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2018 is shaping up well
Hoo boy. So, after entering - nay, dominating - the debate 3 times, you announce that the debate should never have happened. I trust you were addressing that remark to your good self, good sir. These publicly released entries from your private diary make fascinating reading. You ought to consider publishing all of them. Happy days. :) -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 17:51, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- In a sense, I already have. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:28, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
Trolling
I am not a troll. JungleBook11231 (talk) 01:56, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
Reported.
Reported. Dwest25 (talk) 23:49, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
- Reported what? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:51, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
About the Nazi Troll
User:Brandon 3233 doesn't seem to fit the modus operandi of the Nazi Refdesk troll. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayron ' s alternate account (talk • contribs) 00:57, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
- Note: The above was an impersonator. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:11, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Brandon3233 / Ref Desk Troll
Noticed your report on AIV regarding the above account. Don't have time to look into this in detail right now, but is there an LTA page to go over the usual behaviour of this individual to make it easier for administrators to verify for themselves whether an account is actually being operated by this person? I know that some feel that creating such pages is "giving in" to long term vandals, but I think that anything that helps in identifying and despatching the accounts of unusually persistent delinquents like this more quickly is of value to the project. Such a page could then be linked to in the AIV report to give administrators not familiar with the pattern guidance in what to do. Lankiveil (speak to me) 01:03, 8 January 2018 (UTC).
- This LTA is Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Ref Desk Antisemitic Troll there is a slight chance that it is Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Vote (X) for Change but the question makes the first more likely. MarnetteD|Talk 01:14, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
- Messed up the ping so here is a new one Lankiveil. Creating a sock using Jayron's name was a twist that I hadn't seen before. MarnetteD|Talk 01:16, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
- @MarnetteD: Ah, good to see someone is ahead of me! I suggest linking to this then when reporting this individual at AIV, just to give a little more context, and to head off any potential questions. Lankiveil (speak to me) 01:36, 8 January 2018 (UTC).
- Messed up the ping so here is a new one Lankiveil. Creating a sock using Jayron's name was a twist that I hadn't seen before. MarnetteD|Talk 01:16, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Sorry
([1]) --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 09:50, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
- Understood. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:08, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Precious
Church of Baseball
Thank you for quality articles around baseball such as countless lists of baseball parks in towns, illustrated, for even more redirects, for service from 2007, for "I am perfectly happy with better writers improving on my writing style", for adding advice and the salt of humor, - repeating (25 September 2009): you are an awesome Wikipedian!
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:30, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
January 2018
If you even so much as hint at the kind of PA [2] you did here, again, I'll fight my last breath to see you blocked. Take that as a warning. CassiantoTalk 00:35, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
- That's not a personal attack. If you took it personally, you must have a guilty conscience. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:55, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Co-sign on my ArbCom request
Would you consent have your name on as a co-plaintiff in my ArbCom request against Cassianto? It would help the case. --Volvlogia (talk) 02:26, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
- Nevermind regarding that, I decided to file it on my own, but you're welcome to make a statement. --Volvlogia (talk) 02:45, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case
Olive branch?
I was pondering the recent disagreements we have had, mostly regarding the reference desks which I finally decided to unsubscribe from so I won't see any of the disputes between participants and be tempted to weigh in (I may still occasionally answer or ask a question in the computer area, but I am now trying to avoid any drama by withdrawing when I see it starting.)
I remember that previously we had a pretty collegial relationship and were able to work together on various pages, and in general I respect your attitude and ability. So I would like to extend an olive branch and ask that we both make a fresh start.
I am a high-functioning autistic (Asperger's, diagnosed by a qualified M.D., not self-diagnosed as many are), so you may see me purposely withdrawing from conflict when my brain is telling me "just post another paragraph and they will see the light" despite abundant evidence that that is not going to happen. Please try to understand why I might do this. It isn't personal.
So, peace treaty? Or maybe we should just have a dance fight like they did in West Side Story?[3] :) --Guy Macon (talk) 22:37, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
- I'm in. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:39, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Civility in infobox discussions case opened
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FYI
Hello BB. I suspect you've seen the newsreel footage from game one of the 1919 World Series. The story of the serendipitous recovery of that footage, in 1978 in Dawson City, is told in Dawson City: Frozen Time. I found it a fascinating documentary so I thought I would make you aware of it. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 20:34, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
New Page Reviewing
Hello, Baseball Bugs.
I've seen you editing recently and you seem like an experienced Wikipedia editor. |
Happy 90th
Hello BB. On Tom's 90th birthday I thought I'd leave you this version of The Elements (song) to celebrate. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 17:34, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
No I won't
When you say highly offensive things about people for no reason, I will not take a chill pill. Your behaviour in that discussion is highly disgusting! If you have a dispute with Cullen328 you take it up with them. You don't bring other people into it for no reason. As long as you continue behave in such a highly offensive manner, I will continue to call you out on it. Nil Einne (talk) 04:09, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
- I don't follow. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:26, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Reference desks
Why don't we all have a cup of tea or some other nice beverage and move on? I supported closing down the reference desks but the community disagreed. But there is consensus that "ref desk regulars" should provide answers based on links to Wikipedia articles or relevant external links. So, Bugs, please avoid speculative or flip comments at the ref desks and all will be well. Thank you. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:46, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
- Jolly good. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:51, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Edit count: Pie chart
I peeked at your pie chart & have figured out why you're currently in trouble. Nearly over 47% of your edits are to RefDesk/AN/ANI type pages & merely (less then) 16% of your edits are to 'main space'. Basically, you're showing up 'too often' at 'too many' discussions & it's apparently annoying many editors, while doing very little to actual article editing. Personally, I don't mind this. But, if you want to get the others off of your back? then it's best to begin tipping the percentage in opposite directions. BTW: I was once a talkpage junkie, myself. GoodDay (talk) 14:06, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- Actually, when I got myself in real trouble in the past, it was from defending political articles from vandals. I don't do that anymore. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:10, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Closed AN/I
Hi Baseball Bugs. I closed the AN/I discussion about you. As per your own suggestion, I believe there is a consensus that you should be banned from editing AN and AN/I. You are permitted to open a section if you need to or to respond if someone opens a section about you. Per usual practice, you may appeal in six months if you wish. Best regards, --John (talk) 16:05, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- I almost never edit AN, and I can live without AN/I. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:50, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
11 years of editing on this account plus two more on your previous account
Invitation to join the Ten Year Society
Dear Baseball Bugs/Archive022,
I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Ten Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for ten years or more.
Best regards, Chris Troutman (talk) 22:14, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
- It's not really a cause for celebration. The section immediately below is the kind of thing I've had to put up with for many years here. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:46, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
Bull Durham
Knock it off. I mean it. Knock it off! Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:09, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
- Knock what off? I pointed out that it's not in the list of Papal Bulls. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:38, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
- Your comment at the Reference Desk was bull, as is your response here, and you know it. Stop that behavior. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:41, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
- I lined out the small-print part that got you upset, though I suspicion that you don't even understand the play on words. I let stand the true fact that the item in question does not appear in the list. Unless you have a problem with that too. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:44, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
- Your comment at the Reference Desk was bull, as is your response here, and you know it. Stop that behavior. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:41, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
Tea?
I'm back... Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 19:36, 28 May 2018 (UTC) |
- Let the bells ring out ! SlightSmile 21:07, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
- Whatever became of you? A three year vacation??? :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:55, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
Ref Desk
I just happened to land on Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Language] checking a new user's edits and was surprised to note your "contributions" from May 27-May 31 range from downright stupid to completely confusing. Please stop posting stupid misleading unresearched "answers" based on whatever nonsense pops into your head. You might remember we had a serious discussion about banning you from the Ref desk recently. Based on my quick review of this portion of Ref desk over the visable questions I see that proposed ban is well justified. Remember we are here to build an encyclopedia - find something useful to do in mainspace. Legacypac (talk) 11:58, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- You need to clean up your own act first. Meanwhile, I don't know what you're specifically talking about. Post diffs here, if you have any. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:01, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- 1. don't make your talkpage 3 clicks away to find. That's annoying. 2. I posted a diff to a page and described my concerns with your participation. 3. You clearly don't get the problem and suggesting an iban between us is just as off topic as your ref desk participation. Legacypac (talk) 21:27, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- I saw the link to the Language page. I don't know what you're specifically objecting to. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:31, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Reread my comments about your controbutions - that sou can't see the problem is exactly why you don't belong there. Legacypac (talk) 21:45, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- I read your comments. They're off-base. Tell me a specific thing you object to, or don't come back here again. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:50, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Reread my comments about your controbutions - that sou can't see the problem is exactly why you don't belong there. Legacypac (talk) 21:45, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- I saw the link to the Language page. I don't know what you're specifically objecting to. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:31, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- 1. don't make your talkpage 3 clicks away to find. That's annoying. 2. I posted a diff to a page and described my concerns with your participation. 3. You clearly don't get the problem and suggesting an iban between us is just as off topic as your ref desk participation. Legacypac (talk) 21:27, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Since you can't understand I've raised this at ANi [4]. You have now been notified. I'm off to do something more interesting to improve mainspace. Legacypac (talk) 22:05, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the hit-and-run. ANI is off my radar and I intend to keep it that way. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:06, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Deny
Why would you delete an answer one of us posted with the note WP:DENY? My understanding, though I am in no way a Wikipedia expert, is that WP:DENY is used to remove answers given by banned users. I don't think that anyone here has been banned. If so, I don't think that they would be answering questions. 209.149.113.5 (talk) 11:19, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- I'll tell you why. It is because that idiot Baseball Bugs, is acting like a MORON, that's why! 216.137.253.253 (talk) 01:30, 25 June 2018 (UTC) ... 2600:100f:b014:d0cb:3c2c:16be:e771:5639 (talk · contribs) 03:03, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
- Well, that's a couple of steps up. Try it yourself sometime. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:12, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
What’s your diagnosis for Lashay?
See here. Count Iblis (talk) 23:22, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- Maybe she was a cow in a prior life? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:40, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- Maybe it's the shadow monster. SlightSmile 19:49, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
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I'm glad
I'm glad that I was able to fix that Roe v. Wade typo for you at the Wikipedia Reference Desk! :) Futurist110 (talk) 06:03, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Arc
Is that arc like Noah's arc? And if so the is it biblical Noah or another Noah? It's the heat, it's freezing my brain. SlightSmile 17:42, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
- It's a bit of both. The question is, "Where did Noah keep the bees?" The answer is, "In the arc-hive." ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:45, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
- Did he have a whole colony or just a boy bee and a girl bee like he did with the other animals? SlightSmile 19:05, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
- He tried to smuggle a whole bunch of bees aboard, but he was caught in a sting. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:44, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
- Perhaps there was only a half-a-bee named Eric. MarnetteD|Talk 01:34, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- He tried to smuggle a whole bunch of bees aboard, but he was caught in a sting. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:44, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
- Did he have a whole colony or just a boy bee and a girl bee like he did with the other animals? SlightSmile 19:05, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Simple discussions
As I said on the RDS, if you are unable to understand simple discussions, I urge you to stay away from the RDS as a responder. It is very difficult to contribute productively when your ability to understand simple discussions is so limited. I'm not sure why your ability is so weak, since as I said it's clearly not an English problem. It's your choice if you want to do something about it, but it may be worth considering since it seems likely something that would make life hard in general.. Nil Einne (talk) 10:55, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah Bugs. What the hell's wrong with you! SlightSmile 11:13, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Sometimes I insist on clarity. It's a simple weakness. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:15, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Well then maybe you can clarify how invisible people can see with their invisible eyes. SlightSmile 16:25, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- I'll explain that after you tell me how many angels can dance on the head of a PIN. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:18, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Where did I used to hear that. I don't even remember what the point of that … okay I got it here. I would read it but there's too many words and they're not even in alphabetical order. Here's some elves dancing if you like. SlightSmile 17:55, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Got it - metaphor for wasting time debating topics of no practical value. SlightSmile 18:10, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- I'll explain that after you tell me how many angels can dance on the head of a PIN. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:18, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Well then maybe you can clarify how invisible people can see with their invisible eyes. SlightSmile 16:25, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Sometimes I insist on clarity. It's a simple weakness. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:15, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
DroneB
Remind you of anyone? A prolific and argumentative RD editor who suddenly stopped contributing? Well, you know what I think. --Viennese Waltz 21:20, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
- I'm skeptical. But I'll keep a watch on things. The user's first edit was April 16. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:28, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
- Clearly not a brand new user, though, given his evident familiarity with WP policies and procedures. --Viennese Waltz 07:20, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Buddy Ebsen revert
Well, the first reason I rolled your edit back was because the sentence didn't make sense. The first word of the sentence should not have been "I". Go back and look. The second reason was because it was just trivia. Whether Ebsen outlived other members of the cast of a movie is unimportant in the larger scheme of a persons life. The third reason I rolled your edit back was because the nonsensical statement isn't referenced. Cuprum17 (talk) 18:39, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | ||
Your responses to a request to identify a photographer at the Humanities Reference Desk are flat-out amazing. You have my eternal admiration, and this barnstar. › Mortee talk 15:27, 16 August 2018 (UTC) |
- Thank you! And it goes to show that even a blind squirrel finds an acorn sometimes. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:35, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Ref. Desk Trolling
Reported. 24.111.133.85 (talk) 03:01, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for bringing up the sad news on Medeis on the RD. I think it was something that many of us missed. Nil Einne (talk) 21:12, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
My post regarding silicone temperature
Please do not remove my post again. If you want to discuss the legitmacy of it then please do so here or on my talk page or even under the post. It is not reasonable to have to try to communicate in edit summaries. I notice wp:deny discusses a way to deal with trolling but it's only one person's accussation that I'm trolling rather than trying to find an answer to a legitimate question. You should also be familiar with Wikipedia's policy on assuming good faith. 185.230.100.66 (talk) 10:19, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- Just stop trolling. You asked what the melting point of silicone is, got an answer, then proceeded to asked what the melting point of silicone is again in a new section. Three editors have reverted your trolling already.
- There once was a drunk driver who was driving the wrong way on the freeway. Upon hearing on the radio (over the honking horns) that there was a drunk driver who was driving the wrong way on the freeway, he peered through his windshield, noticed all of the headlights heading toward him, and exclaimed "My God! There are DOZENS of them!!" --Guy Macon (talk) 10:46, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- At what point did you determine I was a troll, Guy Macon? Was it because I asked the second question in a different section (immediate contravention of WP:GF because I hadn't even been confronted at that point) or are you actually just trying to leverage the fact that I'm pushing back against your bullying to make out like I'm actually the one trolling? I never once asked what the melting point of silicone is. If you yourself read the anwser (the one made by the guy who actually seemed to know what he was talking about) silicone doesn't melt; it burns when it gets too hot. Regardless how many of you rally to support each other in this, last time I checked Wikipedia isn't subject to the tyranny of the majority and the policy of assuming good faith (as opposed to immediately calling me a troll over and over) will hopefully prevail. 185.230.100.66 (talk) 11:42, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- King Arthur: I am your king.
- Peasant Woman: Well, I didn't vote for you.
- King Arthur: You don't vote for kings.
- Peasant Woman: Well, how'd you become king, then?
- [Angelic music plays...]
- King Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am your king.
- Dennis: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
- Arthur: Be quiet!
- Dennis: You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
- Arthur: Shut up!
- Dennis: I mean, if I went around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!
- Arthur: [grabs Dennis] Shut up! Will you shut up?!
- Dennis: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system!
- Arthur: [shakes Dennis] Shut up!
- Dennis: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm being repressed!
- Arthur: Bloody Peasant!
- Dennis: Ooh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you?
- Source: [5]
- --Guy Macon (talk) 16:28, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- It honestly looks like you are the one who is trolling me. If you're not going to address what I've said directly then I don't think there's any point trying to reason with you any more. 185.230.100.66 (talk) 19:36, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- --Guy Macon (talk) 16:28, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
A barnstar for you
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | ||
For your diligence and helping out at the refdesk.—Mythdon (talk • contribs) 07:01, 28 October 2018 (UTC) |
Not the Nazi Refdesk troll
The person known as 'ADolph was right' is not me but somebody else. The last time I showed up at the Refdesks was more than 3 months ago. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.12.45.187 (talk) 23:22, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- Under what user ID? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 15:38, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Nonsense on your Unprotected Talk Page
I'm very confused as to what the hell is going on over there- to the point I'm debating if I should just Remove them all? Geartooth Friendship is Magic! 12:28, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
- Never Mind, it appears it has been removed. Still a bit baffled. Geartooth Friendship is Magic! 12:31, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Deletion
I'm no fan of Vote (X) for Change, but he had a point here. Why did you make this edit? Would you still have deleted it if it had been in French or German? --Viennese Waltz 15:47, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- VW please see WP:BMB. Vote X's edits are reverted by those of us who see them no matter what language they are in. MarnetteD|Talk 15:57, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Sigh, I wish you'd read my post properly. I know Vote X's edits very well, and if you'd bothered to check my edit history you would have seen that I've reverted dozens of them myself. I'm asking BB why he reverted this edit, which was not by Vote X. --Viennese Waltz 16:02, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Can you provide an exact translation of the Arabic question? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:07, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I did read it VW. It clearly says "I'm no fan of Vote (X) for Change, but he had a point here". No where do you state that the post linked to was made by someone other than Vote X. I'm not sure how more properly I could have read it. Sigh MarnetteD|Talk 16:10, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- OK, I'll try and make this clearer for you. I linked to two edits. The first was a Vote X post, subsequently deleted, in which he took BB to task for deleting the post in Farsi. When I said "he had a point", that's what I was referring to. The second post I linked to was BB's deletion of the Farsi post. If you had bothered to check the edit history, you would have seen that the Farsi post was not made by Vote X. BB deleted it not because it was by Vote X, but because it was in Farsi, and he incorrectly described it as "vandalism". My point is that just because a post on the ref desk is in a language you do not understand, that is not sufficient reason for deleting it.
- To BB: it wasn't in Arabic, it was in Farsi. They are different languages. --Viennese Waltz 16:42, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- OK, can you provide an exact translation of the Farsi question? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:02, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- No, and neither can you. Well, you could have used your favourite translation tool, Google Translate, which you would almost certainly have done if the post had been in French or German. Or, and here's a wild thought, you could have not done anything at all. Either option would have been better than deleting a post as vandalism just because you don't understand it. --Viennese Waltz 17:07, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- So put it back already. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:09, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- You're the one who incorrectly deleted it, you put it back. And you could admit that you were wrong to do so while you're about it. --Viennese Waltz 17:12, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- If you don't care if it gets put back, then I certainly don't. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:15, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- So a new user, who probably doesn't speak any English, asks a good faith question. Instead of politely helping him by running a machine tool translation, or pointing him to the correct place to go to get his question answered, you delete his post as vandalism and don't care what happens. Nice way to treat the newbies, BB. --Viennese Waltz 17:20, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- I remain unconvinced that it belongs. But if you think it does belong, you're free to put it back, and I won't stand in your way. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:22, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Why do you think it might not belong? --Viennese Waltz 17:24, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- How do you suppose VXFC knew about it? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:30, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- That doesn't even begin to make sense. You deleted the post 15 minutes after it went up, and VXFC didn't revert your deletion until ten hours later. He knew about it because he looks at edit histories, like a lot of us do. If you're somehow suggesting VXFC made the Farsi post, you're really clutching at straws. --Viennese Waltz 22:40, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, VFXC is a stalker. In any case, if you think it belongs, then put it back. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:27, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- At this point I'm less concerned with putting it back than with understanding your reasons for deleting it in the first place. VXFC, for all his faults, does not make single-purpose accounts and post questions in Farsi from them. You seem strangely reluctant to explain why you deleted it and why you called it vandalism. Is it because you don't like Muslims? --Viennese Waltz 06:25, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- I conclude that you also don't think it belongs. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 07:07, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- I think it belongs. --Viennese Waltz 07:20, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Then put it back. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 07:23, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Enough of this bullshit. I'm taking this to RD talk. --Viennese Waltz 07:36, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Then put it back. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 07:23, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- I think it belongs. --Viennese Waltz 07:20, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- I conclude that you also don't think it belongs. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 07:07, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- At this point I'm less concerned with putting it back than with understanding your reasons for deleting it in the first place. VXFC, for all his faults, does not make single-purpose accounts and post questions in Farsi from them. You seem strangely reluctant to explain why you deleted it and why you called it vandalism. Is it because you don't like Muslims? --Viennese Waltz 06:25, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, VFXC is a stalker. In any case, if you think it belongs, then put it back. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:27, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- That doesn't even begin to make sense. You deleted the post 15 minutes after it went up, and VXFC didn't revert your deletion until ten hours later. He knew about it because he looks at edit histories, like a lot of us do. If you're somehow suggesting VXFC made the Farsi post, you're really clutching at straws. --Viennese Waltz 22:40, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- How do you suppose VXFC knew about it? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:30, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Why do you think it might not belong? --Viennese Waltz 17:24, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- I remain unconvinced that it belongs. But if you think it does belong, you're free to put it back, and I won't stand in your way. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:22, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- So a new user, who probably doesn't speak any English, asks a good faith question. Instead of politely helping him by running a machine tool translation, or pointing him to the correct place to go to get his question answered, you delete his post as vandalism and don't care what happens. Nice way to treat the newbies, BB. --Viennese Waltz 17:20, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- If you don't care if it gets put back, then I certainly don't. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:15, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- You're the one who incorrectly deleted it, you put it back. And you could admit that you were wrong to do so while you're about it. --Viennese Waltz 17:12, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- So put it back already. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:09, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- No, and neither can you. Well, you could have used your favourite translation tool, Google Translate, which you would almost certainly have done if the post had been in French or German. Or, and here's a wild thought, you could have not done anything at all. Either option would have been better than deleting a post as vandalism just because you don't understand it. --Viennese Waltz 17:07, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- OK, can you provide an exact translation of the Farsi question? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:02, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I did read it VW. It clearly says "I'm no fan of Vote (X) for Change, but he had a point here". No where do you state that the post linked to was made by someone other than Vote X. I'm not sure how more properly I could have read it. Sigh MarnetteD|Talk 16:10, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Can you provide an exact translation of the Arabic question? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:07, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Sigh, I wish you'd read my post properly. I know Vote X's edits very well, and if you'd bothered to check my edit history you would have seen that I've reverted dozens of them myself. I'm asking BB why he reverted this edit, which was not by Vote X. --Viennese Waltz 16:02, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
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