directions to Melt Bar & Grilled]</ref>, with plans to open a second location in Cleveland Heights in the near future. <ref>[http://www.cleveland.com/taste/index.ssf/2009/08/melt_bar_and_grilled_opening_d.html Melt Bar and Grilled opening delayed]</ref> ==References== {{reflist}} ==External links== [http://www.meltbarandgrilled.com Melt Bar and Grilled] {{Template:US-restaurant-stub}} [[Category:Restaurants in the United States]] [[Category:Restaurants in Ohio]] [[Category:Companies based in Ohio]] -FASTILY ^(TALK) 00:06, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done - see here -FASTILY ^(TALK) 00:13, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HELLO Bdb484! =] - Megan Joy

Hello! So i see that you removed some info i added on Megan Joy's wikipedia page. Although it was all true, i forgot to add them damn references as proof as you said there wasn't enough! crap! so if you don't mind, imma add them back and try to put as much references as i can find as proof. :D Like from trusted blogs like mjsbigblog.com and idolstalker.com and such

Unfortunately though a screenshot IS NOT CONSIDERED PROOF for megan's youtube audition video reaching 1 million views. D: But i don't know why though! What a bummer! D:< I will try to find another reference hopefully.

luckily i was able to take a screenshot of the video before it was deleted, but i like i said its not considered as proof. :\

screenshot: http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/homezfoo/Joy_audition_video_screenshot_delet.jpg and i don't think its liable to be in the references list :[

I'm trying to add as much information on Megan Joy's american idol section on her wikipedia page as much as Allison Irahetas' has. Just so her fans and other people could know more about Megan and her idol journey. I'm also gonna re-add the things you deleted in her personal life and post idol career section with more references as well so people could know what Joy is currently doing now.

Reply back please on my talk page or however you like. Curious to know what you think. THANKS! --Homezfoo (talk) 08:40, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Generation Articles

Bdb484: I noticed that you’ve had an interest in Generation Jones in the past. Over the last few months, a couple of Wikipedia users have gone to great lengths to try to minimize the presence of GenJones on Wikipedia. I am now back on the site and will carefully help to maintain an accurate representation of GenJones for Wikipedia readers. I message you to ask you to please, if you are interested, to also try to keep an eye on the generation article pages to make whatever edits you feel will be helpful in representing these topics accurately to Wikipedia readers. Thanks.TreadingWater (talk) 00:01, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Melt Bar and Grilled

A tag has been placed on Melt Bar and Grilled requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for organizations and companies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see theArticle Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note onthe talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contactone of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. ttonyb (talk) 05:02, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Badagnani

Good job on keeping a cool head with Badagnani. He's been blocked for this exact same behavior. If he continues in a disruptive way, he should be blocked again. --Ronz (talk) 17:07, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jamil

I'm willing to admit I may be wrong; I've taken it to Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2009 December 2 for further discussion by folks who follow copyright issues closely. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Parkour in popular culture

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User:Bdb484/Melt Bar and Grilled

While you're working on this and its sister User:Bdb484/Melt Bar And Grilled in User space, would you please remove the categories,add a colon before them, as in [[:Category:Restaurants in the United States]], or enclose them in comment marks or nowiki markup so that they don't show up in the Categories? Thanks, . . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk •contribs) 16:10, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. — Bdb484 (talk) 18:15, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RfD nomination of Worms Jerusalem Football Club

RfD nomination of Talk:Worms Jerusalem Volleyball Club

I have nominated Talk:Worms Jerusalem Volleyball Club (edit | article | history | links | watch | logs) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Bdb484 (talk) 06:40, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

MetroStar

You are right about the constraints (many self-imposed) on action at AIV. You might want to go to AN/I and make a full report ... some admin is likely to be on the watch, and with a fuller account of the misconduct there it won't be subject to the restrictions of AIV. Daniel Case(talk) 06:47, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aris Thessaloniki F.C.

you moved the talk page of aris fc to the main article... :P because that worms jerusalem article fc contained the talk page, not the main page... go fix it somehow? Heracletus (talk) 10:57, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]